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Amazon terminates deal with 25,000 Calif. affiliates
The Orange County Register ^ | 6/30/2011 | Jan Norman

Posted on 06/30/2011 5:26:00 AM PDT by mort56

Gov. Jerry Brown has signed into law California’s tax on Internet sales through affiliate advertising which will immediately cut small-business website revenue 20% to 30%, experts say.

The bill, AB 28X, takes effect immediately. The state Board of Equalization says the tax will raise $200 million a year, but critics claim it will raise nothing because online retailers will end their affiliate programs rather than collect the tax.

Amazon has already emailed its termination of its affiliate advertising program with 25,000 websites

(Excerpt) Read more at jan.ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amazon; amazonsalestax; california; californiasalestax; internet; internetsalestax; taxes
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Once again the "genius" that is the Democrat Party seeks to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. If you still vote Democrat and still believe in the "One", for the good of the country please seek professional help
1 posted on 06/30/2011 5:26:04 AM PDT by mort56
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To: mort56

Wow! Liberal ingenuity at work.


2 posted on 06/30/2011 5:28:43 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: mort56

Yup....their brilliancy knows no bounds..JUST what California needed!

But...I thought amazon was soooooo Socially conscious, so Progressive...guess not when it comes to money.
Reminds me of Bill Gates who was a RUTHLESS take no prisoners Capitalist Pig until he had made his billions.


3 posted on 06/30/2011 5:29:16 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: mort56

Perfect demonstration of the concept of a “Zero Sum Game” - the Equalization Board was smoking some serious weed when they made their revenue projection.


4 posted on 06/30/2011 5:30:00 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: mort56

Brown and his merry band strike again.


5 posted on 06/30/2011 5:33:12 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: mort56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgG0rdWJAJY


6 posted on 06/30/2011 5:33:45 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: mort56

“The state Board of Equalization says...”

That name and what it implies sounds like it is straight out of Atlas Shrugged.


7 posted on 06/30/2011 5:33:57 AM PDT by citizen (Romney+Bachmann I was thinking that during the CNN debate. Economic guy+Values gal. I like it a lot!)
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To: T-Bird45
the Equalization Board was smoking some serious weed when they made their revenue projection.

No, they based it on either last years estimate of transaction amounts or an average of the same over the past 5 - 10 year period. Tomorrow, it will be different and CA will be lucky to cover the cost of maintaining and enforcing this new scheme. Plus the cost of picking up some welfare costs for the 25,000 ex-affiliates.

8 posted on 06/30/2011 5:34:34 AM PDT by woofer
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To: mort56

If just 1% of the Amazon affiliates leave, that’d be 250 fewer people minimum doing business there. Suck on it, Brown. I hope it is more. Starve these commies.


9 posted on 06/30/2011 5:36:27 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: All

all they have to do is stop giving free stuff to illegals and their budget problem is almost solved.


10 posted on 06/30/2011 5:37:20 AM PDT by newnhdad
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To: mort56

Those 25,000 affiliates won’t be spending much money in kali-fornia,without an income, will they?
I feel sorry for all of them except any obozo/moonbeam supporters.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 5:38:39 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: mort56

Place a tax on something — even threaten to place a tax on something — and you will get less of it. These (former) Amazon vendors are being asked to irritate their customers and do the paperwork for no compensation from Governor Moonbeam. You’d think somehow California politicians would have learned that they are the problem and just get out of the way.

I have friends in New York state who will drive thirty miles or more just to buy gasoline in New Jersey where the gas taxes are much lower. It may be a break-even or worse for them but I understand their reasoning.


12 posted on 06/30/2011 5:43:34 AM PDT by Mobties (Reduce the government footprint! Let the markets work!)
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To: citizen

or the communist manifesto


13 posted on 06/30/2011 5:44:46 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: mort56

Choke that greedy evil rich goose! Get those golden eggs!

The fedgov ruins everything it touches.


14 posted on 06/30/2011 5:44:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: mort56
online retailers will end their affiliate programs rather than collect the tax.

Using the coercion of the state to change the spending behavior of consumers is like tying two drunks together to walk in a straight line.

15 posted on 06/30/2011 5:44:58 AM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: mort56

California is gone, it’s not even a part of the United states anymore. I mean let’s face it; It’s been conquered by Mexico and therefore Pelosi shoud be expelled from Congresss as well as all future elections for POTUS.


16 posted on 06/30/2011 5:47:44 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Talk to me Hudson!)
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To: mort56

If you still vote Democrat and still believe in the “One”,...then you deserve a Darwin award.

State/National suicide by stupidity.


17 posted on 06/30/2011 5:48:31 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
But...I thought amazon was soooooo Socially conscious, so Progressive...guess not when it comes to money.

