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Scalia wrong, Thomas right on violent video games
Washington Examiner ^ | June 30, 2011 | Ken Klukowski

Posted on 06/30/2011 4:39:19 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby

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To: Norm Lenhart
Then don’t make pro government regulation arguements.

You cannot support the Constitution without implicitly making a "pro-government" argument. If you expect me to quit doing that you're going to be disappointed.

121 posted on 06/30/2011 6:45:52 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

The Warren Court was known as our great libertarian court, they used ‘individual rights’ to start dismantling the nation and our culture.

Earl Warren’s was a Libertarian hero with his sweeping new view of the constitution and finding individual rights all the time and eliminating 170 years of American community and culture, with libertarianism the government decides everything, the people can only await it’s rulings.

The Warren Court was the real hippie movement of the 60s.

“From 1953 to 1969, Earl Warren presided as chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. Under Warren’s leadership, the Court actively used judicial review to strictly scrutinize and overturn state and federal statutes, to apply many provisions of the Bill of Rights to the states, and to provide opportunities for those groups in society that had been excluded from the political process. During Warren’s tenure, the Court became increasingly liberal and activist, drawing the fire of political and judicial conservatives who believed that the Warren Court had overstepped its constitutional role and had become a legislative body. The Warren Court itself became a catalyst for change, initiating reforms rather than responding to pressures applied by other branches of government.

The Warren Court was committed to the promotion of a libertarian and egalitarian society. The Court used the strict scrutiny test of constitutional review to strike down legislation that directly abridged the exercise of fundamental rights or narrowed the number of people who might exercise them, and to invalidate legislation that discriminated on the basis of race, religion, and other suspect classifications. Under strict scrutiny, the government has the burden of proving that a compelling state interest exists for the legislation and that the law was narrowly tailored to minimize the restriction on the fundamental right. This burden proved difficult to meet during the Warren Court years, turning the federal courts into institutions that protected the interests of politically unpopular individuals and members of relatively powerless minority groups who had been victimized by pervasive historical, political, economic, and social discrimination.”


122 posted on 06/30/2011 6:47:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: tacticalogic

Obviously you did not. Read it again. Explain how for a couple thousand years civilization survived without govt to regulate alcohol purchase and consumption....Oh yea...Parenting.

Any store owner can refuse the right to serve a child - Or an adult.. If the ‘community’ does not want kids drinking, it does not require a law. Just involved parents and businesses working together.

Simple huh?

Noy your turn to fess up. Do you believe that soldiers should be denied a beer ? Yes or no .


123 posted on 06/30/2011 6:47:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: UCANSEE2

>>Maybe the point is that these children don’t have a MOM and DAD. Or at least ones who CARE what their children are doing. <<

You mean like a Big Brother?

/s


124 posted on 06/30/2011 6:47:30 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Your post demonstrates the differences between a strict constructionalist (Scalia) and an originalst (Thomas). They might agree 95% of the time, but the other 5% could get personal.


125 posted on 06/30/2011 6:47:52 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: ansel12

>>Government regulation of business is now a desired thing on a conservative website?
>
>Of course, you think that social conservatives think that by calling it a business that you have free unfettered access to our children?

And whose responsibility is it to look after the child?
The state? The businessman? Or, perhaps, the Parent?

{It is also complete BS to say that the business has unfettered access to children, because it is the parent that is supposed to fetter the child!}


126 posted on 06/30/2011 6:48:04 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: tacticalogic

Show me alcohol/video game lawn in the constitution.

MINIMAL GOVERNMENT not ANARCHY!


127 posted on 06/30/2011 6:48:35 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Noy your turn to fess up. Do you believe that soldiers should be denied a beer ? Yes or no .

I believe that soldiers should conduct themselves in accordance with the "community standards" of whereever they are. My son is a nuke serving on one of our fast attack subs, and I expect no less from him.

