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"Have to do this": Cuomo Charts Course for Gay Marriage in NY
MSNBC / NYT ^ | 6/25/2011 | Michael Barbaro

Posted on 06/25/2011 4:21:03 PM PDT by sinanju

"...The story of how same-sex marriage became legal in New York is about shifting public sentiment and individual lawmakers moved by emotional appeals from gay couples who wish to be wed.

But, behind the scenes, it was really about a Republican Party reckoning with a profoundly changing power dynamic, where Wall Street donors and gay-rights advocates demonstrated more might and muscle than a Roman Catholic hierarchy and an ineffective opposition. And it was about a Democratic governor, himself a Catholic, who used the force of his personality and relentlessly strategic mind to persuade conflicted lawmakers to take a historic leap.

“I can help you,” Mr. Cuomo assured them in dozens of telephone calls and meetings, at times pledging to deploy his record-high popularity across the state to protect them in their districts. “I am more of an asset than the vote will be a liability.” ...

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: catholic; cino; cuomo; vichyrepublican
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To: sinanju
-“I am more of an asset than the vote will be a liability.”

Make them pay at the ballot box!

21 posted on 06/25/2011 4:45:59 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: the invisib1e hand

<<<<The pressure did not let up at home. Mr. Cuomo’s girlfriend, Sandra Lee, has a gay brother, and she frequently reminded the governor how much she wanted the law to change.<<<<

This supposedly observant Catholic governor is shacked up with his girlfriend. He doesn’t really care that much about marriage.


22 posted on 06/25/2011 4:47:19 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: sinanju

This POS Cuomo should not only be excommunicated, but his putrid carcas should be decorating a tree limb. More than any act, this whole event has laid the groundwork for the destruction of the Church in America. Pure, unadulterated evil is on the march.


23 posted on 06/25/2011 4:47:37 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Fishtalk

You’re right — DOMA is still in force, but liberal judges will inevitably declare it unconstitutional, and a more Democratic Congress would overturn it in a flash.

DOMA is DOOOOMED.


24 posted on 06/25/2011 4:51:12 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

He’s apparently a pussywhipped apostate. Which I guess might be redundant.


25 posted on 06/25/2011 4:52:35 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters.)
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To: Elendur

Names folks, these are the Vichy Republicans who supported this law:

“...Skelos, Alessi, McDonald, Saland, and Grisanti will all pay the price, and rightfully so....”

Be sure to do something to ensure they pay the proper political cost for their votes, Cuomo has said he was going “help them in their districts” well, a Dhimmicrat no less.

We should hurt them in their districts, politically speaking.


26 posted on 06/25/2011 4:53:45 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: sinanju

It’s a fantastic plan for the liberal mecca of New York. As the me and women attempt to breed with themselves their voting base will shrivel to Zero. Works for me.

Of course they can adopt but so far they seem to just want to adopt 1 or two tokens of their faux love.


27 posted on 06/25/2011 4:54:23 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: sinanju

Sodomites are part of the coalition that is taking over this country; and this action by New York is part of their reward.


28 posted on 06/25/2011 4:58:34 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: greene66

Cuomo WILL be at Church tomorrow, Will march up to the Priest who will not refuse Communion.
Works for Nancy, worked for clinton, kennedy and every politician who ever supported abortion, or homo marrage


29 posted on 06/25/2011 5:02:32 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: sinanju

If a lesbian and her new spouse fly out of New York and the TSA determines that they need the pat down. Who should perform the deed? A straight woman, straight man, gay man or otherwise? Just wondering.


30 posted on 06/25/2011 5:09:02 PM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Switch off the EPA.)
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To: sinanju
about shifting public sentiment

Mr. Sandra Lee probably needs to rethink that into "continuing media hammering".

31 posted on 06/25/2011 5:10:16 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: sinanju
“They are operational,” he told his father. Passing same-sex marriage, by contrast, “is at the heart of leadership and progressive government.”

Yes...that about sums it up.

Who cares about the economy? Sodomy is at the heart of what these people are after. Cuomo, you're a pervert.

32 posted on 06/25/2011 5:18:40 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: reefdiver
"Cuomo WILL be at Church tomorrow, Will march up to the Priest who will not refuse Communion. Works for Nancy, worked for clinton, kennedy and every politician who ever supported abortion, or homo marrage"

The Catholic Church must exercise internal discipline or it will fade away or morph into a completely different pseudo church like so many others.

33 posted on 06/25/2011 5:31:00 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

Why not my dog too, and three goldfish?


34 posted on 06/25/2011 5:32:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: sayuncledave
Mr. Cuomo needs to leave the Church. Period.

************

The gub'ner will never do this voluntarily.
Cuomo has stated his position--- and signed his name to law.

Which, IMO, places this direct challenge on the doorstep of the Cathedral:

It is time for the Archbishop to step forward and excommunicate a sitting governor.

Most Reverend Howard James Hubbard, Bishop of Albany...
We are praying--

With all due respect and reverence: What say you?

35 posted on 06/25/2011 5:33:33 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: sinanju

I read the whole article. You have skirted the no profanity rule here. Dolan has soft-pedaled in the past, with regard to Cuomo. I won’t speculate on it. I do object to it. There were others involved in fighting this. Catholic others included. While Dolan didn’t do as desired or expected, others tried.

The operative sentence is this:”By the time a Catholic bishop from Brooklyn traveled to Albany last week to tell undecided senators that passing same-sex marriage “is not in keeping with the will of their people,” it was clear the church had been outmaneuvered by the highly organized same-sex marriage coalition, with its sprawling field team and Wall Street donors.”

Cuomo’s girlfriend’s brother is gay. Senator Kruger’s involvement is directly tied to a similar situation. Then you have the corporate weasels, and RINOs (at best).

A lot fell down here. And worse, this will doubtless lead to homosexual unions being licit everywhere, regardless of what the majority of voters think. Probably by executive fiat. This is the start of an ill wind.


36 posted on 06/25/2011 5:37:21 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Siena Dreaming
“They are operational,” he told his father. Passing same-sex marriage, by contrast, “is at the heart of leadership and progressive government.”

Communist goal #26.

Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize
the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

37 posted on 06/25/2011 5:38:34 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Truth29

I have a hard time grokking the intrigue of Rome over things like this. It would be so easy to read the riot act to these grossly disobedient churches by name. But nobody seems to do it.


38 posted on 06/25/2011 5:39:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: B.O. Plenty

Every passion is being released and allowed to be expressed. These Sodomites are even invading the schools and preparing the youth for the harvest.


39 posted on 06/25/2011 5:46:57 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: B.O. Plenty

Amen....God will NOT be mocked!!! Andrew and his co-horts are tap dancing on the trap door of HELL!!!!! Don’;t watch his girlfriend’s show either....Sandra Lee.....HOEY!!


40 posted on 06/25/2011 5:50:31 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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