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Los Angeles gives up on homework
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 27, 2011 | Howard Blume

Posted on 06/27/2011 8:13:40 AM PDT by van_erwin

Vanessa Perez was a homework scofflaw. The Marshall High School senior didn't finish all of it — largely because she worked 24 hours a week at a Subway sandwich shop.

Alvaro Ramirez, a junior at the Santee Education Complex, doesn't have his own room and his mother baby-sits young children at night. "They're always there and they're always loud," he said, explaining his challenges with homework.

The nation's second-largest school system has decided to give students like these a break. A new policy decrees that homework can count for only 10% of a student's grade.

Critics — mostly teachers — worry that the policy will encourage students to slack off assigned work and even reward those who already disregard assignments. And they say it could penalize hardworking students who receive higher marks for effort.

Some educators also object to a one-size-fits-all mandate they said could hamstring teaching or homogenize it. They say, too, that students who do their homework perform significantly better than those who don't — a view supported by research.

But Los Angeles Unified is pressing forward, joining a growing list of school districts across the country that are taking on homework — including Fontana and Pleasanton, N.J. In many districts, limits are being placed on the amount of homework so students can spend more time with their families or pursue extracurricular activities like sports or hobbies. The competition to get into top colleges has left students anxious and exhausted, with little free time, parents complain.

In Davis, a policy that took effect this year specifies homework maximums, with some exceptions for advanced courses. And it prohibits assigning homework over weekends and holidays while also addressing the quality of the assignments.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 6hoursareenough; education; homework; lausd; learning; slackers; surrender; teaching
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To: van_erwin

Yet Lincoln learned the law by candlelight between chopping wood and finding food!


41 posted on 06/27/2011 9:20:35 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

Fast Food such as McDonald’s and Subway is all about repetition. Even for a manager...

At any rate, at that age education is more important than experience. Once over 30 I believe it reveres. Probably because most people have been out of school for a while at this point. Thus, what is important is what have you been doing since. The only time education applies after 30 is when you have two equal candidates applying for a position. Which by the way is very rare. Most of the time WHO and WHAT you know is what will get you a job. That has been my experience.


42 posted on 06/27/2011 9:20:45 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: massgopguy
I remember a woman caller to Dr. Laura saying how she told her boss that she had ADHD and if he can forget about her meeting a project deadline.

Nowadays she could probably file suit under the Americans With Disabilities Act and win.
43 posted on 06/27/2011 9:36:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: massgopguy
Not too many years ago, my wife and I took on a family of six foster kids, three girls 11-14 and three boys 6-9. The 9 year old boy was a real smart mouth with ADHD.

One day he got a bit too much for me and tried to excuse his behavior by using the ADHD excuse. I looked at him and said "That's your problem, not mine. You're the one who is going to have to learn how to deal with it, not everyone else around you!"

It was like a light turned on in his head. Nobody had ever told him that.

I added "You can learn how to deal with it now, while you are surrounded by people who care about you or you can learn how to deal with it later, when you are on your own and nobody cares. Which will it be?"

The Dad (decent guy and a family friend) finally got full custody from his useless ex- was able to reclaim his kids about two months later and told me that was a transformational moment for his son. It is just sad that our asinine court system had to suck him dry financially before they finally did what was best for the kids and got the enabling ex- out of the picture, permanently.

44 posted on 06/27/2011 9:43:37 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: van_erwin
My school went to a 10% HW grade, which isn't so bad for me, because it was always coming in late anyway and piled up and I didn't want to grade it. Problem was: I was told that I had to allow it to be handed in (although I could downgrade it) and parents -- particularly the more responsible ones who were making efforts even when their children didn't -- would ask me to accept it.

The bigger trouble for my students: if homework was only 10%, classwork got bumped up to 40%. And *I* am the one deciding how good your classwork is, and if I tell you that copying the "Aim:" into your notebook and one problem with no answer isn't doing your classwork, you aren't getting a big chunk of that 40%.

