Skip to comments.NYT bombshell: Strauss-Kahn assault case falling apart over questions about accuser’s credibility
Posted on 07/01/2011 7:02:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The WSJ has a bare-bones story out tonight about Strauss-Kahn’s lawyers making a “surprise court appearance” tomorrow to ask the judge to relax his bail conditions. There’s no clue from the piece, though, about what unusual circumstances might have led to such a surprise.
Meanwhile, over at the NYT: Surprise.
The sexual assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn is on the verge of collapse as investigators have uncovered major holes in the credibility of the housekeeper who charged that he attacked her in his Manhattan hotel suite in May, according to two well-placed law enforcement officials…
According to the two law enforcement officials, the woman had a phone conversation with an incarcerated man within a day of her encounter with Mr. Strauss Kahn in which she discussed the possible benefits of pursing the charges against him. The conversation was recorded.
That man, the investigators learned, had been arrested on charges of possessing 400 pounds of marijuana. He was among a number of individuals who made multiple cash deposits, totaling around $100,000, into the womans bank account over the last two years. The deposits were made in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia and New York.
They also learned that she was paying hundreds of dollars every month in phone charges to five different companies. The woman insisted she only had a single phone and said she knew nothing about the deposits except that they were made by a man she described as her fiancé and his friends.
In addition, the official said, she told investigators that part of her application for asylum included a previous rape, but there was no such account in the application. She also told them that she had been subjected to genital mutilation, but her account to the investigators differed from what was contained in the asylum application.
DSK’s lawyers never disputed that there was sexual contact between them; in fact, allegedly, there’s physical evidence to substantiate it. Their claim all along was that it was consensual and that the accuser had a credibility problem. And now here we are, with the parties “discussing whether to dismiss the felony charges.” The Times suggests without saying that she was trying to shake him down — which might very well have worked if not for these new details — but if, as they hint, she was making easy money as part of some drug ring, why would she risk drawing scrutiny from the police by lobbing a sensational rape accusation at a famous diplomat in line to be the next president of France? And did she simply luck out in choosing her target, or did she somehow know that Strauss-Kahn is a guy whose issues with women are so notorious back home that not only do acquaintances talk of him being “sick,” but that another woman had accused him of attempted rape four years ago?
If DSK really is innocent and this is some elaborate scam, here’s a taste of how sinisterly elaborate it really was. From a May 21 post on the Daily Beast:
The luxury-hotel maid who alleges she was sexually assaulted by Dominique Strauss-Kahn was found by a supervisor in a hallway where she hid after escaping from the former International Monetary Fund director’s room. Hotel workers described her as traumatized, having difficulty speaking, and immediately concerned about pressing charges and losing her job, according to sources familiar with the investigation.
The maid also repeatedly spit on the walls and floors of the suite in front of her hotel colleagues as she alleged that Strauss-Kahn locked her in his room and forced her into oral sex acts. That saliva is being tested for DNA markers and could become a crucial piece of evidence in the case, the sources said…
Throughout the questioning, the maid appeared traumatized, at one point going to a bathroom to try to vomit and several times spitting on the floor and walls of the suite, according to the sources.
Supposedly she became “visibly upset” upon returning to the suite, and was nauseated and trembling during questioning. That’s why the cops raced to the airport and pulled him off the plane, of course. She was that credible, even to seasoned NYPD investigators. Which makes me wonder, does the prosecution believe that she’s lying to them about the incident or do they merely believe that they won’t be able to convict him once the defense is through with her on the stand?
Exit question: DSK back in the French presidential race?
Update: An even better question from the comments:
If she was making easy money as part of a drug ring, why would she be working as a maid?
Maybe the boyfriend’s simply using her as a patsy, exploiting her bank and phone accounts to hide his “business” activities as best he can. Note too that the Times doesn’t say that she raised the subject of “possible benefits” from pursuing charges against DSK. She merely discussed it with the boyfriend; he might have brought it up, realizing that it could have meant a payday.
Money can buy you a great smear campaign.
So it’s ok to rape a drug dealer’s girlfriend?
Whew! That was close.
Nuts and sluts. It’s a common defense.
So the classic rapist defense of “It’s impossible to rape a prostitute” is being shifted to “It’s impossible to rape a drug dealer”?
That seems awfully thin to me.
Did a sexual encounter take place? If so, and she showed physical signs of sexual assault, then the evidence will point to what happened in that hotel room that day.
