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Sex at Work?
Townhall.com ^ | June 28, 2011 | Frank Turek

Posted on 06/28/2011 9:03:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

Are you supposed to have sex at work? I guess it depends on your profession, but for most of us the answer is “no.” Why then is corporate America obsessed with training about sex?

As described in several recent columns by Mike Adams, I was fired as a vendor by Cisco for my conservative beliefs about sex and marriage even though my beliefs were never expressed on the job. When a homosexual manager found out on the Internet that I had authored a book giving evidence that maintaining our current marriage laws would be best for society, he couldn’t tolerate me and requested I be fired. An HR executive canned me within hours without ever speaking to me. This happened despite the fact that the leadership and teambuilding programs I led always received high marks (even from the homosexual manager!).

How could an experienced HR professional commit such a blatant act of discrimination unless the Cisco culture was decidedly tilted left? Why didn’t Cisco’s relentless emphasis and training on “inclusion and diversity” serve to prevent this? Maybe it’s because “inclusion and diversity” means something different to corporate elites than to normal Americans. That’s why their training didn’t prevent the problem but actually created an environment of intolerance that led to the problem.

Cisco’s chief “Inclusion and Diversity” officer, Ms. Marilyn Nagel, had trouble on the phone defining what “inclusion and diversity” actually means at Cisco, so she sent me several links from the Cisco website. As in our conversation, I found no specific definition on the website but plenty of platitudes, such as Cisco is committed to “valuing and encouraging different perspectives, styles, thoughts, and ideas.”

If that’s the case, then why not value my “perspectives, styles, thoughts and ideas?”

Because only certain perspectives, styles, thoughts and ideas are approved, you see. “Inclusion and diversity” to corporate elites actually means exclusion for those that don’t agree with the approved views. Whoops, there goes “diversity.”

Shouldn’t the real intent of Cisco’s value of “inclusion and diversity” be to ensure that people in that diverse workforce work together cordially and professionally even when they inevitably disagree on certain political, moral or religious questions? It would seem so. In a large multicultural workforce, people need to work together despite political or religious differences. That’s a noble and necessary goal. It’s totalitarian, however, to subject people to “diversity” training and corporate sponsorships that go beyond teaching respect for people to advocacy of what they do in bed.

All employees should treat one another with kindness and respect because they are fellow human beings, not because of their sexual behavior. If people are to be respected simply on the basis of their behavior, then none of us qualify for respect because we have all behaved badly on occasion.

So instead of trying to force all employees to accept any sexual behavior—especially something as controversial as homosexuality—the inclusion and diversity police should be urging us to treat all people with respect simply because we are human beings. That’s all you need to be productive at work anyway.

But as soon as you start telling people from different religious and cultural backgrounds what they must think about homosexuality, you will offend and create conflict andr resentment. As a Christian, I am commanded to respect all people. That’s what I was doing at Cisco. But don’t tell me that I have to respect and celebrate what people do in bed. Don’t tell me that I must violate my conscience or my God in order to make widgets. That’s not only immoral and un-American; it’s manipulative and stupid. How does accepting homosexual behavior have anything to do with job productivity? Are we supposed to have sex at work?

There simply is no business reason to judge my beliefs about sexual behavior or anyone else’s. And even if some corporate nanny could dream up a reason, it would not justify the assault on an employee’s conscience or religion.

Notice that Cisco did not have a problem with my behavior. My job performance was deemed excellent, and I was “inclusive and diverse” by working in a respectful manner with people of all moral, religious and political views.

Cisco had a problem with my thoughts. Although I certainly accepted homosexuals, I committed the thought crime of disagreeing with homosexual behavior and homosexual political goals. So despite all their talk about “inclusion and diversity,” Cisco deemed my thoughts about something irrelevant to the workplace as grounds for immediate exclusion. Do you think they would have excluded me if I had pro-same-sex marriage thoughts? Of course not—that’s an approved view that Cisco actually sponsors (even though they deny it).

But people who don’t accept homosexual behavior don’t have to work at Cisco then!

True, they don’t. But if Cisco or any other company wants to make it a requirement that every employee and vendor personally accept the behavior of homosexuality or homosexual political goals such as same-sex marriage, then tell us directly. Broadcast it to the world. Cisco can’t and won’t because such a requirement would be a clear violation of the religious protections codified in the Civil Rights Act, and it would result in a mass exodus of employees and customers.

Instead, they create an oppressive culture of political correctness under the false banner of “inclusion and diversity” to achieve the same ends. They tell the world that they value and encourage “different perspectives, styles, thoughts, and ideas” while they punish or intimidate into silence people who have “different perspectives, styles, thoughts, and ideas.” While Cisco executives would never admit this, their actions reveal this twisted truth: Cisco values homosexual behavior more than honesty, freedom of religion and freedom of conscience.