45 posted on 06/27/2011 10:02:47 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: whd23

I just finished “The Homework Myth” by Alfie Kohn. Very interesting.


46 posted on 06/27/2011 10:03:12 AM PDT by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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To: Sprite518
I'm a Manufacturing Engineer specializing in electric motors. My point was learning to be a manager a more valuable use of my time. Yes, some of it is repetition, but it is also learning to deal with the unexpected, allocation of resources and dealing with people.
47 posted on 06/27/2011 10:16:26 AM PDT by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
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To: Moonman62

“Can’t they find some Asian examples? “

Almost certainly not :)


48 posted on 06/27/2011 10:20:44 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Not too many years ago, my wife and I took on a family of six foster kids, three girls 11-14 and three boys 6-9.”

Awesome save, Vigilanteman, way to go.


49 posted on 06/27/2011 10:24:26 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Abathar

I’ve heard that the amount of homework that should be assigned is about 15 minutes per grade level, for everything.

Anything more and it starts to resemble work, for the sake of working.


50 posted on 06/27/2011 10:34:33 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: van_erwin

The Educational “system” won’t ever get fixed. Think about it, how would that benefit the Powers that be to have a populace of critical thinking, highly educated masses?


51 posted on 06/27/2011 10:39:18 AM PDT by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: Myrddin

What a load of BS. I worked 24+ hours a week a Farrell’s Ice Cream during my senior year and never missed a homework assignment. In grad school, I worked 42 hours a week with 16 units of course work each semester. During all the years I attended school, my parents ran the TV or stereo at a high volume level. Sometimes I just had to defer working on my homework until the 10 PM to 2 AM time slot when the noise was gone. I didn’t let that stop me. Losers make excuses.


Right on. No one likes the prospect of having to work hard as well as overcome adversity. I guess the few that manage to overcome will be the only ones who enjoy the fruits of their labor.


52 posted on 06/27/2011 10:51:45 AM PDT by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: van_erwin

Final Exam Question (90% of school year): “In a five paragraph essay, explain why Sarah Palin is a dangerous bimbo and a ditz.” (/s)


53 posted on 06/27/2011 10:54:44 AM PDT by istandwithsarah (Game on!)
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To: van_erwin

Bump


54 posted on 06/27/2011 10:57:08 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: van_erwin
What this REALLY proves...

Student performance is largely dependent on their lives at home, their parents, and their own desire.

If their PARENTS cannot provide an environment for them to do their homework, and enforce the need for them to do it, they won't do well.

55 posted on 06/27/2011 11:01:00 AM PDT by RockinRight (Cain/Bachmann, Bachmann/Rubio, or, if you really want some fun, Cain/McCotter in 2012!)
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To: van_erwin
Homework can be excessive. But often the problem is that it is unimaginative and not tailored to the individual.

A 'One size fits all' policy is part of the problem - not a solution.

56 posted on 06/27/2011 12:07:18 PM PDT by Crichton
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To: Amerikan_Samurai
I guess the few that manage to overcome will be the only ones who enjoy the fruits of their labor.

Remember the parable of the ant and the grasshopper? The reward for years of hard work will be hordes of grasshoppers claiming the prosperity you worked so hard to attain isn't "fair". It must be seized and redistributed to those who made no effort.

57 posted on 06/27/2011 12:19:42 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: unixfox
The will go door to door as part of the new civilian Obamacorps, confiscating incandescent light bulbs.
58 posted on 06/27/2011 12:20:58 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: van_erwin

Alvaro Ramirez could go to the library after school or perhaps in the evening... with his father (???). He could also buy ear plugs. His mother could step up and teach the little kids that she babysits to respect education by enforcing a period of quiet play or story time for the kids she babysits.


59 posted on 06/27/2011 12:23:02 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: van_erwin

My mom’s smoking crack all night. And the guys she is with are all very noisy. Do I still have to do my schoolwork?


60 posted on 06/27/2011 12:24:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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