Typical prison phone conversation.....
“Gee Charlie, sorry you got busted, but when we get the load in from Phoenix and shoot that snitch we will post bail for you.”
I’ve always wondered how a short, fat, naked, 62-year old Frenchman was supposed to have physically forced a 32 year-old 6 foot tall Guinean manual laborer to do some of the things claimed in the press.
Little chance of any rape at all. Let’s see..either the French guy was instantly overcome by the urge to rape this poor, helpless, hardworking maid that he brutally assaulted her in the few minutes before he had to leave for the airport—or she enticed him with the prospect of an easy quickie and then went into the rape victim act.
Her recorded conversation with her drug dealer cohort about all the money she was going to scam out of this deal indicates the latter.
I want to puke when I recall how her lawyer portrayed his dirt poor little church mouse client, but forgetting to mention all her bank acclunts chock full of drug dealer loot.
And add to that that there has never been a case in which a woman lied about being raped, and you have to wonder why we are even having a trial.
Throw the obviously guilty man in prison.
So you believe that you can’t rape a prostitute? Or a drug dealer?
That seems to be the implication: “Rape is fine, as long as you choose unsympathetic victims.”
Not surprising considering about 50% of reported rape claims are fraudulent.
Exactly. I doubt that she was a model of holiness in her personal life, but that’s not a crime and it still remains that even a prostitute can be raped. If she had really been planning on extortion based on consensual sex, she certainly wouldn’t have gone through an elaborate charade that was bound to result in having the police called in; she would merely have quietly gotten in touch with him and threatened to reveal all unless he gave her a hefty chunk of change. Calling the police in removed any possibility of making a profit out of it.
I remember an attempt was made to smear Monica Lewinski, too; she certainly was no paragon of virtue herself, but she was telling the truth (since the whole issue in the case was not the commission of a crime, but whether or not Bill was lying under oath). However, they tried their hardest to make her look like a lunatic.
You got a source for that figure?
“false accusations account for only 2% of all reported sexual assaults. This is no higher than false reports for other crimes.”
RE: So you believe that you cant rape a prostitute? Or a drug dealer?
The answer is YES to the above questions. But the all important question is still this -— DID DSK DO IT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE?
In other words, WHO IS LYING? Is the woman, whose past is now discovered to be chock-full of lies, telling the truth?
Of course Ramos and Compean’s ‘victim’ had a history of drug-running, but his testimony was somehow unimpeachable. In fact, IIRC, Ramos and Compean’s defense attorney was barred from introducing the poor smuggler’s checkered history.
The wife got all the bearer bonds delivered it would seem.
Hey—It worked for BJ Clinton!
I didn’t say it couldn’t happen, but didn’t he say:
- I wasn’t there
- I never had sex with her
If we are saying that she is a liar due to these revelations, does not his initial claims make him a liar as well?
I’m not saying he raped her, I’m saying the fact that she may be a drug dealer doesn’t mean he didn’t rape her.
The evidence does not care if she were a drug dealer, but too many people here say “Well she’s a liar, so she lied!”
He lied too, that’s why the physical evidence is going to tell us what really happened in that room.
What about the man who said "I never had sex with her" and yet his semen was found in and on her? Is he telling the truth?
the answer to that is obvious, DSK is a privileged white male so he must be lying. minorities with drug dealing boyfriends in prison never lie./sarc
From other articles posted on FR. I’d have to go back and use the search box (LOL!) to try and find them.
RE: What about the man who said “I never had sex with her” and yet his semen was found in and on her? Is he telling the truth?
If I’m not mistaken, DSK admitted to having sex with her but says it was consensual.
Only after the DNA evidence was revealed. His first claims were he was having lunch with his daughter and wasn’t at the hotel at the time.
How is the physical evidence going to tell us whether there was consensual sex or forcible rape?
Well, there is this, I guess,-- she could probably whip the old fat's unarmed ass in a fight if she wanted to.
False Rape Accusations May Be More Common Than Thought
And how often do women get prosecuted for filing false reports like these?
Beware of feminists bearing statistics on false rape claims
So you don’t think women make up rape claims like the gal who accused the Duke lacrosse players a few years ago?
About as much as you believe prostitutes or drug dealers never lie.
Yeah, like the Duke lacrosse case. Remember that this information about the maid came from the PROSECUTION. Why would they smear their own witness?
