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Truck Hits Sacramento-Bound Amtrak Train; 2 Dead
KCRA ^ | June 24, 2011

Posted on 06/25/2011 12:02:28 AM PDT by red flanker

CHURCHILL COUNTY, Nev. -- At least two people were killed and about 20 others were injured in a fiery collision between a Sacramento-bound Amtrak train and a semitrailer on a rural northern Nevada highway.

Nevada Highway Patrol Trooper Dan Lopez said the truck driver and one person on the train were killed in the 11:25 a.m. Friday accident about 70 miles east of Reno.

He says an unknown number of other people on the train were injured and are being taken by ambulances to the hospital.

(Excerpt) Read more at kcra.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: amtrak; bigrig; californiazephyr; chicago; emeryville; nevada; semitruck; train; trains; truck
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This almost does not seem possible it was an accident.

1 posted on 06/25/2011 12:02:36 AM PDT by red flanker
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To: red flanker

I think it was ABC Radio that sain the truck driver might be at fault. She must not know how big a train is. Everyone who hits a train is at fault.


2 posted on 06/25/2011 12:27:59 AM PDT by Domangart
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To: red flanker

Can someone tell me how many more people would have been killed if this were a high speed train that most liberals want including Zero??Just wondering.


3 posted on 06/25/2011 12:49:11 AM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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To: Domangart

Unless the truck stalled on the tracks, you are almost certainly correct.

It’s not like people don’t know where the trains are going to be.


4 posted on 06/25/2011 1:07:23 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Domangart

Well, it’s not like the engineer can get a train to hop the tracks and aim it at somebody.


5 posted on 06/25/2011 2:19:16 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: All; MamaDearest; Velveeta; Oorang; Rushmore Rocks

UPDATE:

Note: Video included.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/national_world&id=8213118

“Amtrak-truck crash kills 2, injures 20 in Nevada”
Updated at 12:37 AM today
By Leslie Brinkley

SNIPPET: “EMERYVILLE, Calif. (KGO) — A fiery crash happened in rural Nevada after a semi plows into an Amtrak train. At least two people are dead and dozens injured. More than 200 people were on that train. Passengers on-board from Chicago arrived in Sacramento a little over an hour ago. They got off a bus and onto a train, bound for Emeryville.

Emeryville was the final destination for train No. 5, the California Zephyr, but then the unexpected happened Friday morning before that train even got to Reno.

Flames engulfed several passenger cars on the Amtrak train after a big rig truck struck the westbound California Zephyr around 11:30 a.m. at a crossing 60 miles east of Reno. Some passengers were trapped inside as smoke from the burning cars soared into the blue desert sky. There were 204 passengers and 14 crew members were on board the train going from Chicago to Emeryville and the crash happened without warning.”


6 posted on 06/25/2011 2:36:27 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Nitehawk0325

Real high speed trains have no grade crossings.


7 posted on 06/25/2011 2:55:11 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Cindy; All
Lots of pictures here, Reno Gazette-Journal, (link only, Gannett )

Amtrak train crash

From SFGate,

5 die, many hurt as semi hits Bay Area-bound train

8 posted on 06/25/2011 2:57:33 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Thank you for the photos and the article link csvset.
I’m going to take some quotes from the article.


9 posted on 06/25/2011 3:21:13 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: csvset; All

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/06/24/BAJI1K2ENG.DTL&tsp=1

“5 die many hurt as semi hits Bay Area-bound train”

by Jaxon Van Derbeken, Kevin Fagan,Will Kane, Chronicle Staff Writers
Saturday, June 25, 2011

SNIPPET: “Federal transportation safety officials said numerous bodies remained onboard a Chicago-to-Emeryville Amtrak train in the Nevada desert after a gravel-hauling tractor-trailer rig slammed into it east of Reno at midday Friday.

The rig’s driver and a train conductor were among the five confirmed dead as of late Friday. Scores of victims were sent to hospitals with injuries, while as many as 45 remained unaccounted for, federal officials said.”

SNIPPET: “”We’re all wondering how in the world this could happen,” said Kurt Althof, spokesman for Careflight helicopter ambulance, which flew two women with serious injuries to Renown Regional Medical Center in Reno. “There is absolutely nothing on that highway. It’s just desert. How a truck could go into a train like that out there is just bizarre.”

The train was the California Zephyr, which had originated in Chicago. It was due to arrive in Emeryville at 4:10 p.m., with 14 crew members onboard.”


10 posted on 06/25/2011 3:27:39 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: csvset
I knew it!
11 posted on 06/25/2011 3:29:46 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ("We hold it in our power, to begin the world anew")
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To: BigCinBigD

I know! Bizarre.


12 posted on 06/25/2011 3:34:13 AM PDT by csvset
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To: All

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/25/feds-look-into-truck-driver-killed-in-fiery-amtrak-crash/
(AP)

“Feds Look Into Truck Driver Killed in Fiery Amtrak Crash”
Published June 25, 2011
Associated Press

SNIPPET: “Nevada Highway Patrol Trooper Dan Lopez said the gates and warning lights were working. Witnesses told authorities that the truck didn’t seem to attempt to stop at the crossing when it crashed through the gate. The driver was the sole occupant of the semi, which was hauling two empty gravel trailers.”


