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Our Sharia-Compliant Afghan War
National Review ^ | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 06/25/2011 10:00:32 AM PDT by ventanax5

In a better time, when the burdens of war were shared by an engaged nation and not shouldered exclusively by military families making up less than 1 percent of the population, the high farce that is the Afghanistan mission would have been obvious before President Obama uttered one word on Wednesday night. All you’d need to know is the story that came to light the day before.

Turns out that the U.S. government has embraced a core tenet of sharia — that archaic corpus of Islamic law that Mitt Romney recently assured us would never gain traction in America. Patrick Poole reported at Pajamas Media on Tuesday that the secretary of the army has just granted “conscientious objector” status to Pfc. Nasser Abdo, a Muslim American soldier who refused to deploy to Afghanistan. Heeding the admonitions of CAIR and other Muslim Brotherhood operatives, the Pentagon accepts the claim that sharia forbids Muslims from assisting infidels in a war against Muslim forces in an Islamic land.

News Flash One: The war in Afghanistan, an Islamic land, is a war waged by infidels (that would be us) against Muslim forces — the Taliban, al-Qaeda, the Haqqani network, etc.

News Flash Two: The operating theory of the American counterinsurgency (COIN) strategy in Afghanistan is that the hearts and minds of the population of this tribal sharia society will side with us non-Muslims in a war against their fellow Muslims, most of whom are also their fellow Afghans.

Which is to say, our strategy is insane.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coin; islam; law; sharia; wot

1 posted on 06/25/2011 10:00:33 AM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

Way past time to get the hell out of that cesspool!


2 posted on 06/25/2011 10:06:59 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ventanax5

Just what aabout “Stop our war on Libya does Congress not understand? Bring our troops and equipment home, then defund it. No more of this loser halfway stuff!


3 posted on 06/25/2011 10:07:04 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: ventanax5

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”


4 posted on 06/25/2011 10:10:16 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Herman Cain is the man in 2012)
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To: Recon Dad

That is a excellent quote. So True!

We need to get “ludircous” to make a rap song with those words as the lyrics.


5 posted on 06/25/2011 10:17:28 AM PDT by himno hero ("Armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"... Barrack Obama's vision)
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To: ventanax5
In a nut-shell, Political Correctness has gone wild in Afghanistan thanks to silly and dangerous Rules of Engagement put in place by McCain and others making General Petraeus etc. and Gates follow these Sunday School Picnic Rules that are our obligation to the enemy not theirs to us. Killing American Soldiers Was Never Easier.
6 posted on 06/25/2011 10:20:45 AM PDT by yoe
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To: ventanax5
And because of political correctness, we train yet another future terrorist in our military ways. Being Muslim should be the number 1 disqualifier in military and government service.
7 posted on 06/25/2011 10:47:30 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: ventanax5

“shouldered exclusively by military families making up less than 1 percent of the population,”

Makes me think maybe we should go back to a draft to ensure that the population has to be behind any war we execute.


8 posted on 06/25/2011 10:50:49 AM PDT by garjog
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To: garjog

that’s about the ONLY good reason for the draft i’ve heard. interesting...

of course, if we simply had stuck to the constitution, it wouldn’t have come to this... we’d never have a war, that didn’t have the consent of the people.


9 posted on 06/25/2011 10:55:37 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: ventanax5

“If men make war in slavish obedience to rules, they will fail.”

-US Grant


10 posted on 06/25/2011 10:57:55 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Recon Dad
"Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince."

Bares repeating!

11 posted on 06/25/2011 10:59:16 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Dogbert41; yoe; Paperdoll

“Being Muslim should be the number 1 disqualifier in military and government service. “
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Amen !!!

and what about the “Establishment Clause”?
we spend billions on “nation building” countries like Iraq and Afghanistan,
that specifically have sharia law IN their constitution.

we ARE actively helping and paying to establish a religion, in other countries,

( while FORBIDDING efforts to even introduce Christianity.)

even our troops in Afghanistan, are DELIBERATLELY forbidden to give Bibles to Afghans, even as personal gifts.”

...yet our Army repairs and builds masjids, and our taxes PURCHASE Qurans, prayer rugs, etc.

ISN’T THIS a violation of the establishment clause, that the libs constantly throw at Christians ?


12 posted on 06/25/2011 11:02:35 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Elendur

I agree! No Muslims in the armed forces or government.

No nation building! No matter what we do to help these people, they will not change.

The Communist shadow government will continue to erase the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in America if we allow them to. (Wake up, people!) Fortunately the missionaries are doing a fantastic job of promoting Jesus Christ in foreign countries. Our pastors in America need to preach more fire and brimstone!

May I add: No more Political Correctness? Good is still good. Evil is still evil!


13 posted on 06/25/2011 11:36:50 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: ventanax5
the Pentagon accepts the claim that sharia forbids Muslims from assisting infidels in a war against Muslim forces in an Islamic land

The politicially correct boobs in the upper ranks at the Pentagon have long done everything they can to bring Muslims into the military. They should rethink that policy. The excuse is that Muslims will be very helpful reaching out to the hearts and minds of people in Muslim countries where we are fighting.

