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NOAA administrator: Lack of funding for Boulder-built satellite will hobble weather forecasting
dailycamera.com ^ | 28 June 2011 | Laura Snider

Posted on 06/30/2011 8:00:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog

If the U.S. Congress does not provide the necessary funding to build and launch the country's planned next-generation weather satellite, meteorologists' ability to accurately predict the weather will be hobbled.

That was the warning delivered Tuesday in Boulder by Kathryn Sullivan, assistant administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Sullivan was visiting Ball Aerospace, which has been chosen by NOAA to build the body of the weather satellite, known as the Joint Polar Satellite System.

JPSS was originally scheduled for launch in 2014. But Congress' inability to pass a new budget in 2011 meant that the funding for building JPSS stayed at 2010 levels. President Barack Obama had asked to increase funding for the project from $382 million to $1.06 billion so that contractors, including Ball, could get to work on building both the spacecraft and the instruments that will ride on board.

The JPSS launch has been now been delayed by 18 months to late 2016, which means that that the satellite may not make it to space in time to pick up where its predecessor leaves off, Sullivan said. A gap in data would have serious impacts on forecasters' ability to predict the weather and give advance warning for severe weather events.

"It means that the confidence you can have for a 10-day forecast retreats to a three- to five-day outlook," Sullivan said.

Ninety-three percent of the data that goes into the National Weather Service's numerical weather prediction model comes from satellites, and the majority of the satellite data comes from polar-orbiting satellites, like the future JPSS satellite, Sullivan said. A gap in that data -- which may happen even if Congress fully funds the project beginning in fiscal year 2012 -- will make forecasts less accurate.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: climate; noaa

1 posted on 06/30/2011 8:00:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Hey, quick, anybody out there have any confidence at all in those 10 day outlooks?


2 posted on 06/30/2011 8:05:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: smokingfrog

Well, if they hadn’t purposely blown up the last one during the ascent stage of launch, funding might not have been a problem.


3 posted on 06/30/2011 8:08:03 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: muawiyah

Hell no. Old Farmer’s Almanac is probably just as useful as NWS.


4 posted on 06/30/2011 8:08:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

“If the U.S. Congress does not provide the necessary funding to build and launch the country’s planned next-generation weather satellite, meteorologists’ ability to accurately predict the weather will be hobbled.”

Don’t care. 5 days out is good enough. Weather heads cannot get it right 1 day out. Not spending a billion so they can still get it wrong.

Plus the data is useless. I can save the government a cool billion.. Watch.... The data shows global warming,


5 posted on 06/30/2011 8:09:09 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberals who graduate from Ivy League schools are the dumbest people on the planet.)
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To: muawiyah

They want to blame the delay in funding on congress not passing a budget. She should have asked O why he didn’t pass a budget when the dems had had both sen and house before Jan?


6 posted on 06/30/2011 8:11:08 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: EQAndyBuzz

What a coincidence. Obama mentions that the weather service will be impacted by the budget issues. Then the very next day, this story appears in the MSM. Is this a coincidence or was it planted here as part of a plan?????


7 posted on 06/30/2011 8:13:13 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: smokingfrog

Farmer’s Almanac and open the kitchen window.

We are broke.


8 posted on 06/30/2011 8:21:51 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Just a coincidence. /s


9 posted on 06/30/2011 8:22:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I don’t mean to start a libertarian WOD holy war, but please realize the there are over 180 medicinal marijuana clinics in Boulder. I don’t have big expectations for any new technology coming from that particular People’s Republic.


10 posted on 06/30/2011 8:36:24 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: smokingfrog

If the USA hadn’t frittered away trillions waging wars and rebuilding other countries, we could have done a lot more for our own country. Curing cancer, Alzheimers and having more helpful important functions such as accurate long term weather forecasting, and forecasting earthquakes are but a few that could have been helped enormously by using the costs of a few months of these wars.

When was the last time that the USA was actually defending our own borders with our military, instead of having them places we have no business being?

We fight wars for other nations and get nothing in return for the process. These other nations should be paying mightily for our security forces.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 8:49:59 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: smokingfrog

Sorry. The Democrats have decided it is a priority to study space therefore they have allocated all extra funding for Pell Grants to boost the cosmetologist graduation rate.


12 posted on 06/30/2011 8:50:49 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Join the AFL-CIO. The Communist Party needs new blood.)
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To: smokingfrog

More Obama bullshit. We have other weather satellites and so does the rest of the world. I’m old entire to remember TIROS, NIMBUS, etc.

And in a temporary pinch, we can always buy one from somebody - France, Israel, Iran, No. Korea, Red China, Russia, etc.

In fact, we can probably go to “Satellites R Us” and get one.

How about buying one from private industry in the U.S.? That’s a job creator, isn’t it?


13 posted on 06/30/2011 8:52:26 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: smokingfrog

This should not be a problem as they can just fudge the weather data like they have been fudging the climate data.


14 posted on 06/30/2011 8:56:44 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (No one is more against progress than a progressive.)
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To: smokingfrog

Forecasting (guessing?) couldn’t get much worse than it already is, so I say cut all of it.


15 posted on 06/30/2011 8:58:48 PM PDT by decisis
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To: muawiyah

That 9 O’clock news forecast is about as useful as the rest of the broadcast. However, using NOAA’s aviation weather, which has no BS, just pure observations, forecasting when it might snow three weeks out is child’s play. In fact, many of us plan work from home days around such forecasts of when it might snow. When it is thunderstorming outside and has been all day I can use NOAA’s weather observations and find that magic window of when things will settle down for a perfect flight.

It isn’t NOAA, it’s all those talking heads on the news stations trying to inject their opinions.


16 posted on 06/30/2011 9:04:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: smokingfrog
This actually sounds like a useful, general welfare project, but only if my proposal is adopted.

Defund and close whatever department of NASA James Hansen works in, permanently, and transfer the funds to the satellite project.

Done deal.

17 posted on 06/30/2011 11:25:12 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: CodeToad
It isn’t NOAA, it’s all those talking heads on the news stations trying to inject their opinions.

In my area they are all weather girls and they are dressed like they are in a nightclub.

18 posted on 06/30/2011 11:30:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: smokingfrog

If old fear cards fail childern,police,firemen create a new one budget card.


19 posted on 07/01/2011 3:41:29 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: muawiyah

Been living just fine for 57 years with out it. Pay down the debt


20 posted on 07/01/2011 4:08:12 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Hat-Trick

ZONK!!!!!!


21 posted on 07/01/2011 4:38:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
This one, like the last one they blew up at the very last moment, has things on it to measure world wide CO2.

It, too, will be blown up.

BTW, it's not the anti-AGW folks blowing these things up. It's the pro-AGW people who want them destroyed because once we have a grasp of the real who, whats and wheres of CO2 everyone will be able to see the fraud it really is.

They have just a few places they measure CO2 "officially". One of them is a volcano in the Pacific. Within 50 yards of their CO2 measurements they measure micro-emissions of other gases from the Upper Mantle. The other two major points are down wind from other volcanos ~ in deep valleys where this heavier than air gas can't readily escape.

22 posted on 07/01/2011 4:43:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
What that means to us is that someone who is AGAINST THE SATELLITE is an anthropogenic Global Warming fanatic.

Someone who is FOR THE SATELLITE is an American patriot who wants to put a stop to climate fraud.

23 posted on 07/01/2011 4:44:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Moonman62

One weather girl here is 40 but tries to giggle and act bashful like a 12 year old.


24 posted on 07/01/2011 7:03:28 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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