Is it the same at your workplace? Are you tired of having to hide your conservative or religious beliefs as if you live in a totalitarian state rather than America? If you continue to cower in silence before an intolerant militant minority, it will only get worse. To paraphrase Edmund Burke, “All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing.” It’s time to do something—speak up.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: cisco; frankturek; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; homotyranny; socalleddiversity; turek
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1 posted on 06/28/2011 9:04:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I don’t suppose they’re talking about the occasional involuntary screwing that just about every employee endures as “part of the job”. :-)


2 posted on 06/28/2011 9:06:43 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Kaslin

If your views were being expressed outside the workplace and you weren’t disruptive, it sounds like you have a good case for religious discrimination. Good luck.


3 posted on 06/28/2011 9:07:17 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Kaslin

The more I see about the government, businesses, everything going so far out, the more I begin to welcome the collapse of it all.


4 posted on 06/28/2011 9:07:34 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Genoa

Not you, but the writer.


5 posted on 06/28/2011 9:08:02 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Kaslin

This poor fellow puts his finger right on the raging hypocrisy of The Left.

The Left encourages freedom of speech and diversity of opinion as long as that speech and opinion is not at odds with what they view as valid.

In other word, they cannot be disagreed with.


6 posted on 06/28/2011 9:08:30 AM PDT by rlmorel (Sometimes, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But not always.)
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To: Kaslin

Sue them to smithereens.


7 posted on 06/28/2011 9:09:07 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Kaslin

George Costanza: [pause] Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorence on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon... you know, cause I’ve worked in a lot of offices, and I tell you, people do that all the time.


8 posted on 06/28/2011 9:10:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Kaslin

Tolerance reaches out to silence another person! Tolerance, diversity, inclusion, how nice. All euphemism for stiff supression of expression and thought.


9 posted on 06/28/2011 9:14:06 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Kaslin

The homofascists aagenda is to destroy normal society and our Government is currently in league with them.........
Time to replace a whole shitload of ignorant non American politicians.............


10 posted on 06/28/2011 9:14:24 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Kaslin

He shouldn’t have been let go or punished at all.

Should he sue if desires to? In a better world, no. In this world, yes.


11 posted on 06/28/2011 9:15:52 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Kaslin

Since the start of June a large poster of a smiling “man” appeared at the entrance to my workplace with the title “Pride” from the company’s GLBT alliance. In over 25 years working for this company I have never seen such a blatantly political message. Not sure what to do without getting targeted for termination by the pervert police.


12 posted on 06/28/2011 9:17:33 AM PDT by Hacklehead (The Tree of Liberty is very thirsty.)
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To: Genoa

I know you didn’t mean me


13 posted on 06/28/2011 9:18:26 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Went thru this at my workplace... This month is LGBT month what ever the heck that means.

I asked the corp info group to “Please quit sending me these offensive emails telling me how great this group of people are and also asked why don’t we celebrate Czech month or German heritage month?”

I was told I was “being intollerant, and my behavior would be let known to HR and my supervisor”.

and sure enough they did.

HR told me to get with my “Government Representative” to get those months added to the federal list of recognized months.

But they never told me how I was being intollerant.


14 posted on 06/28/2011 9:19:07 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: Kaslin

Liberal intolerance against white heterosexual males is rampant.


15 posted on 06/28/2011 9:19:25 AM PDT by y6162
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To: rlmorel

A high school bud of mine worked for a seed company owned by the Sexauer group. The running joke was that they were so busy thet when people called asking about Sexauer products, they would reply “Sex hour? Hell, we don’t even get a 10 minute coffee break.”


16 posted on 06/28/2011 9:19:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Kaslin

We need to totally boycott all companies, institutions and individuals, that use Cisco equipment.


17 posted on 06/28/2011 9:21:27 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

That will be your last post on the internet then.


18 posted on 06/28/2011 9:24:42 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: Kaslin

HR the haven of cowards. I have never dealt with someone from that department, 21 years of experience with 6 companies, that had any courage. Wait there was one but the rest sucked in general.


19 posted on 06/28/2011 9:25:29 AM PDT by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: stuartcr
We need to totally boycott all companies, institutions and individuals, that use Cisco equipment.

You would go hungry and cold since most every company uses a cisco device. I'm a IT consultant and 99.99% of my clients use cisco.

