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Vanity: GOP Needs Rubio on the Ticket in '12. Is He Eligible?
June 29, 2011 | no dems

Posted on 06/29/2011 3:37:49 AM PDT by no dems

The GOP needs Marco Rubio on the Ticket in 2012 as VP. If we do not carry Florida and if we do not take some of the Hispanic vote away from Obama nation-wide, he might very well be reelected. We need enough votes to prevent the Chicago Thug-style Politics from stealing the Election. Don't think it can't happen. Remember how the Kennedys stole the 1960 Election from Nixon.

The Question then arises: IS MARCO RUBIO CONSTITUTIONALLY ELIGIBLE? The answer is emphatically YES! So is Bobby Jindal. There are many authorities I could cite but I'll use one to conserve space and prevent boring you.

In "A view of the Constitution of the United States of America" By William Rawle (Page 80) it states: “….every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of The Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity….”

Marco Rubio was born in Miami, FL; Bobby Jindal was born in Baton Rouge, LA. The issue is closed.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; birther; florida; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; nbc; no; notrunning; rubio; rubio2012; yes
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1 posted on 06/29/2011 3:37:53 AM PDT by no dems
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To: no dems

Rubio won’t be on the ticket. Listen to him.


2 posted on 06/29/2011 3:40:39 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: no dems

Rubio has made it VERY clear that he will not be on the ticket. I believe him.


3 posted on 06/29/2011 3:40:54 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: no dems

We don’t need Rubio on the ticket in 2012.

The guy has all of five months of political experience outside of the FL house of representatives—whether or not he’s a natural born citizen.

Do you want us to be even worse affirmative action promoters than the Democrats were with Obama?


4 posted on 06/29/2011 3:42:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: no dems
prevent boring you

Too late!

5 posted on 06/29/2011 3:42:54 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: no dems

I love Marco as well as Christy....


6 posted on 06/29/2011 3:45:53 AM PDT by cherry
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To: 9YearLurker

By November 2012, he will have 22 Months in the U.S. Senate. Let’s see, that’s 22 Months more than Herman Cain will have. Affirmative Action has nothing to do with it; it’s called “politics”. We can keep putting crusty, old, white men on the ticket (like McCain and Dole) and keep getting our butts handed to us every 4 years. Wake up and smell the coffee; the 2012 Election will NOT be determined by the Independents. It will be determined by the Hispanic vote. It was the Hispanic vote that put Harry Reid back in the Senate for 6 more years.

BTW, WHO IS YOUR CHOICE FOR VP?


7 posted on 06/29/2011 3:49:29 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks no dems.


8 posted on 06/29/2011 3:50:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: no dems

Milt Romney is not eligible.

THAT is why the DNC wants HIM.


9 posted on 06/29/2011 3:52:38 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: no dems

Why will the election be determined by the 7% Hispanic vote and not the other 93% of the electorate?

Palin, who would be the candidate with the best chance to win, is herself youngish and will do just fine with a white guy on her ticket if that’s who she chooses.


10 posted on 06/29/2011 3:57:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: no dems

Oh, and BTW, Cain’s not going to be anyone’s VP either.


11 posted on 06/29/2011 3:57:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: no dems
In "A view of the Constitution of the United States of America" By William Rawle (Page 80) it states: “….every person.........The issue is closed.

And because some clown wrote his opinion in a book this is suppose to mean J.S. to me????

12 posted on 06/29/2011 4:06:59 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: no dems
Absolutely! At the time in history when America is waking up to the problems given to us by the pandering of the left and the TEA party is calling for strong, conservative candidates we should definitely start a pander program of our own!

Do I need a sarcasm tag?

Look, most elections today are decided with 60% voter participation. Why? Because a significant number of Americans think their vote doesn't really matter... choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. You want to win? Put up a strong conservative America's heartland can vote FOR... don't pander to MSM stereotypes or moderate the message for the mushy middle and hope the opponent is bad enough to be voted against.

13 posted on 06/29/2011 4:14:27 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: 9YearLurker; All
Actually, the Hispanic vote in 2008 was 9% of the total vote. If you think that's not enough to change the Election; check this out:
Hispanics Provided The Margin of Victory in These Four States in 2008 - In Colorado, Obama’s Hispanic support accounted for 12.4% of the electorate, while Obama only won by 7%. In Florida, Obama’s Hispanic support accounted for 7.9% of the electorate, while Obama only won by 2%. In Nevada, Obama’s Hispanic support accounted for 12.4% of the electorate, while Obama only won by 12%. In New Mexico, Obama’s Hispanic support accounted for 28.3% of the electorate, while Obama only won by 15%.

