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Jewish Dems losing faith in Obama
Politico ^ | 06/29/11 | Ben Smith

Posted on 06/29/2011 1:29:28 PM PDT by MissesBush

David Ainsman really began to get worried about President Barack Obama’s standing with his fellow Jewish Democrats when a recent dinner with his wife and two other couples — all Obama voters in 2008 — nearly turned into a screaming match.

Ainsman, a prominent Democratic lawyer and Pittsburgh Jewish community leader, was trying to explain that Obama had just been offering Israel a bit of “tough love” in his May 19 speech on the Arab Spring. His friends disagreed — to say the least.

One said he had the sense that Obama “took the opportunity to throw Israel under the bus.” Another, who swore he wasn’t getting his information from the mutually despised Fox News, admitted he’d lost faith in the president.

If several dozen interviews with POLITICO are any indication, a similar conversation is taking place in Jewish communities across the country. Obama’s speech last month seems to have crystallized the doubts many pro-Israel Democrats had about Obama in 2008 in a way that could, on the margins, cost the president votes and money in 2012 and will not be easy to repair. (See also: President Obama's Middle East speech: Details complicate 'simple' message)

“It’s less something specific than that these incidents keep on coming,” said Ainsman.

The immediate controversy sparked by the speech was Obama’s statement that Israel should embrace the country’s 1967 borders, with “land swaps,” as a basis for peace talks. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu seized on the first half of that phrase and the threat of a return to what Israelis sometimes refer to as “Auschwitz borders.” (Related: Obama defends border policy)

Obama’s Jewish allies stressed the second half: that land swaps would — as American negotiators have long contemplated — give Israel security in its narrow middle, and the deal would give the country international legitimacy and normalcy.

But the noisy fray after the speech mirrored any number of smaller controversies. Politically hawkish Jews and groups such as the Republican Jewish Coalition and the Emergency Committee for Israel pounded Obama in news releases. White House surrogates and staffers defended him, as did the plentiful American Jews who have long wanted the White House to lean harder on Israel’s conservative government.

Based on the conversations with POLITICO, it’s hard to resist the conclusion that some kind of tipping point has been reached.

Most of those interviewed were center-left American Jews and Obama supporters — and many of them Democratic donors. On some core issues involving Israel, they’re well to the left of Netanyahu and many Americans: They refer to the “West Bank,” not to “Judea and Samaria,” fervently supported the Oslo peace process and Israel’s unilateral withdrawal from Gaza and believe in the urgency of creating a Palestinian state. (Arena: Are Jewish voters still pro-Obama?)

But they are also fearful for Israel at a moment of turmoil in a hostile region when the moderate Palestinian Authority is joining forces with the militantly anti-Israel Hamas.

“It’s a hot time, because Israel is isolated in the world and, in particular, with the Obama administration putting pressure on Israel,” said Rabbi Neil Cooper, leader of Temple Beth Hillel-Beth El in Philadelphia’s Main Line suburbs, who recently lectured his large, politically connected congregation on avoiding turning Israel into a partisan issue.

Some of these traditional Democrats now say, to their own astonishment, that they’ll consider voting for a Republican in 2012. And many of those who continue to support Obama said they find themselves constantly on the defensive in conversations with friends.

“I’m hearing a tremendous amount of skittishness from pro-Israel voters who voted for Obama and now are questioning whether they did the right thing or not,” said Betsy Sheerr, the former head of an abortion-rights-supporting, pro-Israel PAC in Philadelphia, who said she continues to support Obama, with only mild reservations. “I’m hearing a lot of ‘Oh, if we’d only elected Hillary instead.’”

Even Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who spoke to POLITICO to combat the story line of Jewish defections, said she’d detected a level of anxiety in a recent visit to a senior center in her South Florida district.

“They wanted some clarity on the president’s view,” she said. “I answered their questions and restored some confidence that maybe was a little shaky, [rebutted] misinformation and the inaccurate reporting about what was said.”

Wasserman Schultz and other top Democrats say the storm will pass. (Related: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Jewish voters will stick with Obama)

They point out to anyone who will listen that beyond the difficult personal relationship of Obama and Netanyahu, beyond a tense, stalled peace process, there’s a litany of good news for supporters of Israel: Military cooperation is at an all-time high; Obama has supplied Israel with a key missile defense system; the U.S. boycotted an anti-racism conference seen as anti-Israel; and America is set to spend valuable international political capital beating back a Palestinian independence declaration at the United Nations in September.

