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Sideline player could emerge as GOP 'superhero'
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | June 26, 2011 | Salena Zito

Posted on 06/26/2011 7:13:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Whether Gov. Rick Perry of Texas takes the stage wearing a suit or jeans, he walks with a confident swagger in cowboy boots.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie owns any stage because of his blunt talk and seemingly unpopular remedies.

Outspoken former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin breaks political stereotypes with her unpredictability.

These three share something: They are popular Republicans who are not seeking the party's 2012 presidential nomination — yet. Republican voters and political strategists lately are speculating whether one of the three might be a better choice than any of eight declared GOP contenders.

People are thinking about their favorites because the contest has not begun in earnest and the debate between candidates is not engaging, said Lara Brown, a political science professor at Villanova University.

....It's not the first time people have pined for a candidate who isn't running.

[snip]

He [Perry] appeals to many Republicans — the Tea Party activists, the fiscal conservatives and the national security hawks, said Jeff Brauer, a political science professor at Keystone College. Voters perceive Perry as tough yet personable, the qualities Americans like in a president,..

[snip]

"Christie is a tough campaigner, has proven how to win in a blue state, and I think is generally liked as someone who is willing to transcend partisan politics," Kelly said.

[snip]

...Palin said: "I think that it would be a mistake for me to become some kind of conventional politician. ... It's not about me; it's not a publicity-seeking tour; it's about highlighting the great things about America."

Recent polling data show Obama is vulnerable....

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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1 posted on 06/26/2011 7:14:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
SP and RP are interlinked; if she runs he won't.

Christie? Any American who doesn't have a problem with a Ground Zero mosque - I have to really question their patriotism. OTOH, I do like the way he throws it right back at the Rats. But the mosque issue is a biggie in my book.

2 posted on 06/26/2011 7:26:35 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: All
NOTE: Governors!


3 posted on 06/26/2011 7:28:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GOPsterinMA

disagree. Perry will take votes from Mitt. Perry would be a great stalking horse for Palin. Palin’s support isn’t going anywhere but to Palin unless she screws up or doesn’t run. Perry will tak away the Anyone but Palin “conservative” vote from Mitt and to a large part Bachmann. Making it a two person race between Mitt and Palin in the polls. The longer Perry stay in the race the mor ethe race becomes a two person race between Mitt and Palin. And if a stalking horse gets in and takes mitt votes away from his left like say rudy then Palin leaps into the lead position as mitt falters...then I think you see a massive push by the establishment to get christie into the race or Jeb....


4 posted on 06/26/2011 7:32:17 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1

I’m waiting to see how Palin and Perry campaign. I like them both. But they need to be able to GET OUT THE VOTE and take it to Obama.

We all can’t be pigeon-holed so easily. We are not sheeple.


5 posted on 06/26/2011 7:37:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: unseen1
I really, really like Perry.

I think Palin has faded but has a fan club...much like Hillary did.

Now who would make a good VP for Perry???....besides Palin.

6 posted on 06/26/2011 7:39:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Salena Zito site:freerepublic.com
Google
Thanks Cincinatus' Wife.


7 posted on 06/26/2011 7:40:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Sacajaweau

Scott Walker?

(Since you’re leading with your chin, I’ll take a few blows to avert your complete incineration)


8 posted on 06/26/2011 7:44:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sacajaweau

ROFl faded? We shall see. First time I have ever heard politcal supporters of a candidate referred to as a fan club.....

here is a hint. All of those “declared” candidates would sell their mother’s soul for Palin’s “fan club”

as far as Perry goes all you need to know is that Perry had Palin come in to do a rally for his re-election on Super bowl Sunday. 8,000 people showed up. Perry had a rally the next week a non superbowl super and 500 people showed up. even in TX Palin is the bigger draw.

Perry might make a good VP for Palin. I think the establishment would be happy if Palin threw them that bone much like Reagan threw them the Bush bone in 1980


9 posted on 06/26/2011 7:50:51 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

of course the GOTV is important. and their cmapaigns are important but right now the declared candidates suck.


10 posted on 06/26/2011 7:51:51 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1
Tidbit: "Data recently released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis show Texas represents 8.3 percent of the economy, displacing New York as the second-largest economy behind California."

Nice graphic about U.S. jobs the last ten years.

You'll find Texas real easily on the chart.

11 posted on 06/26/2011 7:57:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: unseen1
Interesting scenario.

“or Jeb....”

I've been saying that for ~18 months. If the nomination process becomes a pinata, Jeb could/would get drafted as the nominee.

12 posted on 06/26/2011 7:58:26 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: Salena Zito

Thanks. You do a great job of walking the fine line.


13 posted on 06/26/2011 8:02:02 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: unseen1

I live in Texas. Both my kids graduated from A & M, Perry’s alma mater. I like Perry and, overall, he has done a good job for Texas. BUT, he is not the committed conservative that Palin is. Like Bush the younger and older, he can be counted on to say one thing then do another on an important issue, e.g. “read my lips”. On immigration, he will say one thing on the campaign trail and then cave. He’s Jeb Bush on immigration.........and not “light”. Like Jeb and the pubbie elites, Rick has convinced himself that the Hispanic vote is there IF and only IF “amnesty” is granted to 20 million folks. Every single Mexican I have talked to is against amnesty. Yes, we desperately need their workers and particularly the construction industry. But, amnesty is mis-understood by elite pubbies. Work permits and a secure, whatever it takes, border are the main answers.

