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Gay marriage decisions shows 'leadership,' Rudy Giuliani says of Andrew Cuomo
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Posted on 06/27/2011 5:22:05 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Gay marriage decisions shows 'leadership,' Rudy Giuliani says of Andrew Cuomo

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the only potential 2012 candidate who would be legal to perform same-sex marriages under the New York law that passed last week, walked a delicate line today in his first public comments on the topic, per the Daily News politics blog:

"My thoughts are that I'm glad that people who felt discriminated against have sort of had that burden of discrimination lifted. I signed the first civil-union, domestic partnership bill I think in the country. Maybe it was the second. And I still take a lot of criticism for that," said 2008 GOP presidential hopeful Giuliani at Joe Torre's Safe at Home Foundation golf outing at Trump National Golf Club in Briarcliff Manor.

"I still state that marriage is being defined between a man and a woman, but I can truly understand what people are striving for. And as someone who signed civil unions and domestic partnerships, that's probably my preference," Giuliani said, according to our Peter Botte.

"But I was very glad to see people relieved of this burden of discrimination, which is a terrible thing to feel...

"And I think Gov. Cuomo deserves a lot of credit. Even if you don't agree with the result, it showed a lot of leadership to execute the result. For the first time in a long time, we're seeing leadership at the gubernatorial level in New York, including expenses and a lot of systematic control of government and I think that's a good sign for a lot of other things the governor can do."

Giuliani explicitly voiced his feelings about marriage as "between a man and a woman" in his 2008 presidential run, when he was courting conservative activists.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cuomo; homosexualagenda; rudy
Why is he a....? Never mind, typical RINO.......
1 posted on 06/27/2011 5:22:10 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

rudy the sodomite lover


2 posted on 06/27/2011 5:23:29 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Sub-Driver

Reason number 1,135 why Rootie will never be president.


3 posted on 06/27/2011 5:24:31 PM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: Sub-Driver

Leadership to...where exactly?


4 posted on 06/27/2011 5:24:34 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Sub-Driver

RINO, as with liberalism, is a mental disorder..... =.=


5 posted on 06/27/2011 5:24:46 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Sub-Driver

Gay marriage decisions shows ‘leadership,’ Rudy Giuliani says of Andrew Cuomo

That’s leadership????????????????????????????????????????????


6 posted on 06/27/2011 5:28:51 PM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: Sub-Driver
No, Rudy.

REAL leadership would have been for Gov. Cuomo to stand against the rich, well-funded people who want to re-define (and ultimately destroy) marriage.

It was easier for Gov. Cuomo to be led around by the non-thinking people who favorite counterfeit marriage.

7 posted on 06/27/2011 5:33:16 PM PDT by chs68
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To: Sub-Driver

Who knew there was still room in Giuliani’s mouth to put yet another foot in it?


8 posted on 06/27/2011 5:33:49 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Sub-Driver

I have come full to the side of people who think that people like Giuliani are just as dangerous, if not more so than someone like Schumer, Pelosi or even Obama.

The knife from those three would be into the front of the chest, and it would be faster without the cover of “bipartisan conservative support”


9 posted on 06/27/2011 5:35:24 PM PDT by rlmorel (Sometimes, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But not always.)
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To: Sub-Driver

So much for Juliani as a viable candidate for anything.


10 posted on 06/27/2011 5:37:04 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Sub-Driver

So much for Juliani as a viable candidate for anything.


11 posted on 06/27/2011 5:37:04 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: chs68

He needs to go church, which he doesn’t.......


12 posted on 06/27/2011 5:38:06 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver

FURG!!!


13 posted on 06/27/2011 5:38:10 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: rlmorel

Rudy’
s statement didn’t sound a very delicate line to me. He endorsed Cuomo and the Homo’s.

Rudy is toast as far as this election goes.

One thing [politicians should remember about the Homo vote.

“There aint enough of them to elect your dumb ass”.


14 posted on 06/27/2011 5:38:16 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Sub-Driver
NY

Nuke it from orbit, just to be sure.

15 posted on 06/27/2011 5:40:23 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Sub-Driver; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; Antoninus; BabaOreally; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping

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16 posted on 06/27/2011 5:41:59 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Sub-Driver

After his 09/11 activities, this guy should have retired never to be heard from again. Only bad will come of it Rudy. Put a sock in it.


17 posted on 06/27/2011 5:42:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.)
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To: chainsaw

Real leadership would be to do the right thing, and not cave to whatever the latest craze is. With today’s instant online communications, politicians too quickly jump to whatever direction the wind seems to be blowing without thinking things through. Teaching children homosexual perversion is a viable lifestyle is nothing short of child abuse.


18 posted on 06/27/2011 5:42:41 PM PDT by ransacked
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To: Sub-Driver
I think Rudy would make a FABULOUS president:


19 posted on 06/27/2011 5:44:36 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Sub-Driver

Which is EXACTLY why Rudy did so poorly in the last election he was in....and why he WON’T do well in this one, should he decide to try.


