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DeMint explains early support for 'Romneycare' (BARF ALERT)
CNN - Political Ticker ^ | 2011-06-20 | Peter Hamby

Posted on 06/25/2011 7:02:53 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Washington (CNN) - With the Republican base largely unified in its contempt for President Obama's health care law, Sen. Jim DeMint, an icon of the tea party movement, has been forced to explain his early support for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's health care plan, which was a model for reform on the federal level.

The South Carolinian cited the "innovative" Massachusetts health care plan when he endorsed Romney's 2008 presidential bid, saying the plan leveraged "good conservative ideas" like bringing private insurance companies into the process.

DeMint told CNN over the weekend at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans that he supported Romney's campaign in 2008 because he admired the then-governor's attempt to fix the broken health care system.

"At the time I was very interested in any governor who took that on, because I knew if states didn't, we'd end up with something like 'Obamacare,'" DeMint said.

(snip)

"I have never supported a mandate," DeMint said. "It's just not a good way to make things work in our country, to require somebody to do something. There are different opinions on that but I have always appreciated anyone who had the courage to take it on."

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: demint; demint4deathpanels; flipflop; hijackedbypalinistas; mythromney; obamacare; palinbotshere; romney; romneycare; romneydeathpanels; romneykilledgrandma; romneytruthfile
"There are different opinions on that but I have always appreciated anyone who had the courage to take it on."

Excuse me, Jim? You "have always appreciated" Myth Romney?!!

1 posted on 06/25/2011 7:02:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: upchuck

Very disappointed in this.


2 posted on 06/25/2011 7:04:09 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Its simple Romney was a member of “The Club” and DeMint simply supported a fellow Club member.
Besides, trying something like RomneyCare in Massachusetts is the whole point of having 50 separate, sovereign states. Each state can try something different and other states can adopt what seems to work.


3 posted on 06/25/2011 7:10:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I sense a disturbance in the force. Go Sarah!


4 posted on 06/25/2011 7:12:31 AM PDT by McGruff (Why do they fear her so?)
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To: Little Ray

We need more states doing their own thing. If they fail it serves as a lesson for the rest.


5 posted on 06/25/2011 7:13:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: McGruff
Go Sarah!

Why? In 2010, she fought for the treasonous bastard McCain against a real conservative!

6 posted on 06/25/2011 7:14:46 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Little Ray

good point about the states.
and DeMint doesn’t support it now, unlike Romney who still does.
people wanted DeMint to have known what a disaster it would be, like a psychic?
seems we should be aiming that the people destroying our country now, instead of one of the FEW members of congress who are doing the right thing, about the dept ceiling, etc.


7 posted on 06/25/2011 7:14:59 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385
You're Stuck on Stupid McCain. Get help!
8 posted on 06/25/2011 7:16:54 AM PDT by McGruff (Why do they fear her so?)
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To: rabscuttle385

First, this is CNN. They have cherry-picked his ‘comments’ with the intention to divide conservatives. Second, faced with a choice in 2008 between McQueeg, Huckster and Romney, it was in every way possible a ‘lesser of evils/no-win scenario’ choice. I give Senator DeMint, the strongest conservative voice in the entire US Senate, a pass.


9 posted on 06/25/2011 7:17:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: rabscuttle385
Very disappointed in this.

Senator DeMint is entitled to make the occasional error in judgment. We are all human.

10 posted on 06/25/2011 7:18:23 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I like Sarah but that’s a simple fact that she’ll have trouble escaping.


11 posted on 06/25/2011 7:19:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 506Lake; alrea; Amanda King; americanophile; Babsig; be-baw; Canticle_of_Deborah; Cheap_Hessian; ...

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12 posted on 06/25/2011 7:19:28 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“This message is brought to you by the Communist News Network.” (tm)


13 posted on 06/25/2011 7:20:42 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (PC's Tavern...)
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To: upchuck
Senator DeMint is entitled to make the occasional error in judgment. We are all human.

My rule of thumb.

If I agree with any candidate on every issue all the time, someone is lying. Either the candidate is lying to me, or I'm lying to myself.
14 posted on 06/25/2011 7:21:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: rabscuttle385

GOP, party of losers.


15 posted on 06/25/2011 7:22:47 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: cripplecreek

You and Little Ray are correct IMO - but I’ve been totally flamed on FR for saying that.


16 posted on 06/25/2011 7:24:53 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: upchuck
Senator DeMint, the strongest conservative voice in the entire US Senate, is entitled to make the occasional error in judgment.

Exactly. And you could also make the case that he had no better choice and it wasn't an error as much as it was a no-win scenario. When you're trying to avoid the worst Presidency ever (0bama), one can rightly be convinced that dire decisions/compromises were necessary.

17 posted on 06/25/2011 7:25:06 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: cripplecreek; rabscuttle385

Excellent, common sense rule cc.