Personally, I think LBJ, not Carter was our worst president, Bush the older was not too good either though I respected him. Bush the younger was good in so many ways, and very likeable, but a dad gum big spending liberal at heart. So, sadly, “Texas” Presidents..........uh....ain’t exactly standing tall when compared to one certain “MAN” from the left coast.

Finally, the boys have had their shot for 200 plus years, and I am excluding Obama as he is such an incalcuable disaster.

So, in my paltry opinion, it’s time to give the girls a shot........... They surely can do no worse!!! I much prefer Palin but I like Bachmann too. In Palin, I believe we can count on her not caving on the big issues. That woman is tough and fearless and there is no evidence of her caving on any issue connected to her core beliefs. (and, in advance to the trolls, please spare me the resignation thing comment; as we now know, it was a brilliant move as without it we (conservatives) would not control the house)


14 posted on 06/26/2011 8:02:02 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: GOPsterinMA
....., Jeb could/would get drafted as the nominee.

If that is the case, we might just as well cancel the 2012 election and let Obama rule 'till our goose is cooked.

15 posted on 06/26/2011 8:02:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GOPsterinMA
I've been saying that for ~18 months. If the nomination process becomes a pinata, Jeb could/would get drafted as the nominee.

If Jeb gets the nomination, I'm going to write in Terri Schindler.

16 posted on 06/26/2011 8:11:33 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Cen-Tejas
I live in Texas too.

I like Rick Perry and I like Sarah Palin too.

Why is it that so many people who support Sarah Palin never talk about her accomplishments, preferring instead to tear down other conservative candidates?

I quote from your post: Like Jeb and the pubbie elites, Rick has convinced himself that the Hispanic vote is there IF and only IF “amnesty” is granted to 20 million folks. Every single Mexican I have talked to is against amnesty. Yes, we desperately need their workers and particularly the construction industry. But, amnesty is mis-understood by elite pubbies. Work permits and a secure, whatever it takes, border are the main answers.

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[excerpt] "Perry, in Mexico with a Texan trade mission seeking opportunities in areas like renewable energy, said the federal government’s plan to build a wall along much of the border to keep out illegal immigrants was “idiocy.”

“We need those individuals to continue to grow our economy,” Perry told a briefing with reporters.

“If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.” [end excerpt] Source

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"......When Obama continued to refuse even five minutes for the Governor, Perry took matters into this own hands and was standing on the tarmac at Austin’s airport when President Obama stepped off of Air Force One. Obama looked confused, Perry looked determined. Obama still ignored the pleas for help.

Perry again took matters into his own hands, and established an elite unit of Texas Rangers to bolster border security..." Source

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"Other states leaving Secure Communities (TX expands ICE program]--- "As Texas moves toward expanding Secure Communities, several northern states are dropping out of the program that matches the fingerprints of those arrested against a U.S. [ICE] database.

Last week, before Gov. Rick Perry's announcement that the expansion of Secure Communities would be on the agenda for the Legislature's special session, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick announced his state will not take part in the program...." Source

17 posted on 06/26/2011 8:18:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Fiji Hill
I'm not advocating a Jeb candidacy, Lord no. This country isn't a monarchy.

Write-ins are a good protest. OTOH, I think it's very possible that Jeb COULD beat Obama.

Like I wrote in another thread last week, at this point, people would drop to their knees and cry praises to Heaven for 4.6% unemployment and gasoline at $1.85/gallon, IOW, a Bush economy.

18 posted on 06/26/2011 8:38:18 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: Sacajaweau
The best VP for Perry ( for which there is zero plausible deniability ) is Rudy Giuliani. They have been political and lobbying allies for decades and pushed the Trans Texas Corridor together.

They share much of the same policies.

19 posted on 06/26/2011 8:58:12 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for your response to my post and nice to hear from a fellow Texan!

As you likely know then, in Texas we have families that on Thanksgiving draw real fine lines. Mine is a perfect example of that. Mom and Dad LOVE our Aggie kids, AND Texas A & M University, but we we are “Tea Sips” (to you non Texans that is Aggie talk for someone that went to arch rival UT-Austin, 65 miles away). So, 364 days out of the year, Mom and Dad are proud Aggies. But, when the Horns line up against the Ags on the gridiron come Thanksgiving each year.........it’s “hook em horns” from mom and dad vs “gig em” (and a lot worse!) from the aggie kids and their buddies in the living room.

Similarly, I’m not trying to tear down ole Rick. I am just trying to draw a fine line. Indeed, he’s a good guy and I certainly will vote for him, work hard for him and contribute to him IF he wins the nomination. And, oh for heavens sake, he would be immeasurably better than the current occupant of the White House!!! But, he ain’t no Sara Palin or Ronald Reagan. And, Texas Presidents, History teaches us without a doubt, campaign conservative and then lean left for 4 years. In LBJ’s case he didn’t lean. He just stepped completely back and forth across the line whenever it suited him. At least, he could read tea leaves though and did not attempt to run again.............lesson to Obama!!!


