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Minnesotans feel pinch of government shutdowns
The Chronicle Herald ^ | July 2nd, 2011 | AMY FORLITI and MARTIGA JOHN

Posted on 07/02/2011 9:59:00 AM PDT by KantianBurke

ST. PAUL, Minn. — The blind are losing reading services. A help line for the elderly has gone silent. And poor families are scrambling after the state stopped child-care subsidies.

Hours after a political impasse forced a widespread government shutdown, Minnesota’s most vulnerable residents and about 22,000 laid-off state employees began feeling the effects on Friday. With no immediate end in sight to a dispute over taxes and spending, political leaders spent the day blaming each other for their failure to pass a budget that solves the state’s $5-billion deficit.

In the absence of talks between Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and GOP legislative leaders, the shutdown was rippling into the lives of people like Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

"It’s like you are still in the wind of the tornado," said Mills, who works at a temp agency. After the shutdown, she had to care for her six youngest children, ages three through 14, because she lost state funding for their daycare and other programs.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: governtmentshutdown; minnesota; theft; welfare
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Why aren't her eight baby daddy's not on the hook for the monthly bills?
1 posted on 07/02/2011 9:59:02 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke

You know, I always felt that Pawlenty was basically a pretty good guy. Never thought he had a real chance at the WH. But if after serving TWO terms as MN gov, the good people of MN, in 2010, a GOP landslide year preferred electing a known schmuck like Dayton as governor..a guy who ran home becasue DC was too dangerous..then TPaw failed as a governor...


2 posted on 07/02/2011 10:02:52 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: KantianBurke
And poor families are scrambling after the state stopped child-care subsidies.

Oh the humanity, having to care for your OWN children!

How did the Pilgrims and other early settlers every survive, let alone fight and win their independence from England, without the State to care for their OWN children!

3 posted on 07/02/2011 10:07:26 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: KantianBurke
>>Why aren't her eight baby daddys not on the hook for the monthly bills?

Same thought.

4 posted on 07/02/2011 10:08:55 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: KantianBurke
But you'll never see an article about

Minnesotans feel pinch of government functioning

5 posted on 07/02/2011 10:10:06 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: KantianBurke
...the shutdown was rippling into the lives of people like Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

Where to start???

The mind boggles.

6 posted on 07/02/2011 10:10:17 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: KantianBurke
a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

Everytime something goes wrong in government, more and more is revealed about where OUR money is going - this woman gets $3600 a month in subsidies for child care - really? She doesn't have any relatives who can babysit these kids? How old are these kids anyway and what other kind of money is she receiving - rent subsidized? food stamps? medicaid? free phone? heating subsidized? kids clothing subsidized? and on and on it goes -

7 posted on 07/02/2011 10:12:22 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: KantianBurke

into the lives of people like Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

Are not Sonya Mills and the reprobates who screwed for them responsible for their eight children? Hasn't there been sex education in public schools for fifty years? Need we draw pictures (at the risk of the FBI tracking and arresting us for porno)? Why should any other Minnesotan pay for her and loverboy's moments of ecstasy, or did those eight kids result from rape?

8 posted on 07/02/2011 10:12:59 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: rockabyebaby

And I’m thinking the productive class probably paid for all the medical costs of birthing all 8.


9 posted on 07/02/2011 10:14:39 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: KantianBurke
The blind are losing reading services.

WOW!! You've got to give them credit. They came out with a nuclear propaganda bomb in the very first sentence. And continued relentlessly, without any remorse, or serious discussion of the underlying philosophical problem associated with bloated government budgets.

The agenda behind this article is embarrassingly transparent.

10 posted on 07/02/2011 10:16:46 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Principled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKb78kJhaMw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI&feature=related


11 posted on 07/02/2011 10:17:25 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Hey Tea Party folks - what about Social Security reform?)
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To: KantianBurke

So in other words, the state is no longer doing things it never should have been doing in the first place.


12 posted on 07/02/2011 10:17:30 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: KantianBurke

Single Mom with 6 kids. And it’s the government’s fault? This is why we are doomed.


13 posted on 07/02/2011 10:19:29 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

Sorry, 8 kids, even better.


14 posted on 07/02/2011 10:20:21 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: KantianBurke
"a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies."

Why are the good people of Minnesota paying this woman over $43,000 a year, cash money, to have babies? Have yall gone totally in sane in Minnesota?