The Obama voting dweebs who run Amazon are like velociraptors when it comes to bullying states to drop sales tax ideas. Tax avoidance on internet sales is what juices the Amazon machine. I have ordered from Amazon and its affiliates.

Similar to the way U2 assiduously avoids paying taxes in Ireland by domiciling their publishing and other operations in Holland

18 posted on 06/30/2011 5:50:28 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: woofer

What is an Amazon Affiliate?

Is that a merchant who uses the amazon platform to do business on the internet?


19 posted on 06/30/2011 5:52:33 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: mort56
"Amazon terminates deal with 25,000 Calif. affiliates"

Atlas <edit> Amazon Shrugged </edit>

20 posted on 06/30/2011 5:53:38 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: mort56

How long before a class action lawsuit against Amazon is filed on behalf of the former CA affiliates?


21 posted on 06/30/2011 5:54:06 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Maybe Amazon believes in free enterprise vice state enterprise?


22 posted on 06/30/2011 5:55:28 AM PDT by Justa
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To: T-Bird45

“Perfect demonstration of the concept of a “Zero Sum Game” - the Equalization Board was smoking some serious weed when they made their revenue projection.”

This will not be a “zero sum game” as hundreds of those affiliates move out of state to continue their revenue streams from Amazon. The state will lose hundreds or thousands of jobs and the tax revenues derived from those folks...and the places those people shop will suffer from lower spending by the unemployed or relocated former employees affected by the companies who relocate...no, this is a net loss for California, it may take a year or two to see it...but it is without doubt going to cost the state in tax revenue and prospects of economic growth.


23 posted on 06/30/2011 5:56:43 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: citizen

I thought the exact same thing when I read it. I thought it was a misprint but no - http://www.boe.ca.gov/


24 posted on 06/30/2011 5:59:48 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (if there were a little more of me around we'd all be better off.)
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To: Mobties
I have friends in New York state who will drive thirty miles or more just to buy gasoline in New Jersey where the gas taxes are much lower.

Same deal for me here in north Idaho. I drive to Spokane every day, but I refuse to buy fuel in Washington state. On the average, it's $.10 / gallon higher there due to taxes. F 'em.

25 posted on 06/30/2011 6:03:04 AM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mort56

And, magically, the new budget becomes UNBALANCED and everybody gets paid!


26 posted on 06/30/2011 6:05:05 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama? Law degree. Reagan? Economics. Obama studied gov't. Reagan studied prosperity.)
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To: mort56

Sure hope NewEgg opens a Texas office :-(


27 posted on 06/30/2011 6:06:13 AM PDT by tomkat (Palin/West '12)
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To: bert
Is that a merchant who uses the amazon platform to do business on the internet?

Yes.

28 posted on 06/30/2011 6:07:08 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama? Law degree. Reagan? Economics. Obama studied gov't. Reagan studied prosperity.)
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To: mort56
someone should send this to Ben Stine and ask him again if raising taxes affects job growth.

What's weird is that he's starting to argue like a liberal, talking over the other person, making snide little personal attacks and then making the big lie and just shrugging it off.

Either his personal life is in shambles, his kid has twisted off or he needs acting jobs is the only way I can figure out what happened to this guy.

29 posted on 06/30/2011 6:08:07 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: newzjunkey
You dont believe the state should be able to borrow and spend money on projected funds that may or may not actually happen? LOL!

/sarcasm

30 posted on 06/30/2011 6:08:35 AM PDT by BossLady (I LOVE RIOT DOG!!!!!!)
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To: citizen
That name and what it implies sounds like it is straight out of Atlas Shrugged.

Is there any doubt, that as federal and state governments start seeing more companies flee rather than pay obscenely high taxes, some brilliant Democrat will propose a law to prevent companies from "escaping?"

31 posted on 06/30/2011 6:12:09 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: BossLady

Everyone should do it. It’s worked so well for us in California. /s


32 posted on 06/30/2011 6:13:42 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama? Law degree. Reagan? Economics. Obama studied gov't. Reagan studied prosperity.)
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To: newzjunkey

I abandonded Caltanic in 2001 to Reno....not looking any better here...LOL!


33 posted on 06/30/2011 6:19:43 AM PDT by BossLady (I LOVE RIOT DOG!!!!!!)
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To: mort56
I Support Amazon!
34 posted on 06/30/2011 6:24:33 AM PDT by Obadiah (If you don't believe you can win, there is no point in getting out of bed at the end of the day.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Yeah, I caught Stein’s act on the BOR show last night, Ingraham was sitting in so I watched the show for a change, and he did not blink when she said OK, so we raise the income taxes to confiscatory levels and that means we get 900+billion in tax revenue (extortion). He said yeah, we have to do it. Must be something in the water there in Ca. I wonder if he thought what would happen if they raised the tax to 100% to state income tax receipts? Do they go down or do they send a bill for the extra 15% of income over and above all of it sent to the G?