That is not in dispute. DSK said from the very beginning that it was consensual.
The New World Order has spoken. How else can you account for the “first set of facts” about the case being replaced with an “entirely new set of facts”? Yeh that can happen.
That sound we hear is mega-money talking.
I do not know what went on in that room. But I do know this woman needs to have her asylum app closely scrutinized. She seems to be a shady character who also made accusations about being raped in Guyana as her reason for asylum. She has been associating with drug dealers and money laundering and the prosecutor says she lied about only one cell phone number when she had five. What reason could a maid have for paying hundreds of dollars for 5 different cell phone numbers?
Do I have to go into why? Probably - as most people are innumerate.
Many accusations do not result in a prosecution - mostly ones where the accuser doesn't seem credible.
Many prosecutions do not result in a conviction - especially where the evidence doesn't seem to hold up.
And the BIGGIE as far as selection bias......
The DNA exoneration projects sought out cases where it was likely that the suspect was innocent. Of the group selected, chosen for the likelihood of being innocent(selection bias) 3/4 were guilty.
Hard to conclude from that, unless you have an agenda, that 1/4 rape accusations are false.
“DSK said from the very beginning that it was consensual”
100% incorrect. He said he was having lunch with his daughter at the time. Then that story fell through. Then she was “too ugly” to have sex with. Then it became known that they had DNA evidence. ONLY THEN was it “consensual”.
Do you think that because of the Duke Lacrosse case that it is OK to make up statistics about 50% of rape accusations being false?
Surprise, the accuser is a lying major drug dealing whore who obviously framed the mark for personal profit.
Now how do the cops and prosecutors avoid the mud of bad publicity themselves when the mark has sufficient wealth to assure the true story gets out.
The problem here is the prosecutors, we be Nifong, and that does so much for a career.
Uh...no. Every statistical database available says no higher than 5 percent with most coming in at 2-4 percent. However this could be a setup. DSK was going to run for president of France. Sarkozy might have had a different idea.
Do you have a source for that assertion?
So after the system has culled out cases where the alleged victim “doesn’t seem credible” and cases where “the evidence doesn’t seem to hold up”, we still see a sample where 25% of the men in prison for rape are later exonerated by DNA evidence?
That makes the 25% figure seem way low when compared to the complete universe of all rape accusations.
It looks like the French government interceded with Hillary’s state Dept. and low and behold the once concrete case against the serial perv is derailed. So they go and find iconsistencies in the victim’s story (or make up inconsistencies) after all he’s got all the money for lawyers and investigators while she has the politically atuned DA of Manhattan. The whole thing stinks.
If you are going to rape someone, pick a defenseless, compromised woman so that you can get away with it. It worked for slave owners. Still works for anyone raping prostitutes. The more powerful you are, the more you can rape with impunity. No one will believe the little piece of crap woman.
Business Insider article saying he had an “Ironclad” alibi - lunch with his daughter.
RFI English (and may others) report the French Press is saying that DSK’s defense intended to argue that the accuser was “too ugly” to rape.
So much for ‘from the very beginning he said it was consensual’.
If you are arguing the selection bias's tend to cancel each other out completely - that is an interesting way of looking at numbers - but hardly a rigorous or widely accepted way of looking at it.
Of the group selected by the DNA exoneration projects for the likelihood of being innocent (lack of evidence, lack of prior convictions, heartfelt protestations of innocence, etc) - 3/4 were guilty.
Where did anyone say that? Rapists lie too, though, for what it’s worth.
But let me ask you a question.
What the hell does it matter if she is a drug dealer? If the rape took place, would it be ok then?
Or does the incident of rape not matter who the victim is?
If it does matter, then there is not equal application of the law.
If it does not matter, then it is irrelevent as to whether she is a drug dealer or not.
That is the point.
Strauss-Kahn was getting ready to leave the country that morning. The maid, from French-speaking Guinea, comes into a $3,000 a night suite believing it was empty and is confronted by a 62 year old man in a towel emerging from the shower. He chases her down and rapes/sodomizes her for no apparent reason, i.e., just because she is in the wrong place at the wrong time. I find that hard to believe, especially when you start looking at the background of the woman involved. I suspect the sex was consensual with the deal being conducted in French, the native language for both. She then concocted the story to get a big pay day figuring that some deal could be struck to buy her off. She may not have been aware of exactly who the mark was.
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