Skip to comments.Dangerous Disaffection (The GOP canít afford to lose blue-collar whites)
Posted on 06/28/2011 2:30:06 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Research shows that blue-collar whites take the political positions they do because of their self-perception. They know they are less skilled than others; this makes them friendlier to protection from competition, whether the competition comes from trade abroad or immigrant workers at home. They depend more on public services to provide public order (which is why they support police so much) and economic stability (which is what middle-class entitlements support). Above all, they are risk-averse and proud. They fear the future as much as or more than they welcome it; one misstep and their whole world can collapse. This means they are wary of sudden change, whether it comes from the left or the right. And their dignity and pride mean they resist attempts to tell them what to do or treat them like pawns in someone elses game, whether those attempts come from big business, big government, or big anything.
Ronald Reagan understood all of this decades ago. Even after the Goldwater debacle of 1964, he knew that Americans had voted against Goldwater because he had been cast as a radical. Reagan told the readers of National Review that human nature resists change and goes over backward to avoid radical change, and advised: Time now for the soft sell to prove that our radicalism was an optical illusion. He spent his entire political career showing how American conservative principles were not scary, but rather the simple, proven ideas that make Americans unique.
Reagans rhetoric always made the typical American feel valued and special.....
His vision of a new Republican party included the educated and the uneducated, the working class as well as the upper class......
...Blue-collar whites believe the president and the Democrats do not have their best interests at heart....
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
However they are afraid and vulnerable, so....
Barack Obama, the Democratic Party, Unions and the MSM are going to do everything they can to make the word "conservatism" scare nervous voters away from the GOP; the Left is already saying our candidates are nuts, mean-spirited, racists, rich, selfish people; that Republicans across the country are blocking tax increases and demanding cuts in entitlements and services and hurting the economy on purpose to make Obama look bad. AND THEY ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE -- GIVING SAME TALKING POINTS. They have not dropped the ridiculous charge--drumbeat--that the Tea Party is extreme and hateful and racist.
So, what do we do to counter this 24/7 attack on good Americans who love their country and want what is best for everyone?
I hope on this thread, we can compile a lot of good ideas and offer good suggestions (ON ALL THE CANDIDATES). If you have a lot of information PLEASE LINK to it and not flood this thread. PLEASE avoid posting photographs just this time. Thank you! I am really looking forward to reading your thoughts.
I will begin with a suggestion (Please offer yours and not attack mine).
Rick Perry has been giving a talk on the 10th Amendment, explaining how when Federal controls are loosened on states, those state economies take off as businesses gear up, that jobs will come and the teachers will be paid and the roads will be built, etc.
Rick Perry's common sense 10th Amendment - power back to the states solution to take our country back - state by state: "Don't spend all the money! -- Have a fair and predictable tax and regulatory policy! -- Have a legal system that does not allow for over suing and makes [lawsuit] loser pay!"
I think this is a perfect appeal to the country -- to an electorate who does not follow this as closely as we do. Of course Perry's ideas are broader than this but that is the essence (and an essence is like a sound-bite).
As Rick Perry says (in the link) "Texas has led but its been a hell of a struggle against Washington D.C. Government must trust the people but this administration does not trust the people."
I think “blue collar whites” are a lock for any R except Mitty, other than the unionized ones.
I sense we are in a period of a conservative surge. People are starting to see Obama and the Democrats for who they really are.
If blue collar workers allow themselves to be scammed by the frauds in the White House and the DNC, including the unions, they will deserve the poverty it brings them. I think most blue collar Americans are smarter than that. Another four years of this lunacy, and blue collar Americans will moving down to the permanently unemployed, welfare Americans status. Their bankers will make out like bandits though.
“Texas has led but its been a hell of a struggle against Washington D.C. Government must trust the people but this administration does not trust the people.”
He only says that because he is currently a governor. Were he to be POTUS, he would see the world through different eyes. NO ONE that is really a big States Rights person would be interested in being POTUS. If the 10th was followed the POTUS would be a lame office with little power.
People don’t seek high office to destroy the power the office gives. I know this is a cynical view.
Blue collar whites vote their pocketbook. When they are doing good, they voted for Reagan. [Reagan Democrats] When they were doing bad, they voted for Obama. Are they better off since Reagan, hardly, too many jobs exported and too few jobs happening.
This guy sure is a condescending little prig, I think I prefer to be identified as balls to the wall, wild rednecks, of God, Guns, & Guts, than this guys description, which makes me think more of suburbanite office people and mid management.
I’m pretty sure that I have read that no one is more Republican than the white working class male.
If blue-collar whites are dumb enough to believe the gravy train has no end, then they deserves what’s coming to them and their children.
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Do they exist?
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Do they exist?
>>Dangerous Disaffection (The GOP cant afford to lose blue-collar whites)<<
I assume they mean the non-union ones. The union ones are either already democrat and will stay that way, or they have a head on their shoulders and hold their noses just to pay union dues - and are as strongly against democrats as a lot of the rest of us are. BTW, I’m sorta between the two groups. I usually wear a Hawaiian shirt to work so I guess that makes me a “non gay colorful collar” worker.
Do they exist?
Yes, three of them spent a couple of hours at my house doing some electrical work this morning. It's not just manufacturing employees who fit that description.
If the Republican party thinks they can slip in a big government Republican, they are surely mistaken.
