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To: Cincinatus' Wife; cruise_missile

I, among many Texans, know Perry is imperfect.

We also know that all, all without exception, are imperfect.

Those who infect these threads with their venomous fear and loathing of a particular imperfect candidate obviously have an ax to grind, either against that one or for a different imperfect one, or both.

People will tell you that Perry is not a statesman but a typical politician. I will tell you that he is a politician but not in the worst sense of that word, but in the traditionally acceptable sense of that word. As to whether he can rise to a level of statesmanship, that remains to be seen. Often times, the times make the man (or woman). And these are terribly bad times for America.

We must defeat Obama and hold the House and take the Senate.

Let me repeat: we must defeat Obama and hold the House and take the Senate.

I am interested in the most conservative leader - and they must have strong leadership qualities - who has at the same time the ability to defeat Obama and the Democrats and the Media.

That leader might be Rick Perry. Right now, I don’t know who else meets those criteria as well as potentially he does, who at the same time is either announced or on the cusp of it.

Despite his imperfections, the fact that Perry is a politician has its good side. The fact is, he has Tea Party credentials. The Tea Party is not monolithic, so some Tea Partiers love Perry and some hate him. I suspect some haven’t made up their minds yet, and are willing to give him a chance. The politician in Perry will absolutely have to pay attention to the Tea Party. Only the stupid believe that Perry is trying to get in so he can reprise the radical leftism of algore.

Over and over, they say since he once was a Democrat and once supported algore, he’s toast.

It’s like time stopped for them way back when. No, actually time moved on 25 years and situations changed and evolved. Just as it did with the great Ronaldus Magnus. Not only did algore change into a radical leftist when long ago he was not one, but Rick Perry finally let go of his family’s historical Texas Democrat roots and switched parties.

Was he perfect after that? Nope. Neither was Reagan after he switched.

But against Obama and the Dems of today, if it comes down to it, I would pull that lever for Rick Perry.

Or else, goodby America.


28 posted on 06/25/2011 12:59:48 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

Thank you for one of the most thoughtful posts I’ve read on FR in a long time.

Another Texan by way of GA (wish Zell Miller would have followed suit) Phil Gramm, was a democrat who joined the Republican Party.

Smart people don’t turn good people away or insult them for their past associations (we’re not talking Chicago here folks).


34 posted on 06/25/2011 1:08:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: txrangerette

“Let me repeat: we must defeat Obama and hold the House and take the Senate.”

And let me say if for a third time: we must defeat Obama and hold the House and take the Senate.


36 posted on 06/25/2011 1:10:24 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: txrangerette

Good Post!


86 posted on 06/25/2011 3:58:34 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: txrangerette
txrangerette wrote:
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We must defeat Obama and hold the House and take the Senate.

Let me repeat: we must defeat Obama and hold the House and take the Senate.

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Was he perfect after that? Nope. Neither was Reagan after he switched.

But against Obama and the Dems of today, if it comes down to it, I would pull that lever for Rick Perry.

Or else, goodby America.
First, it's not clear who you are referring to with "We." If you mean Republicans, it mostly fits, though I would disagree with you on several points.

If you mean Texans, it doesn't make much sense. Texans don't hold a majority in the House and I can't see a way that Texans could ever "take the Senate."

If you mean TEA Partiers and constitutional conservatives, it also doesn't fit. TEA Partiers and principled conservatives don't hold a majority in the House, can't take the Senate and still don't have a clear candidate in the Presidential race.

For me, principles mean more than Party. I generally vote Republican. I've "held my nose" before beleiving that the Republican was the best choice, even though the "lesser of two evils" is still evil. But I've awakened. I now care about the primaries much more than before, and I will not settle for "the evil of two lessers." In 2010, I voted for the principled conservative candidate in the Republican primary, but I left my ballot blank on the United States Representative line in the general because the Republican party leadership defeated the conservative, principled candidate in my district in the primary. I will not vote against my principles ever again. If the Republican party wants my vote, they will put up a candidate who shares my values and principles. If they don't, I'll look at alternatives (even third party alternatives) or I'll leave the line blank.

I am not alone. This is the danger for Republicans who think Romney can win. I think Romney will never be POTUS.

I'm still not sure about Perry. I hear a lot that sounds good, and my research leads me to believe that I could probably support him. He's not what we really need, but he's not offensive to my principles and values either. At best, he could be another Reagan. Obama's spin machine will try to make him another George W. Bush. I fear that he could be defeated if that happens. And the ads almost write themselves for the Obama campaign. The only way to stop it would be when Obama says, "I had to clean up George W. Bush's mess," Perry can legitimately say, "So have I, and I think I'm better at it."

Still, Perry's accent even sounds like George W. Bush a little. I think it might be too soon for another Texas Governor to try for the White House.

Also, speaking now as a constitutional conservative more than as a Republican, we don't need another Reagan today, we need another Grover Cleveland. Any candidate who wants to fill that role has my vote. Just promise to write more veto letters than any other President in history has in a 2 year Congressional Session, and in a 4 year presidential term. Both records are held by Cleveland. Further, most of Cleveland's veto letters started out something like:


I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution …
I see no evidence that anyone in the "Republican leadership" even knows those words or has ever considered putting them together in that order.

This country is already lost until we find a President who can write that 500 times on 500 different veto letters.

Until then, the best course is to find local and state candidates who are willing to live within the 10th amendment, and not just demagogue with "10th Amendment Resolutions" before passing budgets that rely heavily on extraconstitutional "Federal grants."

And TEA Partiers need to pay attention to government at all level. In Florida, all officials swear an oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution. Even Voters sign an oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution when they register to vote.

We need to educate everyone that when their city council or county commission meets and discusses applying for a federal grant for a new park or sewage treatment plant, the citizens (voters) need to stand up at that city council meeting and ask, "Where in Article 1 Section 8 of the United States Constitution will Congress find the power to give us a 'grant' for that?"

I'm not sure if Perry has stood up to the federal congress that way, and to the Texas Legislature if they try to get federal "grant money" for state and local projects.

We the People need to wake up and hold all of our "leaders" accountable to the Constitution. It has to happen from the bottom up as well as from the top down. Otherwise, you are correct, it's "Goodbye America."

The one advantage to Obama so far compared to what McCain might have inflicted on this country is that Obama has awakened many people, and these people are now reading and studying the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and the history of our founding. In the long run, this is a very good thing. If the Republicans win and people go back to sleep, that will be more damaging in the long term.

131 posted on 06/26/2011 8:40:06 AM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: txrangerette
Your points are excellent.

Obama and his Bolsheviks are the enemy, and they are rolling on the floor laughing at us as we fight amongst ourselves.

Reagan was a Democrat too, once. So was I. Once I did some research, and discovered who and what the Dems really are, I rejected them utterly, and have nothing but contempt for them. My first Presidential election-lever pull ever was for Ronald Reagan, after watching Jimmy Carter lay waste to the economy and eff-up everything he touched (and he's still plaguing us now; he does not have the decency to just fade into the sunset and go away).

To Paraphrase Saint Paul - “When I was a child, I thought like a Democrat; when I became a man, I grew a brain and became a Conservative...”

164 posted on 06/28/2011 9:02:10 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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