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"Have to do this": Cuomo Charts Course for Gay Marriage in NY
MSNBC / NYT ^ | 6/25/2011 | Michael Barbaro

Posted on 06/25/2011 4:21:03 PM PDT by sinanju

"...The story of how same-sex marriage became legal in New York is about shifting public sentiment and individual lawmakers moved by emotional appeals from gay couples who wish to be wed.

But, behind the scenes, it was really about a Republican Party reckoning with a profoundly changing power dynamic, where Wall Street donors and gay-rights advocates demonstrated more might and muscle than a Roman Catholic hierarchy and an ineffective opposition. And it was about a Democratic governor, himself a Catholic, who used the force of his personality and relentlessly strategic mind to persuade conflicted lawmakers to take a historic leap.

“I can help you,” Mr. Cuomo assured them in dozens of telephone calls and meetings, at times pledging to deploy his record-high popularity across the state to protect them in their districts. “I am more of an asset than the vote will be a liability.” ...

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: catholic; cino; cuomo; vichyrepublican
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This is the most detailed article on the matter I have been able to find. And it is an eye-opener.

So gay marriage had become Cuomo's personal crusade. And big money Republican donors and legislators just rolled over because gays are so impassioned and emotional. Well, we'll see if they get away with it. Although it's almost academic. New York is New York and the New York Repubs are moribund.

Personally, I'd be happy to allow gay marriage but the price would be the elimination of all "domestic partner" marriage-lite arrangements for gays AND straights. All or nothing.

I'm under the impression that, where it's legal, very few gays marry as gay relationships tend to be anything but stable and your average well-to-do homosexual has no intention of splitting his property and paycheck with his boy toy. If they want marriage, I say give it to them good and hard. Let them know the joys of divorce, alimony, custody fights, etc.

1 posted on 06/25/2011 4:21:04 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

Mr. Cuomo needs to leave the Church. Period. This makes me happy I no longer live in New York, but very sad for New York, as well as the country.


2 posted on 06/25/2011 4:29:16 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: sinanju

Legalize all types of marriage, too. If I want to marry my cat, who is to say I can’t?!!?!?!


3 posted on 06/25/2011 4:31:03 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: sayuncledave

Phuck the Church. If you read the whole article you’ll read that they completely fell down on the job.


4 posted on 06/25/2011 4:31:41 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: sayuncledave
God is going to get us all for this.

He will not be mocked.

I sometimes joke around in my SS class that all the human misery is God's fault anyway since He granted humans "free will".

But there are some things that are written in both Books which make it clear that God is not going to put up with homosexuals sticking it in our faces for very long.

He has already destroyed two towns that we know of for exactly just this behavior. The Apostle Paul warned the Corinthians about homos. Also, I think I read somewhere that one of the reasons that the Roman Empire failed is that homosexuality and welfare were rampant in the last days.

Anyway, every state and locality that enacts "homosexual marriage" is only driving the final nails in the United States coffin.

Elections have consequences....some are more consequential than others...Gov Cuomo looked really happy when he signed the bill last night....

5 posted on 06/25/2011 4:32:02 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: sinanju

So another story of Money, Sex and Power = total Corruption.
Throw in the glorious vanity of media manipulations and voila...... New Yucks graft and legalized corruption at its finest. All to promote and placate the gay mafia. Andrew cHomo and vapid complicits-—we collectively PUKE on you all.


6 posted on 06/25/2011 4:32:19 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: sinanju

It will only be a few weeks before they start screaming for something else. This has very little to do with marriage. It has to do with abnormal people demanding that they be considered part of the norm. Since this is, by definition, impossible, they will never be satisfied.


7 posted on 06/25/2011 4:33:07 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: sinanju

Names of the Senators who voted for this or it amounts to nothing but a waste of time to read the article.

Do not care about Cuonmo’s mechanizations, only care about which R’s voted for this, and what deals were cut to allow a dhimmi not to vote for it.


8 posted on 06/25/2011 4:33:13 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

Next up: polygamy, as part of a push for Sharia Law.