Thanks!


18 posted on 06/25/2011 7:25:31 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

>>> Second, faced with a choice in 2008 between McQueeg, Huckster and Romney, it was in every way possible a ‘lesser of evils/no-win scenario’ choice. I give Senator DeMint, the strongest conservative voice in the entire US Senate, a pass. >>>

Don’t go confusing the purists with logic and the facts........what you say makes entirely too much sense.


19 posted on 06/25/2011 7:26:40 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Being flamed can be a badge of honor. Depends by whom the flaming is being done.


20 posted on 06/25/2011 7:27:06 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: McGruff; cripplecreek
You're Stuck on Stupid McCain. Get help!

For what? For my loathing of a known liberal and Obama enabler?

The simple fact of the matter is that Palin made a lot of statements--including stating her pre-2008 admiration for McCain as he attacked and sabotaged Republicans (particularly the conservative ones)--in the 2010 Arizona primary election that were as disturbing as DeMint's support of Romneycare in 2008.

These are all on the record, yet she has done nothing to dispel them, nor has she done anything to dispel her PAC's documented contributions to Hatch, Graham, and other RINOs.

21 posted on 06/25/2011 7:27:33 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: McGruff

3....2.....1.....we have lift off....


22 posted on 06/25/2011 7:27:49 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Little Ray

Bingo. Romneycare didn’t work, but at least it was tried.

That’s the idea of states sovereignty. Let them each try something. If 50 states try 50 different health care programs, there is a good chance one will work well enough to be used on a national level, or else adopted by other states.

If each state is afraid to try a new plan, for fear of criticism if it doesn’t work, then the void will be filled with a national plan, which is what we have now.


23 posted on 06/25/2011 7:30:57 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: Elendur; cripplecreek

I think we have too many collaborators hiding our ranks trying to sink any conservative that MIGHT have a chance of getting ahead in the GOP. They’re being aided by conservatives who won’t accept anything less than “perfect” in a candidate or Congresscritter.


24 posted on 06/25/2011 7:31:58 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"...flamed on FR..."

The little lib pissants are here trying to infest conservative thought with doubts and derision. There will be no perfect conservative candidate, and elections are the first step. After ABO is sworn in and the Dems lose control of both houses (and state legislatures) in 2013 we apply constant pressure to clean up the mess created in the last 60+ years.

Don't pay any attention to the nit-pickers; most of them are infiltraitors.

25 posted on 06/25/2011 7:32:12 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Raising Tax RATES decreses the Tax REVENUES. Spread the word.)
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To: boomop1

Sadly, the GOP is not only the party of losers, but uninformed losers too. They don’t know how to nominate candidates and hence keep losing elections or electing losers! It’s a vicious cycle.


26 posted on 06/25/2011 7:32:45 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: rabscuttle385

If mAssachusetts wants to screw up medical insurance within the borders of its own state, it is within its rights and powers to do so.


27 posted on 06/25/2011 7:33:56 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: C. Edmund Wright

What works in one state may not work in another. Personally I have no use for Romneycare or Obamacare and if Rick Snyder pushes some kind of Snydercare here in Michigan I’ll oppose it here but I’m not going to worry about Massachusetts. They do a lot of crap I disagree with.


28 posted on 06/25/2011 7:35:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: rabscuttle385

How do you figure that?


29 posted on 06/25/2011 7:41:01 AM PDT by proudpapa (Palin-West - 2012)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree, and the brilliance of our Founders is that they understood that a failed project in a single state could be a blessing of a lesson to every other state in the Republic.


30 posted on 06/25/2011 7:41:50 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

As long as what one state does has no effect in another, let them do as they wish. Obviously things like slavery are no nos but you get the point.

Here in Michigan we’re pretty free and easy with guns. A comparison with Illinois is beginning to show a pretty clear advantage from the crime prevention standpoint in Michigan.


31 posted on 06/25/2011 7:49:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: tips up
If 50 states try 50 different health care programs, there is a good chance one will work well enough to be used on a national level, or else adopted by other states.

I can agree to some of that sentence, but not the part about the national level. If "romneycare" happened to "work", the other 56 states would be welcome if they are insane enough to choose, to work similar programs. BUT, it should never be considered on a national level, since it is nationally unconstitutional. Period.

32 posted on 06/25/2011 7:52:05 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: rabscuttle385; McGruff; cripplecreek; Servant of the Cross; upchuck; PieterCasparzen

Why? In 2010, she fought for the treasonous bastard McCain against a real conservative!
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please... she hardly “fought” for him. she did the minimum that loyalty required.
she fought a lot harder and did much more, for Bachmann.
(and we saw the results of that...)

but it’s amazing how Sarah and DeMint are condemned for minor things, while our country is literally being destroyed.

if we don’t stop this, and start supporting ALL our strong conservatives, (and overlooking minor human errors... their not robots!),
then we DESERVE to have our country destroyed !!!!!!!!!

i think Bachmann showed poor judgment in hiring Rollins.
i dislike Perry’s decision about Gardrisil.
but i’ll happily vote for either of them against Obama !!!
or Cain, or Sarah, or ANY true conservative !