I don't know if that ever actually works, but there have been several notorious cases where Muslim troops turned on their fellow soldiers and killed them--as well as taking government money and educational privileges and then pleading for conscientious objector status. It's not as if they didn't know who they would probably be fighting.

The Fort Hood shootings are a perfect illustration. The perp was an absolutely lousy doctor, who got a hugely expensive free education, told everyone that he wanted to do jihad against his fellows, and then did so. If not for the affirmative action policy shielding Muslims, he would have been given a bad conduct discharge, or would never have been admitted in the first place.

This is a very dangerous policy. I don't know if all Muslims should be barred from the military, but they certainly should not be treated as affirmative action candidates.

14 posted on 06/25/2011 11:50:44 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero; ventanax5
the Pentagon accepts the claim that sharia forbids Muslims from assisting infidels in a war against Muslim forces in an Islamic land

Yet, the best way to have fought this particular war would've been to tell the tribes initially allied with us that our objective was to exterminate the Talibani and a pair of their ears would be worth a $20 bounty.

Whereupon, the Talibani -- and every male who looked or spoke like one -- would've been exterminated inside a year or two.

Whereupon, we would depart -- leaving the Afghanis to whatever arrangement they wished, while knowing that if they ever hosted another group that pissed off the USA, we would return to exterminate them!.

Would've saved a lot of time, a lot of blood...and a lot of money.

It's a matter of will.

15 posted on 06/25/2011 12:14:40 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ventanax5
News Flash Two: The operating theory of the American counterinsurgency (COIN) strategy in Afghanistan is that the hearts and minds of the population of this tribal sharia society will side with us non-Muslims in a war against their fellow Muslims, most of whom are also their fellow Afghans.

I find your statement very telling, and the simplicity really sums up the situation quite well.

Personally, I wouldn't let any of these jihadists in our armed forces; many will cry "unfair", but they can serve and pick who and when they will fight?

Very bad idea. Another reason is that we should not be teaching military tactics to a group of people who are literally sworn enemies of the United States. One may say 'Disunited States'. Things are going from bad to worse very quickly.

16 posted on 06/25/2011 12:35:21 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: ventanax5
Heeding the admonitions of CAIR and other Muslim Brotherhood operatives, the Pentagon accepts the claim that sharia forbids Muslims from assisting infidels in a war against Muslim forces in an Islamic land.

With how many loopholes for when it's convenient for the rulers of the land? (Logical consistency was never Mad Mo's strong suit.) If you're going to try to get help from seriously religious Muslims you're probably going to have to invoke some Islamic principle as a reason. Or else threaten their entire world view with something they did not believe possible.

17 posted on 06/25/2011 12:57:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: okie01

Just so. The price of political correctness is extremely high.


18 posted on 06/25/2011 1:26:56 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Too late. The cesspool now *is* the US administration.


19 posted on 06/25/2011 3:52:59 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: ventanax5

Pull out of there and depopulate the entire place with VX. Leave nothing alive.

Anything less is a joke.


20 posted on 06/25/2011 4:03:09 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Elendur

I agree!


21 posted on 06/26/2011 6:19:59 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Tolsti2

“Pull out of there and depopulate the entire place with VX. Leave nothing alive.

Anything less is a joke.”

And our guys will not have died in vain.


22 posted on 06/26/2011 6:23:08 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Cicero

How about this, Cicero, you’ve seen this news?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2755442/posts?page=8

AWOL Soldier Arrested in What Police Say Was New Fort Hood Terror Plot
Fox News ^ | Published July 28, 2011 | Mike Levine & Jennifer Griffin

Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 5:54:42 PM by little jeremiah

AWOL Soldier Arrested in What Police Say Was New Fort Hood Terror Plot

An Army private has been arrested in connection with an alleged plot to attack Fort Hood soldiers that authorities suggest was close to being carried out. The arrest, first reported by Fox News, comes nearly two years after a deadly shooting rampage at the base.

Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo, an AWOL soldier from Fort Campbell in Kentucky, was arrested by the Killeen, Texas, Police Department near Fort Hood and remains in custody at the Killeen jail.

Abdo, 21, was found with weapons, explosives and jihadist materials at the time of his arrest, a senior Army source confirms to Fox News. He was arrested at around 2 p.m. Wednesday after someone called authorities to report a suspicious individual.

Eric Vasys, a spokesman with the FBI’s San Antonio Office, said authorities found firearms and bomb making components inside Abdo’s motel room.

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Abdo went AWOL on July 4. On the eve of his first deployment to Afghanistan — after only one year in the Army — Abdo applied for conscientious objector status as a Muslim. It was denied by his superiors at Fort Campbell but later overturned by the Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Army review board.

Another source told Fox News that two other U.S. soldiers have been questioned as part of the investigation.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com .


23 posted on 07/28/2011 8:18:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, indeed. And note that tidbit: “It was denied by his superiors at Fort Campbell but later overturned by the Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Army review board.”


24 posted on 07/28/2011 8:39:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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