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Rick Perry: A Texan’s ‘exceptionalism’
Washington Post ^ | June 24, 2011 | George Will

Posted on 06/25/2011 12:11:49 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Agree.

One of the very few Dems I strongly admired was a Texas representative from North of Dallas, Congressman Ralph Hall of Rockwall, TX. He had a 100% conservative rating, the most conservative one in the House, for years and years. Eventually he changed to a Republican. To this day he represents that district, and he’s way into his eighties.

Zell Miller simply told people he was too old to change his party. He wanted nothing but to retire and hold onto the past represented by his parents and grandparents and great grandparents. So he left the political arena. But had he remained in it, he knew that he couldn’t stay a Democrat in today’s Democrat party.

Zell is an American Patriot.


51 posted on 06/25/2011 1:33:44 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: arrogantsob

So your saying the TSA is acting constitutionally when they put their hands inside the panties of a 6 year old girl that just wants to travel to Disney World?

Your view is its unconstitutional for the bill to state any person, regardless of govt employment status, who does so, without probable cause that the person being search has committed a crime, is guilty of sexual assault.


52 posted on 06/25/2011 1:34:23 PM PDT by RC51
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To: patriot08

“Apparently they don’t consider these things an issue.”

Maybe they didn’t think these things were an issue, but I do.

Governor Gardasil told me a lot about his view of the Little People and his power over them when he signed the vaccine order. His supporters can try to say that that wasn’t a “mandatory order” until they are blue in the face.

The fact is it showed his We Know Best What Is Good for You attitude, and took the cash. There was some kind of payout from Merck, wasn’t there?

I am sick of the GOP fielding candidates we have to hold our noses to vote for.

I want SARAH!


53 posted on 06/25/2011 1:45:43 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: trumandogz

In 1988...

Algore became a radical leftist after that. He was even pro-life back then. His fellow Dems thought he was too Southern in his politics.

Rick Perry came from a family that had always, always, always been Democrats. I am a born and raised Texan and in this state for much of my young life I barely knew Republicans existed or what they were. I heard that Ike was one, but that was about it. I’m talking Texas. Democrats in Texas might be liberal, but they were a few leftist ideologues...the vast, vast majority of Dems were as conservative as could be.

You need to stop living in the past. Algore changed mightily, and Rick Perry chose the GOP over his family’s history. It took awhile, but it happened.

Time marches on.


54 posted on 06/25/2011 1:46:24 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Diogenesis

bttt your post!


55 posted on 06/25/2011 1:48:39 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: trumandogz

Hmm.. I seem to recall Palin endorsed McCain for the Senate in 2010. Is he a conservative?


56 posted on 06/25/2011 1:55:34 PM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: humblegunner

I dont know how many times this has been discussed about Palin endorsing Perry and why. One more time. Palin was trying to win, not lose, so just like Mcain because many in Texas cant stand Rino Rick, she was trying to drag him across the finish line. Perry was the lesser of the evils, if not, he would not be govenor of Texas today.


57 posted on 06/25/2011 1:59:14 PM PDT by allsouthern
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What’s the point of defending Perry....Perry’s exceptional record speaks for itself...any numskull who can’t grasp more private sector jobs created in Texas than any other state...you’ve got people saying it was Texans not Perry that did that....I say baloney...Perry created an environment for this to happen...Perry has fought for Texas especially since that illegal alien started to occupy the WH....I haven’t seen many other governors fighting the Feds like Texas and Perry....


58 posted on 06/25/2011 2:00:43 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: P-Marlowe

Rudy is a conservative? On FR? Give me a break. Frankly I can’t tell the difference twixt him and Myth, except Rudy looks better in a dress and pearls.

Only real conservative don’t get a break around here.

ROTFLMAO!


59 posted on 06/25/2011 2:01:44 PM PDT by dforest
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To: arrogantsob
Unconstitutional within the "Sumpremacy Clause"?

Where in the Constitution does it give authority for the Congress to establish the TSA to begin with? Congress created this monster, And the U.S. Congress can and should disband or bridle this monster.