13 posted on 06/25/2011 3:35:59 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: BigCinBigD
"Wow, it wasn't a terrorist thing, was it?" Bruce Askansas of Sacramento said as he waited for his train in Emeryville. "I've been riding 10 years, and the worst I've seen was we hit a deer."

I had a feeling those radical Amish would be involved!

14 posted on 06/25/2011 3:44:21 AM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: iowamark

Since we don’t have HSR in this country that is an easy statement to make. If you are referring to HSR in other countries then having such limitations certainly puts a kink in the available routes unless road bridges are built for EVERY happenstance of crossing which further escalates the cost. Just how many farmers in fly over country are going to get excited about that possibility?


15 posted on 06/25/2011 4:01:20 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: csvset

Did the truck hit the train, or the horses that were pulling it?


16 posted on 06/25/2011 4:05:01 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ("We hold it in our power, to begin the world anew")
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To: red flanker

What’s the name of the driver? What’s his background? Will the government tell us?


17 posted on 06/25/2011 4:17:02 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: red flanker

I have a gut feeling that this was a deliberate attempt to crash the train, I just woke up and even before I turned on the news or even the puter I knew that some form of terrorist attack was going or had already happened.

And I believe that this story will be whitewashed to death about it NOT being a terrorist attack, with all the scrutiny at truckers with dangerous loads who would look twice at a gravel truck?

And I would keep an eye on any other similar events across the country. Its already been proved that terrorists are hoping for a Jihaad movement to be initiated across America.


18 posted on 06/25/2011 4:26:28 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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To: Nitehawk0325

well - if it was movin faster it wuda been past the accident site.............


19 posted on 06/25/2011 4:30:35 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: red flanker

In Texas, the majority of gravel trucks are driven by illegal aliens from Mexico who frequently try to beat trains at railroad crossings. Sometimes they lose.


20 posted on 06/25/2011 4:48:49 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
In Texas, the majority of gravel trucks are driven by illegal aliens from Mexico who frequently try to beat trains at railroad crossings.

Well if that's the case then the authorities will do everything they can to make sure we don't find out much about him, and the story will fade away quickley. They will also make sure (if he's illegal) that he doesn't get deported.

21 posted on 06/25/2011 5:19:27 AM PDT by floozy22
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To: kittymyrib

Still no ID on the driver. And there’s a new take this morning: Distracted driving was responsible for the accident.


22 posted on 06/25/2011 5:24:30 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Truth29
What’s the name of the driver? What’s his background? Will the government tell us?

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NO! That information, according to Janet Napolitano, will only add to your Islamophobia! Therefore, she isn't going to release anything about the deceased driver.

23 posted on 06/25/2011 5:32:37 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: Nitehawk0325

“Can someone tell me how many more people would have been killed if this were a high speed train that most liberals want including Zero??Just wondering.”

Actually zero, because high-speed tracks have to be separated. Grade crossings are the principal reason why we can’t have high-speed rail in this country.


24 posted on 06/25/2011 6:31:08 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: red flanker
Possible DWI (Driving While Islamic)?

NO cheers, unfortunately.

Someone ought to call the trucking company and get the driver logs to see who was assigned to that truck.

Gravel = heavy = momentum. Would be consistent with wanting to derail a passenger train.

Shall we coin the word "Islaimkaze?" NO cheers, unfortunately.

25 posted on 06/25/2011 7:36:16 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: red flanker
Sounds like DWI to me...Driving While Islamic, that is.

If this was a plain, old suicide, there's a lot more freight trains than passenger trains.

26 posted on 06/25/2011 7:45:49 AM PDT by stboz
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To: grey_whiskers
Gravel = heavy = momentum. Would be consistent with wanting to derail a passenger train.

The driver was the sole occupant of the semi, which was pulling two empty gravel trailers.

Truck Plows Into Amtrak Train in Nevada

27 posted on 06/25/2011 7:59:21 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: mewzilla

Yeah, right. “Distracted.” That’s the second-day rewrite.

The reality is s large, heavy truck purposely crashed through guardrails to hit the center of a moving train. There was no “trying to beat the train before it crossed the tracks.” This driver intentionally aimed for the center passenger cars and that’s what he hit.

People should demand to know the name of the driver.


28 posted on 06/25/2011 8:12:54 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: csvset; All

From the pictures, that looks like it was at the junction of US-95 (coming north across the 40 mile desert) out of Fallon and I-80.

Basically a whole lotta nuthin’ there other than alkaline flats and rabbitbrush.


29 posted on 06/25/2011 8:16:50 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Cindy
Emeryville was the final destination for train No. 5, the California Zephyr,
It's sacrilege to call that thing the California Zephyr.
30 posted on 06/25/2011 8:25:11 AM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: lewislynn

A Zephyr is just a breeze from the west or western wind.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zephyr


31 posted on 06/25/2011 8:38:58 AM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Bipartisanship: The PC Term for Collaboration with the Enemy)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

And still no ID on the driver?