9 posted on 06/25/2011 4:33:34 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: sinanju

I wonder if he’s doing anything about NY state pensions.


10 posted on 06/25/2011 4:34:05 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: sinanju
The real question is: What will they demand next in exchange for contributions?

It isn't over by a long road.

11 posted on 06/25/2011 4:35:33 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: sayuncledave; sinanju

Cuomo in th closet???

http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?p=15880


12 posted on 06/25/2011 4:38:56 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: sinanju

” a Democratic governor, himself a Catholic, “
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being a Catholic, is NOT hereditary, like being Jewish!

the MSM constantly tells us, that bin Laden types,
“misunderstand” their “Religion of Peace”.
and that real Muslims are peaceful.

yet they constantly portray Cumo, Pelosi, Kennedy, etc.,
and good faithful mainstream Catholics.
...if you reject multiple fundamental teachings of something,
you AIN’T one.

(if i ever get interviewed by the MSM, i will tell them i am a “lifelong liberal democrat”...)

and, just for the record, bin Laden types are the ones correctly reading the Quran.
(as ANY Imam can tell you, if he believes you are a Muslim...)
the “peaceful” ones are practicing taquiya, or ignorant of their own scripture.)


13 posted on 06/25/2011 4:39:08 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: sinanju

A “profoundly changing power dynamic”, involving 2-3% of the population?? Why don’t we all roll over for the pedophiles and goat-humpers? Or rapists?

Decency is so screwed in this country any more.


14 posted on 06/25/2011 4:40:01 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: sinanju
The daily news (not worthy of caps) boasted this morning that cuomo alternately "wined and dined" and "threatened to have investigated"' whomever wasn't doing his will.

not mentioned but certainly not unthinkable is the possibility that the queer mafia threatened to burn and loot the city tomorrow when they parade their detestable stupidity all over this town.

Cuomo: the poster boy for apostasy.

15 posted on 06/25/2011 4:42:20 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters.)
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To: sinanju

First, this stupid law WAS passed by the legislature and so it’s better than by court or some silly bureaucracy.

That being said, do not forget that the DOMA is still in force, so states that do not allow same sex marriages don’t have to honor those marriages made in states that do.

BUT....come on, any Republican that voted for this thing needs to get kicked out of the party.

I’m perfectly serious here. This is a matter that Republicans...as close to conservative as we got, should have held firm on...defense of marriage.

They didn’t. No problem. They got a right.

But they are DEMOCRATS and that’s what they should be forced to be.


16 posted on 06/25/2011 4:42:45 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/201102/freerepublic-ping-list-compilation.html-Freep Ping Blog post)
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To: sayuncledave

What these people are trying to do is to abrogate another covenant between G-d and man...They try to supplant that the only reason to marry is for sex or love. But G-d laid down the foundations of marriage before the beginning of time. They have destroyed the Sabbath, Marriage, Morality (Noahide Covenant, etc.) To the point that G-d gave us these gifts, and we are giving him the finger. He will pass judgement soon. Repent, while we can.


17 posted on 06/25/2011 4:42:52 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: samtheman

Why stop there? Every possible human/child/animal/robot combination will be rammed down our throats by government. Especially for our kids in public schools.


18 posted on 06/25/2011 4:43:23 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: samtheman

Why stop there? Every possible human/child/animal/robot combination will be rammed down our throats by government. Especially for our kids in public schools.


19 posted on 06/25/2011 4:43:29 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: sinanju; samtheman; padre35

” ... they completely fell down on the job.”
///
agreed !!!
they are NOT doing their job.

How can ANY Church leader, Presbyterian, Catholic, whatever,
lead their flock astray from clear teachings of the Bible?

even worse, is Christian Ministers like Warren,
are NOT doing their job, when they promote “Chrislam”,
and praise Islam.
...instead of condemning a religion that permits sex with 9 years old (even TODAY!), and considers women inferior, and property. ...not to mention Jew-hating, and a few other things...


20 posted on 06/25/2011 4:45:49 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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