Unfortunately this deficit debate is not going to end well. Either the US will lose 10% in GDP by only spending what comes in or the dems position to raise taxes and doing little on entitlements wins out. There is a full court press on the latter in the press, political ads and from the senate dems in lockstep with the mistake in the whitehouse.


35 posted on 06/30/2011 6:29:47 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: mort56
The state Board of Equalization...

To some of us Orwell's books were warnings. To others they were blueprints.

36 posted on 06/30/2011 6:35:26 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: newnhdad

“all they have to do is stop giving free stuff to illegals and their budget problem is almost solved.”

We know this. We even voted for just this. And it was ruled “unconstitutional.”


37 posted on 06/30/2011 6:36:50 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: mort56

The 'Greek' virus is already in the USA. It can be found in CA where it is now an 'epidemic', causing that state to keep sinking at an ever-rapidly increasing speed (kinda like an earthly 'black-sink-hole').

There are 'carriers' of this virus that are spreading it throughout the USA with ever increasing rapidity. It has already infected the USA's central nervous system in WA DC, and in it's brain (WH).

USA's 'vital signs' are dropping rapidly. WE NEED A 'DOCTOR' and 'EMERGENCY SURGERY' quickly!


38 posted on 06/30/2011 6:37:32 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: mort56
Only until every state has similar laws. Which just might happen.

Lots of untaxed commerce on the internet. That attracts tax hungry politicians.

39 posted on 06/30/2011 6:38:21 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: AAABEST
"To some of us Orwell's books were warnings. To others they were blueprints."

is that your quote? If so well done!

40 posted on 06/30/2011 6:39:04 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Dick Vomer

Ben Stein was a Nixon stooge and should have gone to prison.


41 posted on 06/30/2011 6:40:43 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Mobties
Place a tax on something — even threaten to place a tax on something — and you will get less of it.

How about a tax on government? That'd balance the budget in a heartbeat; state and ferral. /s
42 posted on 06/30/2011 6:40:55 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Mobties

“I have friends in New York state who will drive thirty miles or more just to buy gasoline in New Jersey where the gas taxes are much lower.”

How long before they have undercover MY State Troopers watching NJ gas stations to catch “tax evaders?”


43 posted on 06/30/2011 6:42:17 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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To: mort56; xzins
I think Amazon is setting the entire internet sales business up for a hit from the Federal Government. Goods sold in California to California buyers are subject to the state sales tax. Internet middlemen like Amazon create a cyber location for the sale to allegedly take place outside the State even though the entire transaction takes place within the State.

Amazon's decision to terminate it's dealings with 1/10 of its affiliates is eventually going to lead to a situation where Congress acts to protect the States revenues and specifically makes a requirement that on interstate transactions, the seller must collect the sales tax from their state (no matter where the goods end up).

For a company run by liberals who love the benefits of other people's tax money, Amazon sure has a libertarian/anarchist view of tax laws that affect its business operations.

44 posted on 06/30/2011 6:42:17 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Mad Dawgg; AAABEST

I’ve seen it said this way before:

“Hey, Democrats, ‘1984’ was supposed to be a warning, not a guidebook”


45 posted on 06/30/2011 6:49:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“It’s been conquered by Mexico”

That’s a little over the top.


46 posted on 06/30/2011 6:50:23 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: T-Bird45

“Zero Sum Game”

Maybe you were being clever here referring to an Obama scheme as a Zero, but what has happened is not a ZSG.

In game theory and economic theory, a zero-sum game is a mathematical representation of a situation in which a participant’s gain or loss is exactly balanced by the losses or gains of the other participant(s).

This thing is just a lose/lose game.


47 posted on 06/30/2011 6:50:39 AM PDT by super7man
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To: mort56

Ya gotta love liberals for at least one thing - they are the baseline from which all intelligence should be measured,


48 posted on 06/30/2011 6:55:53 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: AAABEST
To some of us Orwell's books were warnings. To others they were blueprints.

Nice. Permission to steal this?

49 posted on 06/30/2011 6:55:53 AM PDT by super7man
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To: mort56
The state Board of Equalization

Sounds like something out of Atlas Shrugged. What next? The Anti-Dog-Eat-Dog Rule?

In other news:

O.C. manufacturer moves, adds 270 jobs in D.C.

OC. manufacturer to close, move to Texas

69 more companies move jobs, facilities out of California

50 posted on 06/30/2011 6:56:36 AM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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