128 posted on 06/30/2011 6:50:57 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: OneWingedShark

That is just a silly post, it sounds like you live in a vacuum.


129 posted on 06/30/2011 6:51:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: tacticalogic

>>So either jack the enlistment age to 21 or 17 and up is just fine with me for a beer.
>
>OK, how are you with a couple of 13 year-olds walking out of a liquor store with a fifth of Everclear?

AMENDMENT XVIII
Passed by Congress December 18, 1917. Ratified January 16, 1919. Repealed by amendment 21.

Section 1.
After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

Section 2.
The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Section 3.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.


AMENDMENT XXI

Passed by Congress February 20, 1933. Ratified December 5, 1933.

Section 1.
The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 2.
The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited.

Section 3.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.


Looks to me like it’s not the federal government’s business at all; Sec 1 of Amendment 21 repealed ALL of Amendment 18.


130 posted on 06/30/2011 6:52:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: exDemMom

Exactly. My 21 year old that made Sgt at 21 in the USAF , did a tour in Iraq and sings the National Anthem at all the base functions, has an Associates in Biz, was raised on Freddy Kruger and Final Fantasy.

Oh and she is now a married mom with 2 adopted children.

Yea, them evil video games make for crazed killers.


131 posted on 06/30/2011 6:53:49 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Show me alcohol/video game lawn in the constitution.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

132 posted on 06/30/2011 6:54:29 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: ansel12
The Warren Court was known as our great libertarian court

No, it was the great liberal court, and Warren relied heavily on the remaining New Deal progressive justices appointed by FDR to cement in place his majority. Warren was a liberal, not a libertarian.

133 posted on 06/30/2011 6:54:50 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Sure you can. And community standards used to be higher before government stepped in. Remember when schools could actually punish kids? Like sitting them in corners or the hall? Not anymore. Government says it hurts their little feelings.

Exactly, since the 60s the Supreme Court and the feds have destroyed our communities, and here you are cheering their latest victory over communities.

134 posted on 06/30/2011 6:55:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: Monorprise
I don't think so. Here's the preamble. Let me know where it says that the Bill of Rights only applies to the Federal Government:
Congress of the United States begun and held at the City of New York, on Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty-nine.

The Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution expressed a desire in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several states as Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all or any of which articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution. viz.

Articles in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress and Ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution."

Those first few words of the First Amendment must have some meaning, those men who wrote our Constitution were extremely careful, they left no superfluous phrases hanging about. Thus when we read "Congress shall no law", that applies only to the first and leaves the others to apply to all entities of government Federal or State.

Those were the minimum safeguards to liberty of the citizens that each state must supply to be part of the United States.

135 posted on 06/30/2011 6:56:08 PM PDT by bvw
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To: ansel12

What is silly about stating that it is the parent’s responsibility to parent?
{As opposed to the government, or the businessman?}


136 posted on 06/30/2011 6:58:16 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Sorry, but Earl Warren was a famous libertarian, that is why he used the mantra of “individual rights” to end local control and federalize everything.

Just like in the schools, it was libertarianism that destroyed the ability to control the students and run clean, orderly schools, because everything was a right, just as this ruling.
By the way libertarianism is liberalism with conservative economics, and even that wasn’t there at first.


137 posted on 06/30/2011 7:00:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: tacticalogic

You OK if the state decides to remove guns from your neighborhood because it feels you live too close to a school? after all, the state said so right?

As for your non-answer to the soldier beer thing, I take that as a no.


138 posted on 06/30/2011 7:00:56 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: ansel12
You're just flat-out wrong.

Warren was a liberal Republican; a three-time governor of California who was so liberal he even won the nomination for governor from the progressive AND democrat party when he ran in 1946. You really need to do some research, man.

139 posted on 06/30/2011 7:03:57 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Gotta go. Will check back later. Don’t worry Tac, I’m not running away ;)


140 posted on 06/30/2011 7:06:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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