20 posted on 06/28/2011 9:26:55 AM PDT by ParityErr (It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.)
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To: Kaslin
"inclusion and diversity"

It's like Orwell's 1984 doublespeak. "Inclusion and diversity" really means exclusion and censorship. The author is guilty of independent thoughts and communications. These activities present a real threat to their LGBT indoctrination agenda. So they had to fire him.

21 posted on 06/28/2011 9:27:55 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Kaslin

All the time but I’m single and I work at home.


22 posted on 06/28/2011 9:28:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The more I see about the government, businesses, everything going so far out, the more I begin to welcome the collapse of it all.

I don't know if I would welcome it, due to the hardship that it will initially bring to many good and decent people, but I am looking forward to seeing the system reset. I just want to see justice done for once.

23 posted on 06/28/2011 9:29:36 AM PDT by paladin1_dcs (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Vigilanteman

LOL...I can only imagine the humor that would come from being an employee of a company with a name like that...


24 posted on 06/28/2011 9:30:34 AM PDT by rlmorel (Sometimes, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But not always.)
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To: Rightly Biased

At a large corporate employer of mine, every month except July was wholly or partly some hypenated American (if that) celebration. We used to call July the only American month left.


25 posted on 06/28/2011 9:30:37 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Cashmere?


26 posted on 06/28/2011 9:30:52 AM PDT by GQuagmire ('Don't Piss The Lady Off')
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To: Kaslin
But people who don’t accept homosexual behavior don’t have to work at Cisco then.

It's getting that way in the U. S. military too. I almost barfed up my lunch when we had sit through the DADT repeal briefing last month.

27 posted on 06/28/2011 9:31:15 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: Kaslin

“Why then is corporate America obsessed with training about sex?”

• The individuals populating corporate America now grew up with a pre mature attention to sex and never outgrew their adolescent fixation on sex-nothing took its place for them
• Schools in America are making sure no one gets out of there with enough intellectual prowess or emotional maturity to comprehend that sex does not belong ‘front and center’ in life.
• The MSM is making sure that these brain-dead mental dwarfs are saturated night and day with the ‘race/gender/sex’ cocktail (even in the news)
• The people you are talking about are pathologically HOOKED on trauma and sensation (addicted is a better word)
• NOTHING in the breeding or experience of these people conveys propriety or modesty

I could make the list longer, but you know what I mean.


28 posted on 06/28/2011 9:31:43 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t remember anything in any of my employee handbooks about sex at work.

However they all went to great lengths to tell me that I couldn’t have a firearm, knife, or anything that could be used as a weapon.

Hrmmm yea come to think of it they must have been written by liberals.


29 posted on 06/28/2011 9:31:56 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Kaslin

It has aways been my experience that in any work place there will be more than one woman that thinks part of her job is to bang the boss and other employees. I had one nephew that left a good paying job because of his female boss expecting him to work on her after hours. Same thing applies to a man, always more than one that thinks it is his duty to try and play grab ass with his fellow workers. But the worst one is the on that thinks everyone wants to hear his/her nasty joke of the day.


30 posted on 06/28/2011 9:34:39 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I’m only 41 years old, and to be honest, I can’t see the ‘world’ lasting until I’m my grandparents age (80’s/90’s). There’s just no way. Jesus, I know it’s in our Father’s time, not ours, but please come sooner rather than later. The degradation, the desecration, the inhumanity is apparent to one as low as I, then it must reek in Heaven.

Come quickly, thus our days be shortened.


31 posted on 06/28/2011 9:37:11 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder (I sure hope there is a New Morning in America soon. All this hope and change is leaving me depressed)
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To: Kaslin; Genoa

No, I think Kaslin should sue, too. I can see the headline now:

“New Plaintiff joins Cisco Discrimination Suit”


32 posted on 06/28/2011 9:42:16 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: FewsOrange

Yeah, but at least we’ll show them.


33 posted on 06/28/2011 9:44:32 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

>>We need to totally boycott all companies, institutions and individuals, that use Cisco equipment.<<

That would be — pretty much everybody.

Look, this was wrong but Cisco is a private enterprise that can have whatever moral compass they want.

Almost all us white heterosexual Christian males have been in the cross-hairs for 20+ years. It ain’t fair and we try to strike back, but that’s life for now.


34 posted on 06/28/2011 9:44:40 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The more I see about the government, businesses, everything going so far out, the more I begin to welcome the collapse of it all.

I find that a surprisingly large number of conservatives do NOT understand that there are many corporations that are as great a source of our corruption as any Marxist is. Many have long-ago crossed from "free enterprise" into "rent-seeking."

35 posted on 06/28/2011 9:46:29 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Kaslin
I have been following this story and looked all over the web for the name of the homosexual manager who had him fired.

does anyone know his name?

