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Solo hybrid drivers lose yellow-sticker car-pool lane access
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 1, 2011 | Abby Sewell

Posted on 07/01/2011 3:39:55 PM PDT by americanophile

Sorry, Prius owners. Starting Friday, your yellow sticker no longer works in California's car pool lanes while driving solo. The car pool privileges, originally allowed as an incentive for people to buy low-emission vehicles, have expired.

The change affects 85,000 hybrid car owners -- about a third of them in Los Angeles.

Bruce Yonemoto, 60, a professor of studio art at UC Irvine who commutes from downtown Los Angeles several times a week, said he often saves more than an hour during choked traffic because the yellow sticker on the rear bumper of his Prius gave him the right to speed by in the diamond lane while other drivers idled.

"I get sad looking at the other lanes now," Yonemoto said. To avoid sitting in rush-hour traffic, he said he'll start waiting until 7 p.m. to leave campus.

Hybrid drivers will undoubtedly feel the difference when they are shunted into regular traffic lanes, but experts said the change in traffic will barely register for other commuters.

"To have a measurable impact on traffic, you really need to talk about significant changes in volume or demand, and this isn't big enough to really create any significant change one way or the other to either the HOV lanes or the general purpose lanes," said Marco Ruano, chief of freeway operations for Caltrans District 7, which includes Los Angeles.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: cars; environment; hybrids; liberalagenda; traffic
Ahahaha, now you're stuck with the rest of us in traffic, except that you paid a premium to drive a no-frills eco-car.
1 posted on 07/01/2011 3:40:02 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

Minorities hit hardest....


2 posted on 07/01/2011 3:45:57 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: americanophile

Hahahahahaha


3 posted on 07/01/2011 3:46:03 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.. VOTE out the RATS!)
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To: americanophile

Think this is an eye opener?

Wait until the batteries are out of warranty and need replacing!
There will be tons of hybrids and electrics for sale, dirt cheap.

We’ll see a lot of ads like this:

“Runs good, may need new batteries. must sell - MAKE OFFER.”


4 posted on 07/01/2011 3:47:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: americanophile
Just switch to the white carpool lane sticker. Buy a Tesla EV or a Toyota RAV4 EV or a Honda Civic NGV (natural gas) and you can still use the carpool lane until Jan 1, 2015.

Motorcycles also can use the lanes.

5 posted on 07/01/2011 3:48:46 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: americanophile

(GIGGLE)

Or you can always try MY WAY: Have a lot of kids and take at least one with you wherever you go. (Hint: they won’t all fit in your Prius.)


6 posted on 07/01/2011 3:51:24 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: I Drive Too Fast
Motorcycles also can use the lanes.

But they don't, do they?? They only use the edge of the lane and whip past everyone, which scares me to death every day. They come up around the curves behind you so fast you can't see or hear them, pass on the right, and if you make a wrong move, you risk brain damage or loss of limbs for the guy/gal on the bike. This is VERY upsetting to me. THEY are the ones who get hurt. My dad had so many bikers as patients.

7 posted on 07/01/2011 3:54:33 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: americanophile
To the extent that HOV lanes had any reason for existing, it was to reduce congestion. If they were intended to reduce CO2 emissions; then the sensible thing would be to allow large SUVs to use them. The hybrids can sit in traffic, without idling their engines; therefore, they should be made to use the most congested lanes. Just speaking logically -- not that that counts for anything these days.
8 posted on 07/01/2011 3:58:54 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: americanophile
"I get sad looking at the other lanes now," Yonemoto said.

Your sadness does not support the collective good, Yonemoto. Report to the attitude adjustment center for examination, immediately. Termination of your faulty egoic selfishness might be necessary by replacement with a more compliant unit. Also bring a list of your selfishly hoarded "personal" possessions for reassignment to the collective need. That is all.

9 posted on 07/01/2011 4:04:14 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Yaelle

Some motorcycle riders take big risks. I try to keep an eye on them and move over in my lane when I can. If I went back to riding motorcycles I don’t know if I could split lanes or not. Too many car drivers don’t look when they switch lanes.


10 posted on 07/01/2011 4:05:00 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: americanophile

Considering that this is California, am surprised they don’t allow them to continue but pay an outrageous fee each month - like $200 or $300.


11 posted on 07/01/2011 4:06:20 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Could he carry his pet cat and call it another occupant?