33 posted on 06/25/2011 7:57:25 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Little Ray

“Its simple Romney was a member of “The Club” and DeMint simply supported a fellow Club member.”
McCain was also a member of the club and DeMint supported new conservative candidates against establishment members of “the club” last election.
Your second sentence is spot on.


34 posted on 06/25/2011 8:02:07 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Elendur

I was pleasantly surprised by Rick Santorum yesterday on Glenn Beck’s show. He’s one of the least likely people I would vote for but he gave some good answers (and a few bad ones)

Beck asked him what he thinks the job of the fed should be and Santorum said something along the lines of “Keeping the economy going”. Glenn disagreed and suggested that their job should be to pack up and get out. LOL


35 posted on 06/25/2011 8:02:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Elendur; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; BufordP; roamer_1; indylindy; Kimberly GG; ...
please... she hardly “fought” for him. she did the minimum that loyalty required.

Multiple television appearances, including one on Fox News and one that was broadcast over the Internet.

An op-ed in The Arizona Republic in which she praised him for attacking conservative Republicans long before the 2008 election cycle.

Multiple appearances at fundraisers with McCain supporters.

Radio ads that were broadcast enough to drown out J.D.

Letting McCain use the leftover 2008 election cash to attack J.D.

That's hardly "the minimum." If anything, it's far more than Brown (or Romney himself!) did for McCain in the 2010 election cycle, and both of those two were called in to shill for McCain too.

36 posted on 06/25/2011 8:02:42 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Your constant tirade against Palin is beyond reason. I hope you step in it like pissant did.


37 posted on 06/25/2011 8:08:03 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman
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To: Thom Pain
Don't pay any attention to the nit-pickers; most of them are infiltraitors.

Infiltraitors (like that spelling by the way), some of which are well ingrained here on FR. Old vet freepers; which is sort of a shock.

38 posted on 06/25/2011 8:12:11 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman
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To: C210N

Medicare is already a national program though. Unless Medicare monies block granted to states (good idea but not likely to happen) it remains a federal program.

Agree that health care should be federal based on the Constitution, but it already is and the odds of that changing are between slim and none.


39 posted on 06/25/2011 8:14:18 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: Elendur

Well put and spot on.


40 posted on 06/25/2011 8:14:45 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m not seeking ideological purity from the GOP. But it is obvious that many of the Democrats that have changed parties in the last few years, did not change their values.

Also, since many GOP establishment types support programs and policies that are obviously unconstitutional and direct attacks on liberty, I suspect either they stand to profit from said programs, or just crave more power over their fellow citizens. Only a socialist, liberal or a politician that has been in DC too long could look at Obamacare or Romneycare and think it is a positive for America.

I would think at the very least, the GOP could unite over smaller government, lower taxes and a strong defense. Obamacare does not equal smaller government. Nor does cap and trade. Having a $14 Trillion debt and growing probably will not lead to lower taxes. Fighting wars with no national interest and no specific objective weakens the military. And yet there are GOP folks that are on those bandwagons.

Obama has pushed the bar so far left that the Conservative center looks radical and Obama-lites appear moderate. In a saner world, would T-Paw, Huntsman, Romney or any other of the GOP crumbs that have been pushed on us be serious GOP contenders?


41 posted on 06/25/2011 8:31:03 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: tips up

I think it is instructive to note that Barky said they used Romneycare as the model for Obamacare even after it was clear to evrybody that it did not work.


42 posted on 06/25/2011 8:44:35 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Elendur
Don’t explain: your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe you anyway.
43 posted on 06/25/2011 8:48:45 AM PDT by McGruff (Why do they fear her so?)
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To: Outlaw Woman

“Your constant tirade against Palin is beyond reason. I hope you step in it like pissant did.”

He stepped on his cr*nk a long time ago whether the boss boots him out or not. Remember Clarabelle from Howdy Doody?

His McCain
on the brain
may drive
him insane
per Capt. Queeg from the McCain(e) Mutiny


44 posted on 06/25/2011 8:51:04 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: rabscuttle385

45 posted on 06/25/2011 9:28:59 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m disappointed that he didn’t frame his rebuttal in the context of the Tenth Amendment. Every state should be free to make or break their civil societies as they see fit.

That said, I have yet to see DeMint himself back away from the core principles of conservatism in either word or deed.


46 posted on 06/25/2011 12:06:43 PM PDT by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: rabscuttle385
Bumping for those who may have forgotten.
47 posted on 10/17/2011 7:46:58 AM PDT by McGruff (www.conservativepartyusa.com - Check it out)
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