People are downright mad about being played for fools and they're as mad at the GOP socialists as they are at the Democratic Party socialists, if not more.
They see what's going on in congress today and just how weak the big government RINOs are against the Democratic Party...the little game of footsie they're playing under the table makes them sick to their stomachs. What this shows them is just how aligned and sold out the RINOs are with and to the Democratic Party and they want no part of it.
It is wholly disgusting and they look forward to seeing many of the RINOs voted out. They're not playing games any more. The time for playful strategy is over. People are now serious and are demanding real conservative action and punishment for the weak sell-outs.
Spoken like a true 'ivory tower elite'. Me less skilled than either these 'researchers' or the 'journalist' who spouts their swill? I think not!
Listen Henry Olsen, and listen well. I am most emphatically *NOT* impressed at where it happened to be that went to be indoctrinated into 'Marxism 101' and how long it took you to achieve said indoctrination. I own all as my equal, under God, but nobody as my better, and that definitely includes you, poseur...
It is pretty clear that someone is concerned enough about the current candidates to cause them to start with the “you must not offend this group, you know they would really prefer to be libtard voters”. For the life of me, I can’t decide which is more despicable, the looney left or the elitist RINO’s.
Candidates have to work behind the scenes. They have to make it mandatory that the networks air interviews with their surrogates to get the candidate interview. (i.e. The Carvel, Begalla, Ploof, Axelrod shows). Shape the message and feed the media only what you want them to have. The media and the administration have overplayed their hand and can’t help but make it easier to pick them off as the election approaches. They need to be challenged in the trenches. Personalize the campaign. Campaign surrogates need to be out there asking “What happened to our money, our freedom, our retirement, our property”? What foreign Governments did Obama prop up with our money? Answer questions with accusations. Keep conversations on our parameters, not theirs. Make Obama deny being a criminal and an enemy of America. (so what if you have to fire a few surrogates to appear reasonable, the accusation is out there and they have to deny it.) Is this underhanded, look who is in the White House.
Good points in your post, and what the blue collar whites are coming to really understand is that are not less skilled, but that they are the ones who have been put into competition with some of the world's cheapest labor (at various skill levels) while most elites and others are protecting themselves and their livelihood from such competition.
Are you better off now than you were four years ago?
Obama will be toast.
I have been looking for a good post-able graph of the white, blue collar, male vote and haven’t found one, but so far I have found several things which seem to identify them as the most conservative of all voters.
The Democrats love taxes and they can always be pounded on that. Reagan did it, very successfully. With so many 'blue collar' Americans suffering under Obama I don't see Republicans losing to him in 2012 based on the votes of 'blue collar' Americans striving to get ahead - or stay afloat, as the case may be. The successful Republican candidate will make it crystal clear that helping the business community create jobs (because government can't do it) by lowering taxes and recalling some onerous regulations enacted under the Obama regime will be their major priority. Most feel that Black voters are impossible to pry from Obama and he may get the majority of Latino votes, again. The hard-core left has nowhere else to go but to Obama, so he has them, too, but all these groups (not all actually vote) are still a minority, albeit a large one (about 35%). The 2012 Republican candidate will need to grab a majority of the 'blue collar' vote discussed in the NRO piece, that is fairly obvious. I believe that he or she will get that vote, as much due to Obama's killing of the economy as the fact that any Republican challenger can point to the economic success of other Republican administrations and that while Democrats always want to raise your taxes (pretending they only want to tax the rich), Republicans will lower your taxes.
In the interest of honesty, I have to state that I support Sarah Palin as the 2012 GOP presidential candidate. However, this thread isn't about individual candidates but an overall strategy to defeat the socialist Democrat party as they prepare to try and lie their way into another term for the Kenyan Marxist, Barack Hussein Obama. As we all agree, they must be defeated.
Most blue collar whites won’t get along with socially pathological middle class employees in corporate-government offices. The only way to get our votes is to show us a good man—one who has no allegiance to communist China, American feminists or sexually confused leaders of any kind.
Politics! Friends, prepare, and stop buying!
BTW, those very few of us “blue collar” men still living are far more skilled than any other group in the population. We can fix, build or manufacture just about anything, but there are many regulations against men at work—mostly local regulations. And we’re not going to pay business-killing flooring costs to some lazy main street landlord/landlady or get any loan from a thieving bank.
Continue to your economic consequences of political correctness, then we’ll see about rebuilding this country for you.
The demonic Obama doesn’t (and can’t) even follow through with promises to help American workers whose work is in trouble. There’s no reason the working redneck (of almost any color, though it’s hard to get black ones to leave the plantation) should go for Barack Obama in 2012. He is not trustworthy.
I wish more posters would have responded to my first post — request.
I was hoping to learn something.
Blue collar Whites will be a big factor in our win next year.
And your country will be ruined along with them.
It is probably impossible for the GOP to become American worker friendly.
So, which is it? American workers, or Chinese workers?
Neither major party cares.
How do you propose we prevent blue collar workers from participating in the liberal destruction of America?
Some protectionism has to be on the table. Another good idea would be to break up the national unions. I wonder if blue collar workers would go for the latter. How many would go along with right to work laws?
Conservatism will re-invigorate our economy, manufacturing, energy production, and that growth will put people back to work at all levels. How can that not appeal to blue collar workers?