60 posted on 06/25/2011 2:08:43 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: PastorBooks

I like Sarah the best but I could happily vote for Perry also. The vaccine order had a parental opt out. I was in the Army and had to get a lot of vaccinations that I thought were stupid or downright unsafe (Anthrax),so maybe I have more of a problem than most people getting riled up about any vaccination order that includes an opt out. The TTC was not a big deal to me either, the plain truth is that I-35 sucks and is inadequate for the traffic it handles. I remember thinking on more than one of the times when I was stuck in a traffic jam on 35 that it would be nice to have a main north-south road in Texas that was not closed for hours every time there is a big accident on it. He could have gone about it differently, but any way he did it, somebody would have bitched. I mean the options are limited. You can have a private company do it and charge a toll to pay for it or you can have the state do it and raise taxes to pay for it. Either way, something will eventually need to be done about I-35, the solution will likely use imminent domain to some extent and people will surely complain about how it is done. The governor who does finally come up with a solution will undoubtedly be called a RINO for years to come over it.


61 posted on 06/25/2011 2:13:06 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: P-Marlowe
We all make mistakes and hopefully we learn from them. Compared to Romney, Guiliani IS a Conservative.

It wasn't a mistake though, Perry campaigned for Giuilani while Giuliani's law firm was representing a foreign company working with Perry's office to try and keep Perry's TTC alive. Perry's endorsement of Giuliani wasn't some kind of random thing.

I think this idea that it was random or an accident must have come from people who live outside of Texas, because people from Texas knew Giuliani and his law firm were working with Perry on the TTC before 2008 and not long after when it was finally killed.
62 posted on 06/25/2011 2:41:02 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: humblegunner
And Perry was endorsed by Palin.

Sort that one out.


Well Palin endorsed McCain and when Guiliani's campaign fell apart, Perry endorsed McCain.

That must mean that McCain is incredibly conservative if he was getting endorsed by both Palin and Perry.
63 posted on 06/25/2011 2:45:46 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: allsouthern
I dont know how many times this has been discussed about Palin endorsing Perry and why.

I understand. It seems there are many things you do not know.

Palin was trying to win, not lose

She wanted to win the Texas Governor's election? Whoa.

many in Texas cant stand Rino Rick, she was trying to drag him across the finish line

She helped a candidate whom THE PEOPLE dislike? Really?

The Short Bus dropped you off at the wrong station.

Tardville, 15 miles. Get walking.

64 posted on 06/25/2011 2:51:52 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: af_vet_rr
Perry endorsed McCain.

Over Obama?! How dare he!

65 posted on 06/25/2011 2:53:56 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: patriot08
All (including Democrat opponents) have called him a staunch Conservative, and not one of the dozens issuing opinions has mentioned the vaccine or TTC.
Apparently they don’t consider these things an issue.

And that right there is a case of Sherlock Holmes's dog that didn't bark.

Rattlesnakes don't always rattle, either -- sometimes they just strike.

The SPP/NASCO Supercorridor ("Trans-Texas Corridor") is a major NWO project. U.S. Senators have lied about its existence, and it's hard to find references to the U.S. congressional committee(s) that oversee its budgets, and the bipartisan co-chairmen that run it. It is a major case of, "this is too important to let the Little People know about, so they can't spoil it! WE WANT OUR MONEY, WE WANT OUR PROJECT," and blah, blah, blah -- "all your bases are belong to us" etc., from international money and faceless Lords Ordainers, commanding our servants to serve them ahead of us.

That Perry would not only accede to, but actually foment in office himself, such a superordinating piece of garbage makes him palpably the People's Unservant, and a servant of the secret power behind the so-called New World Order.

People like that shouldn't be allowed even to linger on the sidewalk near the White House, much less stand for election to the office.

66 posted on 06/25/2011 3:05:29 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

No more RINOs or “moderates” for me.

&&&
Same here. And if RINO Will is for him, you know Perry’s not a good choice.


67 posted on 06/25/2011 3:05:29 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I love Sarah, but even she makes mistakes, e.g., endorsing McCain. I am not a “Perry hater”, I just don’t think he is sincere. Seems like a nice fellow, but I just get the impression he is saying what he needs to say to get elected.


68 posted on 06/25/2011 3:07:52 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: humblegunner
Over Obama?! How dare he!

Giuliani dropped out in January of 2008 and Perry then endorsed McCain over the other Republicans, not over Obama. Hillary and Edwards were still in it when Perry endorsed McCain and nobody knew who the Democratic nominee would be for another five months or so.

If you are making a joke about Perry being a former Democrat or about Perry picking Giuliani over Huckabee, Duncan Hunter, Fred Thompson, Romney, etc. and then picking McCain when Giuliani fell apart, then you'll have to excuse me, I've been working outside off and on all day and it's hot.