36 posted on 06/28/2011 9:46:57 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: ParityErr

Yeah, but we’ll have done the right thing.


37 posted on 06/28/2011 9:47:19 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: campaignPete R-CT

LOL


38 posted on 06/28/2011 9:47:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Hello, Cisco tech support? I'm having a problem with my network and I need some help. I'm trying to connect my network and the cables just don't fit together. Here's a picture of the cables:

What do you mean that they won't connect because they are both male? Does your HR department and the LGBT purity of political opinion subcommittee know about your attitude?

39 posted on 06/28/2011 9:48:13 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: Kaslin

Catch them off guard by asking: “By gay do you mean the inserting of one man’s penis into another man’s anus or do you mean happy?”

I’ve found that they don’t even like the sound of it accurately described!


40 posted on 06/28/2011 9:49:39 AM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Karl Childers (Sling Blade 1996))
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To: DBrow

Another thread today had this quote:

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.

Gilbert K. Chesterton

Last week Hannity was blathering about “I don’t care what people do in their bedrooms” in regard to the NY marriage law. I got so mad I turned him off.

Chesterton’s quote has Hannity nailed.

Tolerance is NOT opened ended, a blank check, in ANY society. Some actions are INTOLERABLE. “Tolerance” has become a mantra for those without convictions or a knowledge of truth who sit and stare at their belly buttons all day.

/rant


41 posted on 06/28/2011 9:50:48 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
No, I think Kaslin should sue, too. I can see the headline now:

“New Plaintiff joins Cisco Discrimination Suit”

I can see it now:

On what purpose did you sue?

Me: campaignPete R-CT told me to

42 posted on 06/28/2011 9:51:44 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: FewsOrange

Hahahahahahaha...the laws of unintended consequences...

Funny. People excoriate Apple, Disney and now Cisco, but Microsoft, GM, Boeing and nearly every other corporation under the sun and under the American flag is a complete and willing prisoner to this bullcrap.

It all started with organizations like the Rainbow Coalition that made their bones (and generated income for Jessie Jackson’s private plane) by shaking down companies for their supposed racial hiring shortcomings.

Companies would just pay tribute to the organization to avoid protesters on the sidewalk outside headquarters, and that turned into this ridiculous frenzy of seeing what company could bend over further backwards to show they weren’t intolerant racists.

Now, it is to show they aren’t intolerant homophobic, sexist racists.


43 posted on 06/28/2011 9:52:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (Sometimes, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But not always.)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

Bill


44 posted on 06/28/2011 9:52:48 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: KarlInOhio

POST OF THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

45 posted on 06/28/2011 9:54:58 AM PDT by rlmorel (Sometimes, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But not always.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Tolerance is the virtue of a man that respects others’ convictions.


46 posted on 06/28/2011 9:55:24 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: rlmorel

I went to the CISCO site to see how they peddle their systems. This page was interesting: http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/automating-cisco-ucs-management-with-windows-powershell/ If you know about the guy getting canned for his work outside the company (because he doesn’t think homosexual behavior is all it’s cracked up to be) this particular piece really shouts a different sort of message than CISCO imagines they’d been doing. Actually makes me want to AVOID systems where CISCO is involved. There could be a lot of blow-back. Their stock should start tanking soon (again, as usual ~ the company is not really well strung together).


47 posted on 06/28/2011 9:59:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BwanaNdege

My new tagline. Thank you.


48 posted on 06/28/2011 9:59:41 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Kaslin; All

Publicly-held companies tend towards political correctness. They tend to only seek to protect their image in the eye of the public to avoid stirring up public anger against themselves. Publicly-held companies will very often undertake causes and projects that will curry favor with the general public. However, they will also put off and hide problems, sometimes for decades, since the next quarterly report is all that really matters. They will always attempt to curry favor with politicians as it is an easy way to make money without having to do the work of real production. The concept of “right and wrong” is purely relative for publicly-held companies, since their only guide to right and wrong is the current law.

Privately-held companies reflect the values of their owners, good, bad or indifferent.


49 posted on 06/28/2011 10:03:09 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Trying to rebuild America on pure conservative principles)
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To: muawiyah

Were you speaking from a technical point of view?

I work in IT, but only have peripheral dealings with Cisco. I do know that my brother, who has to deal with them directly in installation, configuration troubleshooting and repair absolutely detests, with a white-hot intensity, having to deal with them directly or indirectly through their website.

He says once their systems are set up, they work well, but the documentation of their arcane configurations is putrid, and dealing with their technical support can drive your blood pressure through the roof.


50 posted on 06/28/2011 10:06:18 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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