The qualms that many Jewish Democrats express about Obama date back to his emergence onto the national scene in 2007. Though he had warm relations with Chicago’s Jewish community, he had also been friends with leading Palestinian activists, unusual in the Democratic establishment. And though he seemed to be trying to take a conventionally pro-Israel stand, he was a novice at the complicated politics of the America-Israel relationship, and his sheer inexperience showed at times.

At the 2007 AIPAC Policy Conference, Obama professed his love for Israel but then seemed, - to some who were there for his informal talk - to betray a kind of naivete about the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians: “The biggest enemy” he said, using the same rhetoric he applied to American politics, was “not just terrorists, it’s not just Hezbollah, it’s not just Hamas — it’s also cynicism.”

At the next year’s AIPAC conference, he again botched the conflict’s code, committing himself to an “undivided Jerusalem” and then walking it back the next day.

Those doubts and gaffes lingered, even for many of the majority who supported him.

“There’s an inclination in the community to not trust this president’s gut feel on Israel and every time he sets out on a path that’s troubling you do get this ‘ouch’ reaction from the Jewish Community because they’re distrustful of him,” said the president of a major national Jewish organization, who declined to be quoted by name to avoid endangering his ties to the White House.

Many of Obama’s supporters, then and now, said they were unworried about the political allegiance of Jewish voters. Every four years, they say, Republicans claim to be making inroads with American Jews, and every four years, voters and donors go overwhelmingly for the Democrats, voting on a range of issues that include, but aren’t limited to Israel.

But while that pattern has held, Obama certainly didn’t take anything for granted. His 2008 campaign dealt with misgivings with a quiet, intense, and effective round of communal outreach.

“When Obama was running, there was a lot of concern among the guys in my group at shul, who are all late-30s to mid-40s, who I hang out with and daven with and go to dinner with, about Obama,” recalled Scott Matasar, a Cleveland lawyer who’s active in Jewish organizations.

Matasar remembers his friends’ worries over whether Obama was “going to be OK for Israel.” But then Obama met with the community’s leaders during a swing through Cleveland in the primary, and the rabbi at the denominationally conservative synagogue Matasar attends — “a real ardent Zionist and Israel defender” — came back to synagogue convinced.

“That put a lot of my concerns to rest for my friends who are very much Israel hawks but who, like me, aren’t one-issue voters.”

Now Matasar says he’s appalled by Obama’s “rookie mistakes and bumbling” and the reported marginalization of a veteran peace negotiator, Dennis Ross, in favor of aides who back a tougher line on Netanyahu. He’s the most pro-Obama member of his social circle but is finding the president harder to defend.

“He’d been very ham-handed in the way he presented [the 1967 border announcement] and the way he sprung this on Netanyahu,” Matasar said.

A Philadelphia Democrat and pro-Israel activist, Joe Wolfson, recalled a similar progression.

“What got me past Obama in the recent election was Dennis Ross — I heard him speak in Philadelphia and I had many of my concerns allayed,” Wolfson said. “Now, I think I’m like many pro-Israel Democrats now who are looking to see whether we can vote Republican.”

That, perhaps, is the crux of the political question: The pro-Israel Jewish voters and activists who spoke to POLITICO are largely die-hard Democrats, few of whom have ever cast a vote for a Republican to be president. Does the new wave of Jewish angst matter?

One place it might is fundraising. Many of the Clinton-era Democratic mega-donors who make Israel their key issue, the most prominent of whom is the Los Angeles Israeli-American billionaire Haim Saban, never really warmed to Obama, though Saban says he will vote for the Democrat and write him a check if asked.

A top-dollar Washington fundraiser aimed at Jewish donors in Miami last week raised more than $1 million from 80 people, and while one prominent Jewish activist said the DNC had to scramble to fill seats, seven-figure fundraisers are hard to sneer at.

Even people writing five-figure checks to Obama, though, appeared in need of a bit of bucking up.

“We were very reassured,” Randi Levine, who attended the event with her husband, Jeffrey, a New York real estate developer, told POLITICO.

Philadelphia Jewish Democrats are among the hosts of another top-dollar event June 30. David Cohen, a Comcast executive and former top aide to former Gov. Ed Rendell, said questions about Obama’s position on Israel have been a regular, if not dominant, feature of his attempts to recruit donors.

“I takes me about five minutes of talking through the president’s position and the president’s speech, and the uniform reaction has been, ‘I guess you’re right, that’s not how I saw it covered,’” he said.

Others involved in the Philadelphia event, however, said they think Jewish doubts are taking a fundraising toll.

“We’re going to raise a ton of money, but I don’t know if we’re going to hit our goals,” said Daniel Berger, a lawyer who is firmly in the “peace camp” and said he blamed the controversy on Netanyahu’s intransigence.