While there weren't any actual conservatives that Perry could have chosen from the Republican field, he certainly chose the most liberal Republican. Of course, Perry didn't pick Giuliani for his positions, he picked him because Giuliani was scratching Perry's back and wanted him to scratch his in return.
69 posted on 06/25/2011 3:10:20 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
While there weren't any actual conservatives that Perry could have chosen from the Republican field, he certainly chose the most liberal Republican.

He also chose the only one nominated.

Choosing someone not in the running would have been better?

Or should he have backed Obama?

70 posted on 06/25/2011 3:16:30 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: lentulusgracchus

Sarah cannot win.
(Sadly. I love her too)


71 posted on 06/25/2011 3:20:38 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: humblegunner

He also chose the only one nominated.

Choosing someone not in the running would have been better?


At the time Perry endorsed McCain, McCain had not secured the nomination.
72 posted on 06/25/2011 3:22:05 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: txrangerette
In 1988... Algore became a radical leftist after that

Gore voted radical left in '85 thru '88 too.

73 posted on 06/25/2011 3:22:16 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Elendur
i am VERY concerned about illegal immigration. it’s a BIG issue to me. but, Perry is still a million times better than Romney!

Whoever occupies the White House, if he does not address the immigration issue forthrightly and stop the "anchor baby" phenomenon and all the rest of it, will simply be turning the White House over to leftist Democrats for the next four generations.

Are you prepared to be discriminated against because you don't speak Spanish? It will happen, if you do not use your "gateway" (thus George Will) to exclude candidates who will not defend our interest on this point.

Voting for Perry for the GOP nomination is giving your country to people who don't, and never will, care about your interest: millionaire employers and penniless fence-jumpers who want to work for the multimillionaires who don't want you. And now, this isn't about landscaping jobs -- this is about welding jobs and L-1 and H-1B jobs, too.

This is about the whole ball of wax, the globalist agenda of starving the American middle class into submission by playing off whole populations against one another -- playing God, just like the man in the big white house once did with red-necks and ex-slaves.

In 2007, former Fed governor (and Democrat) Alan Blinder came back from the Davos conference in Switzerland and warned us about how a series, a procession, of U.S. CEO's got up in front of all the foreign bankers and moneyrunners and promised up and down that they had Seen the Light, that their programs going forward were all about the same thing, to offshore and outsource as much of their budgets as possible, to squeeze out American employees from American jobs, to make the inconvenient American middle class unemployed and unemployable, to make our payscales and buying power Go Away, to make the First World cease to exist, to make the whole world the Third World -- cheap, cheap people serving a tiny, Third World minority of the ultrarich and ultrapowerful. You see the fulfilment of those promises happening right now.

And you're going to vote for the Davos candidate, the Bilderberg candidate? That's what you'll be doing if you vote for Rick Perry.

74 posted on 06/25/2011 3:26:49 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: af_vet_rr
At the time Perry endorsed McCain, McCain had not secured the nomination.

So he predicted the only good option ahead of time.

Or should he have endorsed Obama?

75 posted on 06/25/2011 3:29:52 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: PastorBooks
I am sick of the GOP fielding candidates we have to hold our noses to vote for.
I want SARAH!

Amen, Pastor. Sarah bump!

76 posted on 06/25/2011 3:30:26 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: humblegunner
Here's an idea, maybe Perry should never have endorsed the most liberal Republican in the primaries to begin with! Oh wait, that was not going to happen, because that liberal Republican was trying to help Perry get his TTC shoved down our throats!

You can play word games all you want, but Perry still supported a pro-abortion, pro-gun control, and pro-gay marriage candidate for President in 2008, and he did so because that candidate was trying to help Perry get his corridor built, and nothing you can say will take away from that.
77 posted on 06/25/2011 3:38:29 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Governor GoodHair” and “Pecos Perry” some in Texas call him. I like him; a lot of people in Texas like him.

Recently he was jogging with his dog. Don't know if it is an Urban Myth but a coyote came charging at him and his dog. He shot the coyote dead!

I hope this is true anyway!

He seems to be handling Texas business pretty well and looks darn good in a pair of jeans! Still some wonder why he hasn't fixed the Texas/Mexico Border unless he is showing with his actions that this just might be a gauntlet to federal government to handle Defense. I think this is possible but kind of ch#cken sh#it. Too many police have died in Texas and often it is an illegal who perpetuate multiple crimes.

78 posted on 06/25/2011 3:40:27 PM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Somebody should ask George if he trusts Perry with nuclear weapons.


79 posted on 06/25/2011 3:40:52 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Bigg Red; Emperor Palpatine
Same here. And if RINO Will is for him, you know Perry’s not a good choice.