Now, what were you saying?
14 posted on 06/29/2011 4:14:36 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

Then, get off your a** and check it out for yourself NurdlyPeon.


15 posted on 06/29/2011 4:16:10 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

“In “A view of the Constitution of the United States of America” By William Rawle (Page 80) it states: “….every person.........The issue is closed.
And because some clown wrote his opinion in a book this is suppose to mean J.S. to me????”

This has caused me to do a “little” bit of thinking:), I assume that any candidate for President or vice president would be vetted by congress and the press (with the exception of Obama)to confirm eligibility. But, third in line is speaker of the house and there is not a birth requirement to be a member of the house, or speaker for that matter. So, if we should ever have to go to the third in line and that person should happen to not be a native born citizen, then would we just skip to the fourth in line, etc, etc? Maybe The Speaker should have to meet presidental requirements concerning birth?


16 posted on 06/29/2011 4:16:14 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: pgyanke

See my Post #14.


17 posted on 06/29/2011 4:17:16 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: no dems

No... we know who we need and SHE will choose her own running mate.

LLS


18 posted on 06/29/2011 4:19:50 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: palmer

Well, let me say this, at the risk of boring you even more:

If the GOP does not carry Florida, we will not occupy the White House in January 2013. Marco Rubio would guarantee that we carry Florida.


19 posted on 06/29/2011 4:21:50 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: LibLieSlayer; All

Please see my Post #19.


20 posted on 06/29/2011 4:23:22 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: JaneNC

No he won’t and he is too smart to try-—he knows he is not the child of two citizen parents and wouldn’t want to stir up another Obama-like eligibility controversy.

Beyond that, Cuba claims him as a dual citizen-—another complication.

Marco is doing a good job as a senator and he is wise enough to know that he should stay there.

I was one of the first people in Tampa to endorse Marco over Suntan Charlie, I’ve been following him for years, and I know what a good American and constitutionalist he is.


21 posted on 06/29/2011 4:23:43 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: no dems

What part of “no” isn`t being understood? Rubio has repeatedly said he`s not running for POTUS in 2012.


22 posted on 06/29/2011 4:23:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: no dems

You bring up valid points, but his answer up until now is still “no.” Pursuing this is pointless.


23 posted on 06/29/2011 4:27:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: no dems

No thank you. We will carry Florida.

LLS


24 posted on 06/29/2011 4:28:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: no dems

Clearly, pandering is the answer.


25 posted on 06/29/2011 4:32:39 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: ScottinVA; All
What part of “no” isn`t being understood? Rubio has repeatedly said he`s not running for POTUS in 2012.

Well, my mama used to say: "A wise man is open to changing his mind, but, a fool never will." Marco is no fool.
26 posted on 06/29/2011 4:36:03 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
No thank you. We will carry Florida.
Wanna put some money on that LLS?
27 posted on 06/29/2011 4:36:56 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: no dems

He is too young. He needs to be seasoned.

Let him raise hell on the floor of the Senate for a few years and toughen up in the skirmish line. Let him gain strength and allies and contributors.

His day will come, but not in ‘12


28 posted on 06/29/2011 4:46:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: 9YearLurker

Rubio gets it when it comes to government getting out of the way. He has some good ideas on the economy. A Perry/Rubio ticket would slay the dragon once and for all. With Palin as energy secretary we’ll be drill baby drilling in no time.


29 posted on 06/29/2011 4:53:50 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: no dems
I don't think Marco Rubio is a viable VP or presidential candidate.

Those who believe he is, erroneously assume that “Hispanics” are a monolithic voting bloc; this is simply not the case.

A Cuban, a Mexican and an Argentine are about as similar as an Irishman, an Englishman and a Scotsman -not a whole lot.

With the exception of Cubans and some Nicaraguans (who fled the Sandinistas) Hispanics tend to overwhelmingly vote Dem.

I don't see Mexicans, Puerto Ricans or any other large non-Cuban Hispanic bloc voting for a Miami Cuban, simply because he is not perceived as one of “them”.

30 posted on 06/29/2011 4:59:11 AM PDT by CubaninMiami
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To: Scanian

If the two American parent rule doesn’t apply to obama than it shouldn’t apply to Rubio. Let the rats bring it on. If they fight it then obama is immediately proven to have been ineligible.


31 posted on 06/29/2011 4:59:33 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: no dems

Wrong. Natural Born requires both parents to be citizens and birth to be under the jurisdiction of the US.

Rubio’s parents were not both US citizens at the time of his birth.