20 posted on 06/27/2011 5:49:29 PM PDT by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe Cuomo is a leader, but he is not a leader of the breeders.

Just remember, the next generation of successful, happy citizens will largely be the product of two-parent, intact, conservative families.


21 posted on 06/27/2011 5:50:56 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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So there is "Rudy" for us... Not that he ever FOOLED us for a minute!... The fags were behind him all the way, probably waiting for him to do what cuomo just did... Not surprised!

Neither will Romney fool us... we know what he is about. I'm surprised he thinks that "good hair" (LOL), and money will buy him the nomination. Not anymore pal, voters are wising up finally...

Character matters and Romney does not know the "meaning" of it.

22 posted on 06/27/2011 5:51:16 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: Sub-Driver

Burn in hell, Rudy, and take NYC with you. If another 9/11 hits, you pervs can have it all to yourselves. I’m never again wasting time and energy raising money for such a degenerate cesspool. Cuomo, Rudy... you’re filth!


23 posted on 06/27/2011 5:54:51 PM PDT by greene66
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To: lurk

“Leadership to...where exactly?”

This way to the INFERNO! Follow me, boys!


24 posted on 06/27/2011 5:56:58 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
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To: Sub-Driver

the voters don’t need ‘leadership’. They need representation


25 posted on 06/27/2011 6:05:49 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Sub-Driver

Seems that Rudy likely enjoys Gladiator movies.


26 posted on 06/27/2011 6:09:13 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Gay marriage decisions shows 'leadership,' Rudy Giuliani says of Andrew Cuomo

I suppose the first lemming over the cliff is showing similar leadship.

27 posted on 06/27/2011 6:13:44 PM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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To: wagglebee

And people were pro-Giuliani on FR a few years back! !!1!


28 posted on 06/27/2011 6:16:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

So did the captain of the Titanic.

Thanks Sub-Driver.


29 posted on 06/27/2011 6:22:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Sub-Driver
Tyrants show leadership as well. Leadership devoid of a moral premise and not limited tends toward corruption.

Let's be real here, Cuomo returned a favor to the homosexusl sex special interest group that is part of the community that put the ass in office.

30 posted on 06/27/2011 6:27:33 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Sub-Driver
it would seem that Andrew goes both ways:

Mario Cuomo Patched Things Up With Ed Koch For Andrew

The NY Times has a long feature on the relationship between former NY governor Mario Cuomo and presumptive 2010 gubernatorial candidate Andrew Cuomo that includes quotes like "He’s thick skulled; he won’t listen to me. Tell him what to do" (supposedly what Mario told a consultant about Andrew) and "There was this sense of rivalry — Andrew seemed to feel that his dad talked a good game but that he, Andrew, got things done" (someone who worked under Andrew Cuomo at HUD). But what's interesting is how the 1977 mayoral campaign comes into play.

Back in 1977, Mario Cuomo was battling Ed Koch for the NYC mayorship, and there were nasty campaign posters saying "Vote For Cuomo, Not The Homo." When Andrew Cuomo was running for attorney general in 2006 (after his failed 2002 gubernatorial run and divorce from Kerry Kennedy), the NY Times reports, "Mario approached George Arzt, a former press secretary to Mr. Koch, at the Regency Hotel in New York and told him, “‘I’d like to patch things up with Ed,’ ” Mr. Arzt recalled. “I asked him what he had in mind. And he said, ‘Could Ed endorse Andrew?’" Which Koch did do.

Koch, for his part, told Esquire, "The signs said, VOTE FOR CUOMO, NOT THE HOMO. Andrew says he didn't do it, and I believe him. Mario says he thinks he now knows who did it. I was very angry at the time. Primary races always end in anger. They're different than the general election: They're like a civil war — it's brother against brother. But I've forgiven them. I'm eighty-five now, and grudges take your energy away. I've forgiven them all."

Legalize Gay Marriage - Vote Homo Not Cuomo <<--- UTube Ad

The already circus-like race for New York governor just went from one ring to three.

Independent Kristin Davis, the former New York madam, is now calling out Democrat Andrew Cuomo for not taking a stronger stance for gay rights.

“It’s outrageous that New York has not legalized same-sex marriage,” Davis says in a new ad. “Andrew Cuomo says he supports it, but when the marriage equality bill was before the Senate, he was asked to call three undecided Democratic senators and declined. A vote for me sends a strong message to Cuomo: we demand gay marriage now.”

She ends the ad with a catchy phrase: “Vote homo, not Cuomo”:

According to CBS News, the line is a play off a campaign slogan used by some supporters of Andrew’s father Mario in the 1977 New York mayoral election against Ed Koch: “Vote for Cuomo, not the homo.” The reference was meant to advance rumors about Koch’s sexuality.

from a left wing political site the evening of the big celebration:

Andrew Cuomo 2016 speculation heating up Politico ^ | 06/26/11

With his successful push to pass a gay marriage law, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo overnight became a national contender, putting down a major marker among the liberal party base that dominates the primaries.