Nice fat clue there -- Perry is definitely the candidate of the RiNO's now. Their Judas horse to lead the Tea Party people into the RiNO corral and beat Sarah.

Good luck with that, when people get a look at the Real Deal conservative who walks her talk.

80 posted on 06/25/2011 3:40:59 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Here's an idea, maybe Perry should never have endorsed the most liberal Republican in the primaries to begin with!

Who should he have backed against Obama? Who else was running?
There were only two choices. He chose against Obama.

You can play word games all you want, but Perry still supported a pro-abortion, pro-gun control, and pro-gay marriage candidate for President in 2008

Blah blah blah. There were two choices: Obama & McCain. He chose McCain.
Who should he have endorsed?

nothing you can say will take away from that

Cool, you're mind is made up. You can shut up now.

81 posted on 06/25/2011 3:44:50 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
So he predicted the only good option ahead of time.

Remember, humby, you endorse the conservative (Fred, Duncan Hunter, who ya got) in the primary, and hold your nose in the general and vote for the compromise.

Perry endorsed the compromise right out of the chute.

How'd that work out for us in 2008?

This time, you endorse the compromise, and you'll be explaining to us in October why Mittens is our onnnnlllyyyyy choice!

We've got more real conservative choices this time than in 2007, so no excuses this time. No RiNO's!!

82 posted on 06/25/2011 3:48:47 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: hummingbird
Still some wonder why he hasn't fixed the Texas/Mexico Border unless he is showing with his actions that this just might be a gauntlet to federal government to handle Defense.

He said that he will not support Arizona style illegal immigration legislation, so that's not going to happen. My guess is either the GOP (state or national) told him not to support it, or his big donors (home builders) told him not to support it. I can think of no other reason why he would publicly state that he wouldn't support such legislation.

He did spend millions of taxpayer dollars on webcams to guard the border. I guess that's a change from the days when he shared visions of open borders with the Mexican President.
83 posted on 06/25/2011 3:49:21 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Sarah Palin likes him alot. He is not a rino.
He is WAY BETTER THAN MITT.


84 posted on 06/25/2011 3:49:28 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: patriot08
Sarah cannot win.

Yes, she can ..... like Ronnie won, in the teeth of media hatebots who told us what a cowboy he was -- what?! your going to give him, that washed-up B-actor, the launch codes? -- Remember?

Ronnie won in a landslide. An earthquake.

Ronald Reagan showed us how to make the liberal flying monkeys shut up. He ran, and he not only won, he crushed them like cockroaches.

Run, Sarah, run!

85 posted on 06/25/2011 3:55:09 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: txrangerette

Good Post!


86 posted on 06/25/2011 3:58:34 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: patriot08
Would like to see Palin - she's great but a possible Republican POTUS or VPOTUS might make some think she is voodoo or something and could cause her any future Federal elections.

Would like to see her in a good, strong Cabinet position...like Secretary of Interior, etc.

No more Tsars, for Heaven's sake - whoever wins.

87 posted on 06/25/2011 4:02:02 PM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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To: patriot08
Would like to see Palin - she's great but a possible Republican POTUS or VPOTUS might make some think she is voodoo or something and could cause her any future Federal elections.

Would like to see her in a good, strong Cabinet position...like Secretary of Interior, etc.

No more Tsars, for Heaven's sake - whoever wins.

88 posted on 06/25/2011 4:03:03 PM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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To: humblegunner
There were two choices: Obama & McCain.

So if there were only two choices from 2007, then why do you think Perry picked Giuliani?
89 posted on 06/25/2011 4:05:27 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: lentulusgracchus
(Fred, Duncan Hunter, who ya got)

FAIL committee, no chance, bet on a sick dog to win a race.

Perry endorsed the compromise right out of the chute.

Which turned out to be the only option to STOP OBAMA. Stopping Obama sucks, right?

you'll be explaining to us in October why Mittens is our onnnnlllyyyyy choice!

I don't think so. I'm an anti-Mormon bigot who makes fun of magic underpants.

We've got more real conservative choices this time than in 2007, so no excuses this time.

Let's see who runs and then we'll talk.

90 posted on 06/25/2011 4:14:56 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: af_vet_rr
On Borders, Bush wasn't any better. This baffled me since Texas was his home.

I liked Bush but couldn't figure out a closing of the border for him either.

Your thought on Texas builders makes sense.