15 posted on 07/02/2011 10:24:22 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: KantianBurke
So.. $3600 a month for three quarters of the daycare costs of the eight children. I'm guessing the other two are probably too old to qualify for this largess, all so the baby momma can work for a temp agency perhaps earning $1400 a month.

I suppose an 'enlightened' reaction would be simply to pay her $1400 a month to take care of her children, thus saving the taxpayers $2200 a month. Or even better, how about axing all these stupid programs in the first place that leads people to rightly believe that you can have as many babies as you want - the rest of the village will pay for them, care for them, educate them, while you go do whatever you want.

But is there a single politician out there who is even mentioning such a concept? Even paying lip service? No, because if they're talking about things like this, someone might wonder if all the glorious perks that the more equal animals among us in government earn might also be incredible wastes of taxpayer money.

16 posted on 07/02/2011 10:31:20 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: KantianBurke

No one manning the help lines for the elderly? What kind of people live in that state? Are there no volunteers to answer phones?


17 posted on 07/02/2011 10:31:58 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: rockabyebaby
She doesn't have any relatives who can babysit these kids?

In many states the government will pay the relatives to babysit the kids while the parent(s) work. Not nearly so much though; I think in my state the pay is around $2/hr/child. And many relatives will fail the background check that is required.

18 posted on 07/02/2011 10:32:40 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: jpsb

yep we have gone insane- like Mass.,NY,CA,-

remember we voted ventura-( 3 party split)- Franken!- now dipsh-—dayton.

he comes from a powerfull demon family as did his former wife- (she divorced him years ago- he is being treated for mental illness)


19 posted on 07/02/2011 10:34:01 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: ken5050

Dayton won with a narrow margin because Tom Horner took some of the conservative vote from Tom Emmer. It was something like 8000 votes, Horner got 250,000 (11%).


20 posted on 07/02/2011 10:34:57 AM PDT by cryptical (The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Republic of Texas
8 kids....only 6 need day care. Perhaps the older ones could watch the younger kids.
Guess that would be asking for too much.
21 posted on 07/02/2011 10:36:10 AM PDT by mickie
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To: McGavin999
Are there no volunteers to answer phones?

I read (maybe in the above article elsewhere) that volunteers are being turned away from several locations because the facility is closed.

22 posted on 07/02/2011 10:36:35 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: ken5050

Dayton won in a 3-way race; the damned Ventura “independence” party siphoned votes from the GOP candidate, Tom Emmer. The RATS can always assemble 44 percent of the vote in Minnesota, even for a brain-dead drunk like Dayton.

The electorate concurrently turned control of both houses of the legislature to GOP hands.


23 posted on 07/02/2011 10:38:11 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: KantianBurke
B-o-o H-o-o.

I feel no remorse at all for all of the welfare leaches out there. For every one person that truly needs help there are a thousand that are just gaming the system.

Live on your feet or die on your knees. I'm tired of carrying you...

24 posted on 07/02/2011 10:40:26 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: KantianBurke

Get ready to drown in boo-hoo treacle. The floodgate of sob stories is about to be opened ...


25 posted on 07/02/2011 10:40:52 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: KantianBurke

“Minnesotans feeling pinch of decades of wildly irresponsible government spending” would be a more accurate headline.


26 posted on 07/02/2011 10:41:25 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: kingu
But is there a single politician out there who is even mentioning such a concept?

While he was mostly a joke as governor, Jesse Ventura sometime ten-fifteen years ago, when in a town-hall type forum was asked by a young woman who identified herself as a single mom and complained of the inadequate level of state support for her to raise her child, told her that he didn't know why the Minnesota taxpayer had to be responsible when a woman didn't know enough to keep her knees together.

27 posted on 07/02/2011 10:43:08 AM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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Why aren't her eight baby daddy's not on the hook for the monthly bills?

Likely a combination of the following; they're in prison, they're dead, they're waiting for Maury to get the test results back to see if they're actually the baby daddy, and they're baby daddies for ten other kids from ten other moms who all have to divvy up the child support which isn't very much because baby daddy can't find a job.

28 posted on 07/02/2011 10:52:09 AM PDT by Gena Bukin
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Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

There really is no need to comment on anything. This quote says it all.