12 posted on 07/01/2011 4:09:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: americanophile

So.... wonder how long that battery lasts, while sitting IDLING with the AC on HIGH ?


13 posted on 07/01/2011 4:11:43 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: americanophile

I was surprised to read in Westways that a Pious’ battery can power the car for no more for a few hundred yards. Sooo, a Pious is not a real alternative vehicle to anybody but a liberal.


14 posted on 07/01/2011 4:13:46 PM PDT by hauerf
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To: UCANSEE2

I wondered that same thing.


15 posted on 07/01/2011 4:27:57 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: hauerf

Mariner Hybrid is good for about 30 miles on the battery...after your tank runs dry.


16 posted on 07/01/2011 4:28:34 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Sorry to be a naysayer on this thread but my brother has a 2002 Insight with a lifetime average of 56mpg over 240,000 miles. Pretty good mileage and its worked well for him on his 100 mile + round trip to work each day.

In his situation, it works well. Battery was replaced once by Toyota under warranty and once by himself out of warranty ($1400).

He is sad to lose use of the carpool lane.


17 posted on 07/01/2011 4:36:41 PM PDT by HEM
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To: HEM

A Toyota dealer did warranty on a Honda Insight?


18 posted on 07/01/2011 4:39:04 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: I Drive Too Fast

“Some motorcycle riders take big risks. I try to keep an eye on them and move over in my lane when I can. If I went back to riding motorcycles I don’t know if I could split lanes or not. Too many car drivers don’t look when they switch lanes.”

Good for you and Thank You!, There are many that don’t do as you do and and there are many riders that have Sh!t for brains.
I taught the MCSF course for 3 years almost full time. Splitting lanes is just about one of the most dangerous things a rider can do. And yes I still ride and have been doing so for over 50 years. I got my first MC when I was 15.1/2, A 1936 HD 80 cubic inch flat head. The local HD mechanic told me something that that has stuck with me all these years, “ Ride as if everyone else out there is trying to kill you”.....


19 posted on 07/01/2011 4:40:31 PM PDT by mongo141
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

There you go applying logic to the left. You KNOW that does not work esp when it is opposite to their sacred teachings.


20 posted on 07/01/2011 4:42:23 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Iron Munro

“Batteries not included” Ha, ha.


21 posted on 07/01/2011 4:43:24 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: I Drive Too Fast; Yaelle

Want to see scary commuting on a motorcycle in traffic? Look no further:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihQeZpwqpE


22 posted on 07/01/2011 4:48:55 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: americanophile

Something kind of cruel about putting out an incentive to buy a $40K car, then removing the incentive.


23 posted on 07/01/2011 4:51:25 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: lacrew

“Minorities hit hardest....”

Actually it’s Majorities Hardest Hit...minorities have better things to do with their money than throw it down the Hybrid Hole.


24 posted on 07/01/2011 5:26:45 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
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To: americanophile
Ahahaha, now you're stuck with the rest of us in traffic, except that you paid a premium to drive a no-frills eco-car.

Laugh it up fuzzball...

How does a class action suit by 85,000 prius owners against the State for breach of contract and misrepresentation sound to you?Guess who will pay for the legal expenses??

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

25 posted on 07/01/2011 5:53:48 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: americanophile
"I get sad looking at the other lanes now," Yonemoto said. To avoid sitting in rush-hour traffic, he said he'll start waiting until 7 p.m. to leave campus.

Sheesh, Bruce...just carpool to work with a co-worker

26 posted on 07/01/2011 5:58:52 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Publius6961

Please tell me you copied and pasted.


27 posted on 07/01/2011 6:01:44 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Iron Munro
Wait until the batteries are out of warranty and need replacing!
There will be tons of hybrids and electrics for sale, dirt cheap.

I doubt it.

Let me think.
I've been averaging between 45 and 50 mpg for eight years, both when gas was $1.85 and $3.85. Same set of batteries and going strong.

Why would I want to sell it?

If you believe the doofuses claiming that I'll have to pay 8k for new batteries, plus $20k when I trade it in (hazardous waste fee) for the ton's worth of batteries (ignorant, too) I got this windmill I want to sell you.

28 posted on 07/01/2011 6:01:58 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: UCANSEE2
So.... wonder how long that battery lasts, while sitting IDLING with the AC on HIGH ?

