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FBI to Federal Judge: OKC Bombing Videotapes ‘Might Have Been Misfiled, Impossible to Know Where’
http://biggovernment.com ^ | July 01 2011 | Bob McCarty

Posted on 07/02/2011 8:08:27 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

In a response filed yesterday to a federal judge’s order May 11, an FBI official offered no denials about the existence of video images captured by more than 20 surveillance cameras operating prior to 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, in the vicinity of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City. Instead, he explained that officials at the bureau merely cannot find the tapes and raised the possibility that they “might have been misfiled and thus could be located somewhere other than in the OKBOMB file (though it would be impossible to know where).”

The order, issued by Judge Clark Waddoup in the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah, Central Division, stemmed from the bureau’s failure to comply with a three-year-old Freedom of Information Act request submitted by Salt Lake City lawyer Jesse Trentadue, a man on a quest for answers related to the Oklahoma City Bombing and the death of his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, who died under suspicious circumstances several months later while in custody at the U.S. Bureau of Prisons Federal Transfer Center in Oklahoma City.

“There is no affidavit from someone within the FBI stating that the tapes do not exist,” he wrote, adding that FBI officials couldn’t make such a claim, because it would conflict with three sworn affidavits, the contents of which had already been made public in a post published April 7. In that post, I shared documents Trentadue had shared with me that contain fodder provided by three people — OKC police officer Don Browning, private security specialist Bradford Cooley and FBI Agent Ricardo Ojeda — that sheds light on the FBI’s response to the FOIA request.

Browning noted in a declaration to the court that he and other non-federal rescuers were ordered to leave the Murrah Building soon after the bomb exploded despite the need to move quickly in hopes of locating and, hopefully, saving victims trapped by the blast. In addition, he wrote the following:

That same morning, I observed men wearing jackets with “FBI” printed on the back removing the surveillance video cameras from the exterior of the Murrah Federal Building. I thought this was part of the FBI’s evidence gathering or “chain of custody” procedures since those exterior cameras would have shown and recorded delivery of the bomb in a Ryder truck that morning as well as the person or persons who exited that truck. I knew from my training and experience as a police officer that an investigation of the bombing and prosecution of those involved would require not only preserving the videotapes of the event but also require preserving the cameras and tape decks by which those videotapes were made. Nevertheless, I did think it odd that the FBI’s removal of those cameras was taking place while many people were still trapped alive in the rubble of the Murrah Federal Building and so many of us were working desperately to find them.

Cooley’s declaration, in which he outlined his knowledge of the surveillance systems at the Murrah Building, included the following hard-to-ignore observations:

From my knowledge of the video surveillance system in place at the Murrah Federal Building, an my presence on scene just after the bomb exploded, I have no doubt that the two external cameras on the Northwest and Northeast corners of the Building would certainly have recorded the entire event. Those cameras would even have recorded the delivery of the bomb to the Murrah Federal Building in a Ryder truck and, most importantly, those cameras would also have recorded everyone who exited that truck prior to the explosion. Because of their distance from the Murrah Federal Building, ADT’s offices were not destroyed or otherwise damaged in the bombing, which means that the videotapes should still exist.

In a sworn affidavit dated May 21, 2001, Ojeda outlined how the FBI handled information they did not want to see brought up in court:

The FBI also kept “zero files,” which were reports containing information that the FBI would not generally want disclosed to the defense and which were kept separate from a specific case file. These files were kept internally within the Bureau and typically were not turned over to the prosecution or the defense. Files would be assigned numbers bases on the type of offense or investigation involved, for example, a bank robbery would be assigned a particular number. A letter A after that number would mean highest importance. A zero after that number would mean that the report should go into the “zero” file.

On the last page of his affidavit, Ojeda added the statement below: Although there are many very good FBI agents, there are also FBI agents, including some who worked on the Oklahoma City bombing case, who are willing to subvert the truth in order to protect fellow agents.

In addition to the conflicts surfacing between the FBI’s stance and statements made in the affidavits above, it appears FBI officials are playing a shell game with Jesse Trentadue and the judge.

Jesse Trentadue pointed out that, for the first time in three years, the FBI said that all Oklahoma City Bombing-related evidence and documents are in a warehouse somewhere in Oklahoma City. In addition, he noted that bureau officials misrepresented the purpose of the S-Drive before the court.

“This was the time and the place for FBI officials to come forward with evidence of no tapes, but they did not,” said Jesse Trentadue during an interview Friday about the matter. “They are, in plain English, in contempt of the court’s order.”


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To: Para-Ord.45

During the late 80s and the 90s, there were many tiny little mentions in papers of individuals or 2 or 3 people being hunted down in middle America and killed in shoot outs, and of course the house, or building always burnt to the ground, my brother is a compulsive reader like me, and saw those little 2 inch mentions also, it was puzzling and troubling, and of course a mystery, they seemed to be related to taxes, or “right wing” politics, but it was never explained well, and there was almost never a survivor to interview.