“Most politicians, including most Democrats, have been afraid of this issue. Andrew is the first national figure ever to embrace it so enthusiastically,” said Richard Socarides, the president of Equality Matters and a former Clinton White House adviser. “Clearly, this establishes him as the most important progressive leader of our party, setting him up very well for 2016.”

Come 2016, “Cuomo is the only one who will be able to say ‘I delivered for you’ before everyone else realized it was politically popular, and that will be an invaluable asset,” Socarides said, adding, “it also has the benefit of being true.”

Cuomo supporters already have fanned the flames privately of his prospects on the national stage: Rumors of his White House ambitions started circulating in New York even before he was elected last year by one of the largest margins in state history — some of them date to the days when he was managing his father’s own multiple flirtations with a national run. ..........

Of the early potential Democratic contenders, Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley says he supports gay marriage but stopped short of making a major push for the legislation earlier in the year, while Virginia Sen. Mark Warner is opposed. Hillary Clinton, if she runs, would still have her commitment to civil unions but not gay marriage from the 2008 race hanging over her — and at least until the end of next year, when she’s said she’ll be done at the State Department, she won’t be able to make any new comments on the issue.

“It gives him an authenticity and a strength with progressives that will provide a real base — not just gays, but progressives in general. Other people can say they’re for same sex marriage, he got it done,” said Democratic political consultant Bob Shrum. “I think it will always now be a hallmark of his political persona.”

Cuomo’s push on gay marriage wasn’t in a vacuum — it came at the end of a tough legislative session when New York progressives were forced to swallow major budget cuts, tough on unions rhetoric and a refusal to even consider renewing the state’s expired millionaire’s tax.

That’s part of the persona he’s crafting too, as Cuomo sets himself up as a governor who’s pushed the party to the left on social issues and toward the center-right on economic issues. It’s a message with both primary and general election appeal, though being so far out-front on gay marriage could be a problem in a November national election.

“He’s created a profile that I think would make him a very effective candidate,” Shrum said. “He’s right on the social issues, and he will be even more right by 2016 than he is now in terms of Democratic primary voters, and in terms of the country, frankly. He’s created a profile of economic stewardship in a very difficult period that is very strong, he’s managed to deal with unions without getting into the kind of destructive confrontations that people like Scott Walker have.”

.......

Joe Trippi, the former Howard Dean and John Edwards adviser, said it’s not too early to start the 2016 clock — and, pointing to Michael Dukakis in 1988, noted there’s a precedent for an ethnic Northeast governor appealing to Democrats far away from home.

“I understand 2016’s a long way off, and who knows where things will be then, but certainly, he has to be somebody that the party looks to for leadership once you get past Obama’s reelection,” Trippi said. “He’s putting his stamp on what kind of party he thinks the Democrats should be.”

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31 posted on 06/27/2011 6:30:45 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Sub-Driver

I understand his point but you gotta draw the line Rudy. Cmon.


32 posted on 06/27/2011 6:32:29 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters)
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To: Sub-Driver

Buh-bye, Rudy!


33 posted on 06/27/2011 6:37:00 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Ole Okie

Hitler showed great “leadership” too, I guess...;


34 posted on 06/27/2011 7:13:12 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( The Obama regime.....and all that goes with it .."All part of the "big plan"......)
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To: Sub-Driver
"I signed the first civil-union, domestic partnership bill I think in the country. Maybe it was the second. And I still take a lot of criticism for that,"

Damn straight you do, and always will you stupid phony.

35 posted on 06/27/2011 7:16:41 PM PDT by montag813 (SECURE THE DAMN BORDER! http://www.facebook.com/StandwithArizona)
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To: Sub-Driver

Rick Perry, who many here think is a dedicated social conservative, backed thrice-married, pro-abortion Rudy Giuliani for the nomination in 2007. When Rudy dropped out, Perry backed RINO McCain.


36 posted on 06/27/2011 7:34:41 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Sub-Driver

(Gag Alert?)


37 posted on 06/27/2011 8:31:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Sub-Driver

>> “But I was very glad to see people relieved of this burden of discrimination, which is a terrible thing to feel...

Statist much?

The joy of gay: an aphrodisiac for the statists and stupid.

The rest of us will need to deal with the bureaucratic reality that marches on like a jackbooted tyrant.


38 posted on 06/27/2011 8:42:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Rca2000

Hitler at least knew how to turn an economy around.


39 posted on 06/27/2011 8:42:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Sad ain't it?)
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To: hellbender
Palin hitched her star to RINO McCain. Cain backed Romney. DeMint backed Romney. Santorum backed Spector. Newt supported Scozzafava.

The list goes on...

40 posted on 06/27/2011 8:47:00 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Sub-Driver

And there are those who want us to believe he will be a candidate on our side! UGH!


41 posted on 06/28/2011 4:45:06 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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