32 posted on 06/25/2011 9:46:32 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: helpfulresearcher
A Zephyr is just a breeze from the west or western wind.
"The California Zephyr" Was a now famous Western Pacific passenger tain with dome cars that traveled from Oakland Ca. to Chicago Il. through the scenic California Feather River Canyon before the Oroville dam was built.

There is even a replica if not a real passenger car on display at Disneyland in Anaheim Ca. with the Zephyr name plate.

To go even farther, my dad was a conducter on the Zephyr in the late 50's...I rode the Zephyr through the Feather River Canyon and the central valley from Keddie Ca. to Stockton Ca. in the late 50's

Do a Google Yahoo search on "California Zephyr"

33 posted on 06/25/2011 10:17:04 AM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: red flanker

It sounds like many more dead most likely. And it seems very possible it wasn’t accidental.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/06/25/MNJI1K2ENG.DTL


34 posted on 06/25/2011 10:24:07 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (2008 was about words; 2012 will be about numbers)
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To: red flanker

hit in the middle of the train, looks like it is a terror attack.


35 posted on 06/25/2011 10:27:07 AM PDT by dila813
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To: red flanker

39°53’44.50”N
118°45’8.54”W


36 posted on 06/25/2011 10:28:23 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Confirmed dead were the truck driver - who is from a small county in eastern Nevada - a train conductor and at least three passengers.

They know who the truck driver was. So where's the rest of the information on him?

37 posted on 06/25/2011 10:29:24 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times
The Feds are "looking into" the truck driver - link
38 posted on 06/25/2011 10:33:14 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times

This photo was taken by a passenger. The truck hit the fourth car - the second passenger car following two engines.

39 posted on 06/25/2011 10:44:46 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times
“So where's the rest of the information on him? “

No idea. The article mentioned it is a wide open stretch of highway. Locals mentioned it would have been very hard to not have seen the train.
That's all I know from reading the sfgate article.

40 posted on 06/25/2011 10:46:13 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (2008 was about words; 2012 will be about numbers)
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To: red flanker
Local news reports say that there were 200' skid marks from the truck. Speculation was that although the guard arms were down the warning lights may have not been working.

The driver did attempt to stop.

41 posted on 06/25/2011 10:58:10 AM PDT by steveo (PETO-VT-IN-MARI-SVB-CRVCE-AVSTRALI-SEPELIAR)
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To: Interesting Times
Here's a good news aggregator that has a compilation of reports.

I see only two possibilities: 1) the driver fell asleep and it was fluke accident, or 2) the collision was intentional. You don't hit the fourth car back if you're just an idiot trying to beat the train.

42 posted on 06/25/2011 10:58:17 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: red flanker

A wee bit more info about the accident:

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/124531824.html


43 posted on 06/25/2011 11:01:47 AM PDT by KittyKares (.)
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To: steveo
Local news reports say that there were 200' skid marks from the truck.

If that's true, he may have fallen asleep at the wheel and woke up too late to stop.

44 posted on 06/25/2011 11:03:33 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: steveo
Local news reports say that there were 200' skid marks from the truck.

Must have had the rig really hooked up if he skidded for 200 feet. Wonder if the trailer brakes were working.

45 posted on 06/25/2011 11:10:20 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: steveo

200’ skid marks. I would have guessed that a tractor at high speed pulling two empty gravel trailers would have jack-knifed before crossing the tracks.


46 posted on 06/25/2011 11:20:22 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: steveo

So the truck driver was braking but wonder if he was timing for the passenger cars. After September 11 attacks, I remember the investigative accounts of terrorists struggling to keep the airliners under control while lining up to hit the Pentagon and Trade Towers.


47 posted on 06/25/2011 11:30:33 AM PDT by red flanker
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To: Interesting Times

Bumping in agreement with your post no. 44.

When the news was breaking, there was no mention of skid marks, but that’s the nature of breaking news.


48 posted on 06/25/2011 12:29:40 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Nitehawk0325

Nitehawk, I don’t consider myself liberal but I’d much prefer high speed rail to messing around being irradiated by TSA goons and dealing with the frustrating airlines, weather, their fragile computers, and their nickel and dime fees for intermediate range trips. As someone else said, high speed rail requires that there be no crossings.

The constant fear and talk about terrorism is just the frame of mind that they want us to be kept perpetually in, afraid of our own shadow and willing to hand over the Constitution and controls to TSA type goons and spend all of our treasury making the Chertoff’s rich, and impossibly covering every contingency.

The driver was probably distracted by texting or something, or he fell asleep. If he was hauling gravel he probably wasn’t one of the Mexican drivers that the big trucking companies now want to saturate America with. We need to know more.


49 posted on 06/25/2011 1:12:20 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: floozy22
They will also make sure (if he's illegal) that he doesn't get deported.

It was pointed out to me by another kind poster that the driver was killed. Graveyard shift is killing me and I'd better get off of it soon. LOL!

50 posted on 06/25/2011 2:45:54 PM PDT by floozy22
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