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N.Y. town clerk: I won't sign gay wedding license
Politico ^ | 06/28/2011 | Reid J. Epstein

Posted on 06/30/2011 8:12:21 PM PDT by fwdude

New York’s gay weddings victory lap has not extended to all parts of the Empire State, with a rural town clerk determined to not sign any same-sex marriage licenses.

Barbara MacEwen, the town clerk in upstate Volney who is responsible for signing marriage licenses in the town, said she’s morally opposed to same-sex weddings and does not intend to affix her signature to any marriage documents for gay or lesbian couples.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
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To: fwdude
"It takes supernatural courage to stand up to the Gaystapo."

It takes faith and without faith courage does not mean a whole lot.

51 posted on 06/30/2011 9:56:58 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: fwdude; potlatch; PhilDragoo

The NY town clerk was interviewed for 11:00 news, Syracuse NBC affiliate. She said although she does not wish to sign, she will sign the marriage licenses for gay couples, as it is her duty.


52 posted on 06/30/2011 10:03:32 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: 4Runner

I’m in favor of your solution.


53 posted on 06/30/2011 10:05:01 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: fwdude

>> The government doesn’t “regulate” marriage

Yeah, well now it’s regulating the religions and industry that make marriage possible.


54 posted on 06/30/2011 10:05:26 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: ntnychik
> The NY town clerk was interviewed for 11:00 news, Syracuse NBC affiliate. She said although she does not wish to sign, she will sign the marriage licenses for gay couples, as it is her duty.

Yikes!

Pick one:

  1. She discovered she has no legal basis for objecting, and decided to keep her job. Or...

  2. She is planning to resign at her first reasonable opportunity. Or...

  3. They got to her.
Unfortunately, I fear the third is most likely.
55 posted on 06/30/2011 10:10:41 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Unfortunately, you’re right. The clerk is on weak legal ground and will probably lose her job. That doesn’t mean I don’t applaud her and wish her well. BTW, the leftists routinely violate laws they disagree with, but that’s beside the point.

People need to understand there’s no middle ground on this gay versus real marriage thing. If a government legalizes gay marriage, then it has to actively oppose real marriage. What I mean is, it can no longer give real marriage any special treatment whatsoever. That means rewriting school curriculum to give gay “marriage” equal treatment.

Gay “marriage” isn’t the end result. Gay marriage is only an incremental step in a process to restrict the religious, association, and free speech rights of anyone who disagrees.


56 posted on 06/30/2011 10:13:29 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: fwdude

The problem is that the church was given an “exception” and of course, that’s based on moral grounds. So, if I’m a church member and a Town Clerk, I logically fall under that “participatory” legislation.


57 posted on 06/30/2011 10:14:12 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: dayglored

No different that forcing nurses to participate in abortions.


58 posted on 06/30/2011 10:15:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: dayglored; fwdude
3.They got to her.

Unfortunately, I fear the third is most likely.

I think you're right. She is a very elderly woman, and seemed very stressed.

59 posted on 06/30/2011 10:17:11 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Sacajaweau
> No different that forcing nurses to participate in abortions.

I agree. Same moral dilemma with regard to the job -- and kudos to those who stand by their moral beliefs.

60 posted on 06/30/2011 10:28:37 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: fwdude

She’ll be in the unemployment line shortly.


61 posted on 06/30/2011 11:20:46 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama studied gov't (law degree). Reagan studied prosperity (economics degree).)
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To: newzjunkey

Oops! I hadn’t gotten to the update at 55.


62 posted on 06/30/2011 11:25:28 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama? Law degree. Reagan? Economics degree. Obama studied gov't. Reagan studied prosperity.)
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To: dayglored

She ought to stay put and let the voters determine her fitness for the job.


63 posted on 07/01/2011 12:31:16 AM PDT by healy61
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To: Lazlo in PA; dayglored; fwdude

>>> This woman is an elected official. She doesn’t answer to anyone except the voters.

And courts. Being elected doesn’t put her up above the law. I expect there are precedents from the old civil rights era with officials refusing to grant marriages papers in mixed race cases.

Assuming state law doesn’t grant this office the option to pick and choose which citizens they may serve, it’s open and shut. She will lose.


64 posted on 07/01/2011 2:35:00 AM PDT by tlb
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To: fwdude

“traveling hundreds of miles out of their way with homo-lawyers in tow to make sure she bows before the idol of Molech.”

She works for Molech.


65 posted on 07/01/2011 2:57:25 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Palter

We need to have Church marriages conducted as William Wallace’s in “Braveheart” - no state involvement at all. Priests should just perform religious ceremonies, and the people should just carry on as married people have for millenia; if tax matters cause them to hesitate, their hearts are in the wrong place. Their are civil contracts to deal with inheritances and such.


66 posted on 07/01/2011 3:02:55 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: fwdude

I hope this poor woman is ready. The gates of hell are about to be unleashed.


67 posted on 07/01/2011 5:12:56 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Gene Eric
It’s not about homosexual unity, it’s about persecuting those that don’t support it.

I think you hit the bulls eye right there.

68 posted on 07/01/2011 7:56:01 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Pinkbell

At her age, she’ll need all the moral, spiritual and physical support she can get.


69 posted on 07/01/2011 9:05:31 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: dayglored

It used to be legal to work to the Irish. It wasn’t right, but it was legal.

It’s legal for gays to marry in NY. It isn’t right, not by any moral, religious, economic, societal, or even historical standard, but its the law in NYC.

There were plenty of outlaws in Germany who harbored Jews at the risk of losing their own lives and property. I think today we call them heroes.

Anne Frank’s family was ratted out at the time by a law abiding and alert citizen.

Rosa Parks was jailed for not riding in the back of the bus.

This isn’t meat handling. What vegan would take a job in meat handling and then object to it - some lawyer’s son no doubt?

This is marriage, which isn’t a legal institution, but a religious one co-opted by governments. You want civil unions? Be my guest, but it isn’t marriage.

This isn’t about ‘rights’ for the gay lobby here - this is about power.

Orwell said this would happen. So did Huxley.

In the 70’s, the hippies teaching these books to us in public school classrooms thought it would be republicans and fat cats bringing all of this on. Turns out it was the hippies that are doing it to us. They were using those books like Hitler used Mein Campf.

This generation - the Boomers - they will be remembered by history as a generation of locusts.

They came, consuming everything including the rule of law, and died demanding special circumstances, even with their last breath. They left nothing but obligations to their children, who were raised either by homosexuals, Nickelodeon, or the Disney Channel, a nation of lawyers and dependents, wondering when the next big thing was coming along so they could feast upon it like baby spiders eating their mother.

I hope future generations don’t judge us to harshly for deciding to bring them into this world. By then, history may have already been erased or rewritten perhaps, to ease the pain of realizing what has been lost.


70 posted on 07/01/2011 9:38:12 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: fwdude
What are the long-term consequences if every traditionalist American is purged from the county clerks' offices in every county in NY State, or indeed, in the country?

What positions do county clerks go on to run for? County commissioner? What can go wrong at a county clerk's office?

71 posted on 07/01/2011 2:56:42 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox
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