As with Perry, Bush looks pretty darn good in a pair of jeans, too! Maybe when you are elected governor of Texas that's the dress code.

91 posted on 06/25/2011 4:18:24 PM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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To: humblegunner
Let's see who runs and then we'll talk.

Good enough.

92 posted on 06/25/2011 4:23:27 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: hummingbird
On Borders, Bush wasn't any better. This baffled me since Texas was his home.

But Yale was his alma mater.

It's something the NWO Lords Ordainers want, and it doesn't help that Poppy is an archdeacon and great seneschal of the NWO.

93 posted on 06/25/2011 4:26:14 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: hummingbird
On Borders, Bush wasn't any better. This baffled me since Texas was his home.

I liked Bush but couldn't figure out a closing of the border for him either.


Well Bush was raised on the East Coast for the most part - prep schools and Harvard and Yale, and you can look at his dad for an international influence as well.

I agree though, after 9/11, the border should have been shut down. I don't care if Perry was preaching the virtues of open borders the month prior to 9/11, 9/11 should have been a wake up call to everybody.

As for Perry and his stance on the borders, like I said, I think either the GOP (state or national) or his donors told him to make a public statement rejecting Arizona-style illegal immigration legislation, or answer questions about it. His views on the world seem to be shaped for purely business/donor reasons, whereas the Bushes seemed to have other reasons. I'm not saying one is better than the other.

If 9/11 had not happened, and Perry kept on preaching the virtues of open borders, eventually the drug violence would have caused him to stop that nonsense anyways.
94 posted on 06/25/2011 4:43:32 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: xzins

Gov. Palin


95 posted on 06/25/2011 5:11:08 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Oh PLEASE!!! Santorum endorsed Arlen!


96 posted on 06/25/2011 6:07:06 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: deport
Yeah -- and, IIRC, you were one of the few FR champions of the TTC.

I fought Rick&Rick all the way on that one -- and the TX legislaure finally followed the demands of the people of Texas by killing that abortion.

Texas needs to rid itself of RinoRick -- but not by shipping him off to the White Hut!

97 posted on 06/25/2011 6:26:12 PM PDT by TXnMA (There is no Constitutional right to NOT be offended.)
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To: TXnMA

We need to share him with the other 56 states and let us get another gov. Yes I support improvement to our transportation systems in Texas. The roadways are behind schedule to get up with the demand that is being placed upon them. Fortunately they are moving something along but at a snails pace.


98 posted on 06/25/2011 7:10:12 PM PDT by deport
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To: af_vet_rr

So he was raised by schools on the east coast?

Uh. no.

Moved to Odessa at age eighteen months, a baby. Grew up in Midland attending Midland public elementary and junior high schools. Played little league ball, was a cub scout.

Father was in the oil biz and moved the family to Houston, still in TX, when W was about to enter high school. I don’t know about you, but by the time I was about to enter high school there ain’t nobody on the face of the earth that could’ve changed me from what my family and my neighborhood instilled in me to be.

W proved that out, for although following family tradition to Andover prep and Yale, he returned to Texas, at first living in Houston. Joined the Texas Air National Guard. Moved back to Midland and went into the oil biz himself, later selling the biz and buying into the Texas Rangers, thereupon moving his family to Dallas, which now included a Midland girl, Laura, and their two daughters. While in Midland he ran for Congress from that district, driving all over the forsaken West Texas landscape to campaign, but alas, lost to a Dem named Kent Hance (who used the big myth that W was an Easterner to defeat him and laughs about it to this day).

From his position with the Rangers he ran and won against Ann Richards for governor of TX. He bought a ranch in a very rural area west of Waco which he dearly loves and goes to often. His Presidential Library is at SMU in Dallas where they have primary residence since leaving the WH.

Those who knew him while at Andover and Yale are unanimous and unequivocal that he was different from his classmates and his TEXAN came through every pore. (Unlike Obama, just about everybody knew him and remembers him from those days.) In his Yale MBA classes he wore cowboy boots and a flight jacket. Real Yalie, he was.

I bet you have repeated the fiction that he was East Coast so many times, you now think it’s proven history.

If that is the biography of an Easterner, I’ll eat my cowgirl hat.


99 posted on 06/25/2011 7:26:18 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette
In his Yale MBA classes he wore cowboy boots and a flight jacket. Real Yalie, he was.

GWB did undergraduate work at Yale. He got his MBA at Harvard -- where he was indeed known for wearing boots and a flight jacket on campus.

100 posted on 06/25/2011 7:40:59 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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