Jindal’s parents were both citizens of India at the time of his birth.

I like both Rubio and Jindal, but neither are eligible to be POTUS due to requirements of the Constitution.


32 posted on 06/29/2011 5:00:40 AM PDT by octex
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To: octex

Do you have a source for that?


33 posted on 06/29/2011 5:01:30 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: jersey117

Rubio is ineligible.


34 posted on 06/29/2011 5:01:50 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: jersey117

Two wrongs have never made a right and I’m thankful that Rubio realizes that and is staying out of the fray.


35 posted on 06/29/2011 5:03:59 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: no dems

Crusty old white men like Ronald Reagan? That would work for me.


36 posted on 06/29/2011 5:09:39 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: no dems

John Hoeven will be the VP nominee in my opinion. The lynchpin in this election is not Florida, but the upper Midwest, specifically Minnesota.

John Hoeven will be very helpful in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Iowa.


37 posted on 06/29/2011 5:14:44 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: no dems

WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER INEXPERIENCED CHILD

I am a 100% Rubio supporter - but let the poor kid grow up first before we condemn him to office


38 posted on 06/29/2011 5:16:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: no dems

Fl is GOP in 2012 no matter who wins the nomination. It is wrapped up.


39 posted on 06/29/2011 5:18:56 AM PDT by ilgipper ( political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell)))
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To: octex
Wrong. Natural Born requires both parents to be citizens and birth to be under the jurisdiction of the US.

Bullshit.

Vattel's qualifications for a magical third form of citizenship has never been put into the Constitution or the Federal Code, and has been shot down by the Supreme Court on numerous occassions.

There are two, and only two, forms of citizenship in the United States. One that is established at birth, and one that is established through the naturalization process.

Would you like to see that from a Supreme Court decision?

40 posted on 06/29/2011 5:19:06 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: no dems

The GOP will win FL in 2012 without Rubio on the ticket. The GOP will take a higher percentage of the Hispanic vote 2012 than in 2008 even without Rubio on the thicket.

Rubio would meke an excellent VP candidate, but apparently he rightly does not want to bail on his first Senate term after 2 years. Be happy for that as we need solid Senators too.


41 posted on 06/29/2011 5:20:34 AM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: no dems

Count me in. I think I am qualified: Parents both American Citizens at time of birth but here is the catch: I was not born in the United States, born Camp Casey, Korea - United States Army Hospital.


42 posted on 06/29/2011 5:21:42 AM PDT by seoul62
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To: no dems
Sorry but ALL of my money is going to Sarah and other Conservative candidates. We have some truly great Conservatives running in Mississippi and they need help against the machine gop. My businesses have been devastated by the BP spill and obamunism... my money is tight and I have many fights to finance.

Nothing in this life is guaranteed but some things are more probable than others. We will find out soon enough. I can tell you this... bachmann is not the answer and neither is romney. Why don't you go over to E-Trade and bet your money... my money is going to try and help save America... and of course my support for FR with my $$$. While I like you and respect you... you are far down the list of importance at this time.

LLS

43 posted on 06/29/2011 5:22:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: no dems

Marco Rubio would guarantee that we carry Florida.

There are no guarantees in politics.


44 posted on 06/29/2011 5:27:33 AM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: no dems; rxsid; LucyT; hoosiermama
"every person born within the United States"

kinda begs the question of... Why did the FOUNDING FATHERS have to EXEMPT themselves??... from the NBC Requirement.

45 posted on 06/29/2011 5:30:20 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: no dems

>he 2012 Election will NOT be determined by the Independents. It will be determined by the Hispanic vote.

LOL No, it will not. That like saying it will be decided by the black vote or the homo vote or any other vote that makes up the mismash of identity politics in America.

It will be decided by the vast number of crusty old white folks - as you so artfully put it - that vote democrat.


46 posted on 06/29/2011 5:31:27 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: no dems

>Now, what were you saying?

That GOP voters did not come out in great numbers to vote for McCain you blind donkey - put up a strong conservative and watch the numbers fly


47 posted on 06/29/2011 5:34:08 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: no dems

LLS is correct - We are taking Florida big & nothing that you have posted is going to change that. - save your money son


48 posted on 06/29/2011 5:36:46 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: no dems
Rubio won't be on the ticket. He's only just gotten into the Senate.

Is he eligible? Yes.

49 posted on 06/29/2011 5:38:44 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Some here say "no" but precedent says otherwise.)
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To: jersey117

With a Perry-Rubio ticket we’ll have full amnesty and the GOP will never win another election.

No thanks!


50 posted on 06/29/2011 5:39:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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