20 posted on 06/26/2011 9:08:57 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Cen-Tejas

agree on just about every point you made.


21 posted on 06/26/2011 9:29:36 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: GOPsterinMA

yeap he is out there. it hink we would lose by a landslide if he is the nominee but the eastablishment wants him if they can get him...


22 posted on 06/26/2011 9:31:16 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

interesting that you had to go back for the last 10 years. during the Bush recovery and all that.

I just went back 5 years for this:

NEW YORK, July 26 (Reuters) - North Dakota and Alaska have
added the most jobs, while Nevada, California and Florida have
lost the most, in the last five years, according to research
released on Monday. The study of U.S. employment trends found 40 states had
fewer jobs in May 2010 than they did five years earlier,
according to Portfolio.com, a business news site that published
the research of private-sector employment conducted by American
City Business Journals. Here are the state-by-state rankings as of mid-2010:
1 North Dakota
2 Alaska
3 Texas
4 South Dakota
5 District of Columbia
6 Nebraska


23 posted on 06/26/2011 9:34:56 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: Sacajaweau

How are you on Perry’s dealings with immigration and relations with Mexico?

He was a supporter of the the trans-Texas corridor. He passed legilsation similar to the Dream Act.

“We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.”

Yep, that’s Perry saying, “Yes, we can,” in Spanish.

Most of the stuff I hear on him regarding the border dates to 2001. I’m trying to keep an objective opinion on him, but he seems pretty squishy moderate on some important issues—a bit of a Bush.


24 posted on 06/26/2011 10:01:02 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: unseen1

Why aren’t we hearing more about Sarah Palin’s job numbers in Alaska?

BTW— my LINKED information SPANS 10 years (not “had to go back 10 years”).


25 posted on 06/26/2011 10:43:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

because the Media would rather talk about what shoes she is wearing. in 2009. Texas at Unemployment rate of 8.0% Ak had 7.4%


26 posted on 06/26/2011 10:46:45 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: CaspersGh0sts
You forgot to LINK to your quote above (seems to be a common problem here on FR) so I'll add it for those who want to READ all that was written.

Gov. Perry and The Texas Dream Act ****"....It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the Texas Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful." ****

27 posted on 06/26/2011 10:52:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: unseen1

Well you seem to be good with “Google” why don’t you do it?


28 posted on 06/26/2011 10:53:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: unseen1

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST480000&dl=en&hl=en&q=texas+unemployment+rate#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=state&idim=state:ST480000:ST020000&hl=en&dl=en


29 posted on 06/26/2011 10:56:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: unseen1

This really is a “fun” interactive graphic.

You can check off the states you want to see their employment figures (as many as you want to come up in comparison.

Above was Alaska and Texas (seasonal) I guess Obama’s hit on the oil sector has really depressed the employment numbers in both states — they would be even better with his foot off their job growth necks.

Here is Alaska, Texas and Michigan shown together:

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST480000&dl=en&hl=en&q=texas+unemployment+rate#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=state&idim=state:ST480000:ST020000:ST260000&hl=en&dl=en


30 posted on 06/26/2011 11:03:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All

June 26, 2011

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Bachmann is riding high in the first Des Moines Register Iowa Poll of likely GOP caucusgoers. She’s just one percentage point behind Mitt Romney, the national front-runner, in an eight-person field. The Minnesota congresswoman is by far the most popular out of 18 current or potential candidates, including Sarah Palin. All on the eve of her formal presidential campaign launch.

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Potential candidates: Fourteen percent of likely caucusgoers are undecided, and 69 percent say they could be persuaded to support someone else. There’s still ample opportunity for a candidate like Texas Gov. Rick Perry (43 percent favorable, 8 percent unfavorable) to jump in. Palin is still popular, with a stronger net favorability rating than Romney.

[snip]

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/06/26/theres-good-news-bad-news-for-minnesotans-in-new-iowa-poll/


31 posted on 06/26/2011 11:15:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sacajaweau

This is some “fan” club.

Three days ago the AP-Gfk poll showed Palin as first in favorability among all GOP candidates with republicans

Twelve days ago The Economist/YouGov poll had her at first on the 2012 list as nominee choice.

Eighteen days ago the Reuters/IPSOS poll had Palin at first of the 2012 list as nominee choice.


32 posted on 06/26/2011 11:19:52 AM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
(Since you’re leading with your chin, I’ll take a few blows to avert your complete incineration)

Now *that* was tasteful.

(And funny as heck!)

Cheers!

33 posted on 06/26/2011 12:40:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

=^D


34 posted on 06/26/2011 2:17:06 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sacajaweau

WTH has Hillary got to do with Gov Palin?? Why try and bring down Palin with Hillary? Hillary supports infanticide etc.


35 posted on 06/26/2011 7:07:01 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN OR BUST....Bachmann no thanks)
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