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Well if true, it's about time. But I'm not sure I believe they won't be terrorized back into the fold with the usual "Republicans are bigots" b.s. that keeps them voting Democrat. And let's face it, non-religious Jews don't have any real loyalty to Israel or the values Ohaha is attacking, so what do they care? That said I do have a secular Jewish friend who normally votes Dem but is deeply disappointed in Ohaha, so who knows?
1 posted on 06/29/2011 1:29:32 PM PDT by MissesBush
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To: MissesBush

Yeah, the Warsaw Ghetto was tough love too.


2 posted on 06/29/2011 1:31:07 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: MissesBush

And yet, he’ll get 80% of the Jewish vote.


3 posted on 06/29/2011 1:31:34 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Terrorism is nothing more than Kinetic Islam)
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To: MissesBush

Michele Bachmann on Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2739206/posts

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann on her support for Israel [Michele Bachmann]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RWYFWpMp-o

Update from Congresswoman Michele Bachmann on Israel [Michele Bachmann]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y0nN_hAiWY


4 posted on 06/29/2011 1:31:59 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: MissesBush
I USED to think Jews were very smart and I always wondered how they let The Holocaust happen. After seeing them support the muzzie Hussein, who openly advocates their destruction, I now know they are the dumbest SOBs around.
5 posted on 06/29/2011 1:36:14 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: SJackson

Ping.


6 posted on 06/29/2011 1:36:14 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness smelled across the universe.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

I believe Nixon did quite well with the Jewish vote in 1972 against McGovern. McGovern was perceived as a dove and many people in his campaign were pro Palestian and anti Isreal. I believe the Republican candidate in 2012 will do much better than McCain did in 2008 with the Jewish vote.


7 posted on 06/29/2011 1:37:47 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: MissesBush

Oy vey.


8 posted on 06/29/2011 1:38:08 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: massgopguy
Just WoW!

I can already see Jewish Support for Obama dipping to a low-low 85%! OMG, How catastrophic for the Mombasa Moonbeam! After all, his polling among the African-Americans is already down to 98.9%.

Will you call me when a "Jewish Americans for Herman Cain" group has a meeting in Newton? I would drive down for that!

9 posted on 06/29/2011 1:38:58 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (America. Could be too late to fix anything. And just a wee bit too early to start shooting.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

To take off on Thomas Frank,

What’s the matter with Jews?


10 posted on 06/29/2011 1:39:30 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: MissesBush

I’ll believe it when I see it!


11 posted on 06/29/2011 1:40:01 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: MissesBush
Losing faith in Obama after only 2 1/2 years? Wait till he has you all rounded up and sent to big camps out in the Nevada desert.
12 posted on 06/29/2011 1:40:34 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: massgopguy

Lambs to the slaughter.


13 posted on 06/29/2011 1:43:13 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: MissesBush
It's all very simple. Inasmuch as you can't be Right To Life and be a Democrat simultaneously, you can't be a real Jew and also a Democrat, or a Christian and also a Democrat.

There are entirely too many mixed signals coming from the Democrats but they are all bad. They'd prefer a scorched out atomic wasteland than a modern state of Israel. They hate babies. They want the name "Jesus" stricken from human memory.

14 posted on 06/29/2011 1:43:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Don’t you believe it.


15 posted on 06/29/2011 1:48:37 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: MissesBush

I had no faith in McCain, didn’t like him at all. Still voted for him. They will do the same with BO.


16 posted on 06/29/2011 1:55:32 PM PDT by Hacklehead (The Tree of Liberty is very thirsty.)
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To: MissesBush

I’m not buying it, he could be loading them into cattle cars and they’d still vote for him.


17 posted on 06/29/2011 2:04:16 PM PDT by Jeff Vader (Palin 2012)
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To: meatloaf

Lambs to slaughter? By George you’ve got it. I wonder what the response will be in ten years as anti-semitism is growing exponentially.


18 posted on 06/29/2011 2:07:19 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: The Sons of Liberty

If God had not called them His chosen people they would have gone the way of the Aztecs or Mayans long ago. Throughout the Bible, His defense of Israel never really depended on their being smart or worthy but solely on His election.


19 posted on 06/29/2011 2:13:03 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: MissesBush

sadly, i think things are going to be a LOT clearer to people, after the U.N. tries to create Palestine in Sept.

but even now, you’d think they’d care that
the Administration of the United States of America,
does NOT recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol:

Supreme Court steps into White House-Congress feud over Jerusalem status

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2715778/posts
“...was told that his passport must list “Jerusalem” — without a country — as the place of his birth. Why? Because America doesn’t recognize the Holy City as the Jewish State’s capital.”