Let me answer that this way...
I live in the San Joaquin Valley (up to 114 in the summer), commute to Sacramento County, have been in parking-lot stoppages a few times, and never had a problem.
Any more juvenile questions?

29 posted on 07/01/2011 6:06:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: americanophile

Yes, but they got their ‘pious’ and boy do they feel superior.


30 posted on 07/01/2011 6:06:36 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: Publius6961

The car pool privileges, originally allowed as an incentive for people to buy low-emission vehicles, have expired.

from the article.


31 posted on 07/01/2011 6:09:28 PM PDT by linn37
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To: hauerf
I was surprised to read in Westways that a Pious’ battery can power the car for no more for a few hundred yards. Sooo, a Pious is not a real alternative vehicle to anybody but a liberal.

More like three miles on a level road like I5.
A regular car which runs out of gas will travel ZERO miles on the battery.

Your point?

32 posted on 07/01/2011 6:12:12 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: APatientMan
Please tell me you copied and pasted.

For a patient man you surprise me.
What's "copied and pasted?"

33 posted on 07/01/2011 6:16:21 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: americanophile
Shouldn't it be the other way around? The hybrids can idle in traffic for hours without wasting our precious gasoline. Build HOV lanes for the gas vehicles, since they get lower mpg, and save millions of gallons of gasoline.


34 posted on 07/01/2011 6:25:09 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: mongo141

It’s hard to believe lane splitting is legal in some states like California, but it is.


35 posted on 07/01/2011 6:25:47 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Publius6961

All the ha’s. I instantly thought - copied and pasted (I hope...)

No real opinion about a car - If your driving it because it makes sense to you and not because “it’s the right thing to do for humanity’s sake” - so be it.


36 posted on 07/01/2011 6:25:54 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

All the ha’s. I instantly thought - copied and pasted (I hope...)

No real opinion about a car - If you’re driving it because it makes sense to you and not because “it’s the right thing to do for humanity’s sake” - so be it.

(having a beer or two)


37 posted on 07/01/2011 6:32:03 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
WHAT??? What are you doing? Trying to put logic in the decision process. It's not about doing what would work. It's about doing what feels good and looking out for the 'brothers'.

I retired, moved, and haven't seen an HOV lain for over 15 years. I hope I never see one again. I'd rather walk a dirt road than drive in that environment again.

38 posted on 07/01/2011 6:52:59 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: Publius6961
More like three miles on a level road like I5. A regular car which runs out of gas will travel ZERO miles on the battery

you really can't be serious....the baTTERY IN A REGULAR CAR, TRUCK, LAWNMOWER, TRACTOR,(whoops) is meant to operate a starter which will enable an internal combustion engine to operate.....for a thousand or so miles....a real electric car (a golf cart) is designed to operate for a few thousand YARDS, and 4 or so hours with 2 people aboard.....stopping once for a potty and beer break, not exactly the way to go from Chicago to minneapolis...

39 posted on 07/01/2011 7:07:07 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: CharlyFord

I remember my first encounter with an HOV lane. I was visiting Dallas, and saw this empty lane on the interstate, with a diamond overhead. I think it said “HOV”, too. I had no clue this lane was reserved for some privileged class. I drove in it. I eventually got pulled over. The cop told me I was driving in the HOV lane.

I told him I’d never heard of any such thing. I was from the Appalachians.

He gave me a break.


40 posted on 07/01/2011 7:16:30 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: USMCPOP
“Batteries not included”


41 posted on 07/01/2011 7:30:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: americanophile

next step is to make the trash illegal!


42 posted on 07/01/2011 7:34:11 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: gitmo
I told him I’d never heard of any such thing. I was from the Appalachians. He gave me a break.

He gave you a break because you were a member of a minority!! 'Appalachian Hill People'! Don't laugh! it's true! They are a seldom referenced but recognized minority.

I'm a member of the 'Red Neck Swamp People' but they won't give us minority status.

43 posted on 07/01/2011 7:38:34 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Could he carry his pet cat and call it another occupant?”

Not sure - given a cape and a proper tiara my cat might consider being an occupant. Understand there is a move underfoot - probably originated in California - to require a harnass/seat belt contraption if you are going to take your pet in the car. Seems as how we switched from “it’s for the children” to “it’s for the other children”, known to most of us as our pets.


44 posted on 07/01/2011 9:09:34 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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