When I moved to the upper Mid West during that period, whenever I was around some beer drinking, conservative, good old boys, I would try to ask them what was going on with those under reported stories, and it seemed to me that they were afraid of the topic, I am convinced that I saw fear and fearful confusion in that region.

It looked to me as though having taken total control of the big cities, and the coasts, that the federal government wanted to send a message to middle America, ‘that we are here too, and we will squash this talk radio, gun owning, conservative fight back, and here are the cut off heads of your neighbors to show that our power is geographically total.

It seemed that after OK city and Waco, and Ruby Ridge, as state legislators started fighting back, that the Federal Government backed off, and all those little, mysterious, shoot outs (with the scene burning to the ground), ended as well.


41 posted on 07/02/2011 11:40:06 AM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: LucyT

OKC-Bombing FYI noteworthy ping


42 posted on 07/02/2011 11:40:29 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

islamist operation


43 posted on 07/02/2011 12:35:54 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: ansel12
It looked to me as though having taken total control of the big cities, and the coasts, that the federal government wanted to send a message to middle America, ‘that we are here too, and we will squash this talk radio, gun owning, conservative fight back, and here are the cut off heads of your neighbors to show that our power is geographically total.

Your comments were extraordinarily insightful and appreciated. For me, Waco was the turning point. Having seen the lies propaganda, and violence FedGov was willing to employ up close and personal, I realized that this really wasn't the country I'd grown up loving as a child and young man, and that it probably had not been since before my lifetime. 

I've learned that when anything really big happens, to watch for the 'tells' that always seem to accompany these events. One of many in the OKC event was that the governor of the state "found" the axle with the serial number that linked it to the truck. We're supposed to just accept whatever FedGov feeds us without question no matter how improbable what they are telling is us. If you express skepticism or cognitive dissonance with what you are being asked to swallow, you're ridiculed as a nutjob.

IMO, at best, OKC was an example of an FBI sting operation gone horribly wrong. At worst it was a case of domestic terrorism for partisan political gain. Either is a pretty damning indictment of the state of our current political system. 

Now, lest one be tempted to express some kind of partisan indignation towards democrats concerning the coverup of what actually occurred at OKC, it would be wise to keep in mind that President Bush had 8 years to Bring the facts to light, and perpetrators to justice, yet he did nothing. FedGov and the political class always protect their own. Further, I would ask your attention to be brought briefly back to the days immediately following 9/11, and recall that FedGov reported discovering Mohammed Atta's passport amongst the debris in the towers just days if not hours (I can't recall the exact timeline), after the attack. Of course, to even mention such a thing means you're one of the loony 'truthers', not that you're just expressing an honest 'WTF?' about insanely improbable events.

Sadly, we've become pre-programmed obedient sheep, that can't question the actions and motivations of those who hold an inordinate amount of power over us, largely because if we really were to admit to ourselves exactly how things truly are, we'd have to rethink our pledge of allegiance and perhaps many other things.

44 posted on 07/02/2011 2:38:33 PM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: flamberge; Para-Ord.45

Video recordings is one thing that today’s law enforcement should not be permitted to touch in any form or fashion. For whatever reason, their “How to handle evidence” course when it pertains to videos just didn’t penetrate deeply enough for retention.

I cannot help but think of 9/11 and the Pentagon. 1 1/2 seconds of the sorriest video is displayed as evidence.

If I was this judge I would be tempted to bring in every retired agent who ever worked on this case that I could find for testimony. Start seeing if you can’t get somebody on perjury.


45 posted on 07/02/2011 2:55:26 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch
If I was this judge I would be tempted to bring in every retired agent who ever worked on this case that I could find for testimony. Start seeing if you can’t get somebody on perjury.

A little dose of their own medicine would be good for them

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46 posted on 07/02/2011 3:13:11 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: zeugma

>>...if we really were to admit to ourselves exactly how things truly are, we’d have to rethink our pledge of allegiance and perhaps many other things.<<<

Can’t have anyone rethinking their loyalties, can we? Might raise some new questions and put somebody in prison.


47 posted on 07/02/2011 3:22:30 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: RaceBannon

I dont’ have it either. Man, it’s been a year or so since I spoke to her. Jayna had the story and the truth nailed but those with something to lose built a brick wall in the way.


48 posted on 07/02/2011 3:26:15 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland

What happened to the arrest in Quincy, Mass., of John Doe #1 less than a year ago?


49 posted on 07/03/2011 5:55:58 AM PDT by namvolunteer (We draw the Congressional districts this time)
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To: Never on my watch
Why they didn't release the videos immediately

The FBI couldn't because the CIA had them. Their guys in FBI jackets grabbed them.

50 posted on 07/03/2011 6:04:21 AM PDT by ladyjane
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