Does Obama Think Jerusalem is Outside Israel?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2724037/posts

“The United States State Department is standing behind the wording of an official statement that implied that Jerusalem – including its western parts - is not a part of Israel. “


20 posted on 06/29/2011 2:14:01 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: MissesBush

You can’t deter a moth from being attracted to a flame.


21 posted on 06/29/2011 2:15:28 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: The Sons of Liberty
If you're interested in how the Jews found themselves in the position they did at the start of WWII, The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt is an interesting read.
22 posted on 06/29/2011 2:28:53 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Or a fly being attracted to a pile of $hit.

I think this metaphor is a better one in this situation.


23 posted on 06/29/2011 2:32:12 PM PDT by RickB444 (Worry about and distrust anyone who fears a lawful person owning a gun.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I USED to think Jews were very smart and I always wondered how they let The Holocaust happen. After seeing them support the muzzie Hussein, who openly advocates their destruction, I now know they are the dumbest SOBs around.

Commenting on an article that says that Obama is losing support from Jews, you decide that a rant against Jews is appropriate? Gimme a break.

For the record, more Jews live in the State of Israel than in the US. Obama has less than 10% support in Israel - Israeli Jews have always known he was a disaster. Now, American Jews are waking up, and you decide to let your true feelings about Joooos show. Sheesh.
24 posted on 06/29/2011 2:43:11 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: MissesBush

I will believe these “Jewish people are abandoning the Democrat fold” stories when Christian conservatives embrace a liberal atheist candidate. Just ain’t gonna happen ever.Jewish folks and blacks are the core of the Democrat Party.


25 posted on 06/29/2011 2:52:42 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: MissesBush; MestaMachine

“Based on the conversations with POLITICO, it’s hard to resist the conclusion that some kind of tipping point has been reached.”

Is the spell being broken? One can only hope so because the spell over “christians” has been cast.
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26 posted on 06/29/2011 2:53:26 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: MissesBush

Thanks for posting. I won’t click the Pollutico links, especially if it’s Ben Smith, but I’ll gladly read any stories that undermine the monolithic meme about 0bama’s base.


27 posted on 06/29/2011 2:53:58 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks MissesBush.
David Ainsman... a prominent Democratic lawyer and Pittsburgh Jewish community leader, was trying to explain that Obama had just been offering Israel a bit of "tough love" in his May 19 speech on the Arab Spring.
Only a lawyer would fail to remember or fully understand Martin Luther King's words -- "Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal."


28 posted on 06/29/2011 3:04:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: thouworm

Since the ONLY people in my family I associate with are hardcore conservatives, I don’t know. If Jewish liberals are finally LEARNING that being JEWS, all the liberal stink in the world won’t ingratiate them to literally ANYONE in the world, then that is a good thing. But to claim being a jew, and also being a liberal is an oxymoron. You just can’t be a real capital J Jew and be both. You just can’t.


29 posted on 06/29/2011 3:11:20 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: MissesBush

0bama’s daddy was a muzzie, 0bama’s step-daddy was a muzzie, 0bama’s friends are part of the anti-Israel flotilla, 0bama referred to “al Quds” instead of “Jerusalem” in a speech, 0bama has shown contempt for Netanyahu and has bowed to muzzie leaders.

No Jewish person should be willing to donate a dime to his reelection.

0bama hates Israel and that’s the truth. Sarah Palin supports Israel and that’s well-documented.


30 posted on 06/29/2011 3:11:52 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: MissesBush
My wife, 4 friends and their kids are all Jews, as is my Email buddy. ALL DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. The former Boss did and as far as I am concerned needs a "S" tattooed on his arm for SCHMUCK!

The easy way out is to say "I voted for Obama, but he has not lived up to my expectations", thus eliminating their fear of being called bigots. How they deal with the unAmerican or nonAmerican aspect (Obozo, them or whoever) is their problem.

31 posted on 06/29/2011 3:29:40 PM PDT by Tuketu (Socialize the Legal System. Then we are all equal before the law.)
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To: MissesBush

“Some of these traditional Democrats now say, to their own astonishment, that they’ll consider voting for a Republican in 2012.”

Yeah, right. I’ll believe it when I see it.


32 posted on 06/29/2011 3:32:50 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: MestaMachine

“But to claim being a jew, and also being a liberal is an oxymoron. You just can’t be a real capital J Jew and be both. You just can’t.”

Same holds these days for capital C Christian...just can’t.


33 posted on 06/29/2011 3:38:31 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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34 posted on 06/29/2011 4:17:39 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: meatloaf

Not lambs, retards with no, absolutely no, sense of being...

Their focus is not on God, not on Country, and not on Survival.

The state of Israel is just the harbinger for the US.


35 posted on 06/29/2011 4:42:53 PM PDT by onona (I stand with SARAH !)
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To: Tzfat

What’s the point? Is Israel one of our 57 states [sic]? Please tell me, why did the American Jews overwhelmingly vote for Hussein 0bama? Do they have a suicide complex?


36 posted on 06/29/2011 5:02:20 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: MissesBush

Oh PLEASE!!! They BOTH HATE CHRISTIANS.......SYMPATICO!!


37 posted on 06/29/2011 5:36:03 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SunkenCiv

zer0 is a mozlim. There can be no doubt, and the mozlims are supposed to kill all the Jews. I have a hard time understanding zer0-supporting Jews.


38 posted on 06/29/2011 6:00:09 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The point is, your post oozed with distain, not for liberals, but Jooooz. Get a grip, dude.


39 posted on 06/29/2011 7:17:36 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: MissesBush

Militant Hamas, “moderate” Palestinian Authority.

Kill you now. Kill you a little later.


40 posted on 06/29/2011 7:40:50 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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Some ‘reproductive rights’ rhetoric should bring them home.


41 posted on 06/29/2011 7:44:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: MissesBush

Yeah, sure.


42 posted on 06/29/2011 8:12:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: The Sons of Liberty

As the descendant of multiple Holocaust survivors, I feel the need to let you know that “they” didn’t let it happen. In the case of my family, their country was invaded by a man with an agenda and their neighbors didn’t stand by and watch it happen – they helped.


43 posted on 06/29/2011 8:58:09 PM PDT by GenerationY
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To: GenerationY
Problem is that many Jews live in the large population centers and are secular Donkey first with Jewish coming in a distant second. These stupid would vote for Zer0 if he changed is name to Adolf Hitler and said he'd openly support a Holocaust II on American Jews — if he has a “D” after his name on the ballot. Yes, there are that many stupid, self-haters out there who talk a lot, but will vote for Zer0 in a heartbeat.
44 posted on 06/29/2011 10:42:06 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MasterGunner01
That's just ignorant.
45 posted on 06/29/2011 11:20:36 PM PDT by GenerationY
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To: MissesBush
June 29, 2011 - Texas Gov. Perry urges US attorney general to act against pro-Palestinian protestors “AUSTIN, Texas — Texas Gov. Rick Perry is urging the U.S. attorney general to take action against Americans who take part in a pro-Palestinian protest.

The governor wrote in a letter Wednesday that he was concerned about two U.S.-flagged ships that plan to challenge the Israeli naval blockade on the Gaza Strip. He urged U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to take legal steps to stop Americans from taking part in the attempt to reach Gaza, or to prosecute them if they do….”

******....Perry wrote in a letter dated Wednesday, “According to numerous recent media reports, American citizens and organizations, together with a coalition of violent anti-Israeli organizations from other countries, have organized efforts to breach Israel’s Maritime blockade of the Gaza Strip as early as this week.”

He continued, “The act of funding, supporting, organizing and engaging in these efforts appears to constitute participation in a naval expedition against a people with whom the United States is at peace,” as well as material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization and other violations.

Perry said at least two of the ships are registered in Delaware, including one named “The Audacity of Hope,” which was the title of President Barack Obama’s second book. The letter concludes, “I respectfully request that the U.S. Department of Justice take immediate steps to investigate, enjoin and bring to justice all parties found to be in violation of U.S. law by their participation in these efforts.” Source

46 posted on 06/30/2011 12:30:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MissesBush

So maybe liberal Jews get upset how Bro treats Israel but support his destruction of traditional America

Why am I not impressed?


47 posted on 06/30/2011 12:34:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (Palin or Bachman..either with Marco....but Bachman bashers can kiss my ass)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

It’ll just be 80% of a much smaller pool of voters... as all the rest will most likely stay home instead of voting.


48 posted on 06/30/2011 3:50:38 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: MissesBush
“I’m hearing a lot of ‘Oh, if we’d only elected Hillary instead.’”

Yes, of course. Things would have been so very different.


49 posted on 06/30/2011 4:13:50 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Tzfat
The point is, your post oozed with distain, not for liberals, but Jooooz. Get a grip, dude.

I have utter disdain for ANYONE who supports the policies of Baraq Hussein 0bama, particularly those who continue to do so (Jewish or otherwise) after several years of his blatant disdain for This Country and The Constitution.

BTW when you attain voting age, or at least mature to that level, let's talk - dude!

50 posted on 06/30/2011 5:03:26 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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