29 posted on 07/02/2011 11:07:26 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Join the AFL-CIO. The Communist Party needs new blood.)
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To: nascarnation
And I’m thinking the productive class probably paid for all the medical costs of birthing all 8.

And before long there will be eight more people voting for Democrats.

30 posted on 07/02/2011 11:13:16 AM PDT by NJRighty (Under President B. Hussein 0bama, the stars and stripes will be replaced by a hammer and sickle)
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To: KantianBurke

This is what we conservative Minnesotans are constantly fighting - a bunch of bleeding heart liberals in the news media who always bring up hardship cases to advocate for more government spending.

If the stupid RINO’s in this state had stayed out of last year’s gubernatorial election, we would have had a very good governor, Tom Emmer, to go along with the considerable conservative majories we elected (finally) in our House and Senate. Bot, NO! They ran a RINO candidate on the Independence Party and siphoned off votes which would have likely gone (the majority) to Emmer.

Mark Dayton won entirely on his name recognition. The DFL (Democrats in Minnesota) party did not actually want him as their candidate, so he skipped the endorsement process and ran against the endorsed candidate in the primary election and won. Then he managed to eke through the general election by about 8,000 votes. He is constantly looking bewildered and glassy eyed. He is on tranquilizers, a fact that most Minnesotans are not aware of. (That is why the Dems who know MD did not really want him for their candidate.)


31 posted on 07/02/2011 11:44:15 AM PDT by Gumdrop (quq)
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To: KantianBurke

I’m going on vacation next week. I was planning to make a few stops on my way through Minnesota. Not anymore. Going to my back up plan. Sorry Minnesota, maybe next year.


32 posted on 07/02/2011 11:44:35 AM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: KantianBurke; Grampa Dave; Liz; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; BOBTHENAILER
Hey! Just ask Hitlery Cliton... "IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD!!!" (you haven't even read her book yet, have you???)

You could at least get a book review from Oprah's Book Club and then you wouldn't be so shocked and upset!!!

33 posted on 07/02/2011 11:51:49 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: kingu

“I suppose an ‘enlightened’ reaction would be simply to pay her $1400 a month to take care of her children, thus saving the taxpayers $2200 a month.”

The current system promotes idiocracy. I guaran-damn-tee you that woman has at best an average IQ and her studs a better physique than brain. Meanwhile, hard-working people who refuse to put their kids and family on AFDC simply don’t have them. I know you were funnin’, but to me, an enlightened reaction would be to stop paying her altogether. Then the taxpayers who were ponying up that $2200 a month could afford to have and feed their own kids.


34 posted on 07/02/2011 12:02:18 PM PDT by BonnieBlue1810 (Actions make a constitutional conservative. Not words. Not electability. Not "ability to win.")
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To: steve86
In many states the government will pay the relatives to babysit the kids while the parent(s) work. Not nearly so much though; I think in my state the pay is around $2/hr/child. And many relatives will fail the background check that is required.

I'm not looking for government paid babysitting, there has got to be some relative of hers who can babysit these kids for no money, just out of the kindness of their heart. My mother babysat the kids when they were little - no government was involved - no food stamps, no free phone, no subsidized rent, no free medical, no government what's so ever, I'm fed up with paying for everyone else!

35 posted on 07/02/2011 12:09:57 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: KantianBurke

The Blind are losing Reading Services?

Not sure I see what they are missing....


36 posted on 07/02/2011 12:14:55 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: BonnieBlue1810

That was what I said in the same paragraph that you chopped the sentence out of. :)


37 posted on 07/02/2011 12:17:22 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Republic of Texas

“Sorry, 8 kids, even better.”

... or worse. ;-)


38 posted on 07/02/2011 12:22:53 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: steve86; McGavin999

This country has gone insane. Why is it the government’s responsibility to take care of the elderly or anyone else? Those in need used to turn to their families, churches, or private charity. Now everyone looks to Big Brother to take care of them. Truly, we have lost our independence and our sense.


39 posted on 07/02/2011 12:28:33 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: ken5050

Did Pawlenty have a friendly legislature while gov., too?

If he did and left the job with MN broke, he must be a talking conservative—not a doing conservative. On that record alone he does not measure up to the fixing America challenge.


40 posted on 07/02/2011 12:29:45 PM PDT by dools0007world (uestion)
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To: rockabyebaby

I agree things were much better back when people did that. They still do in some foreign countries such as my wife’s India. Now it is pretty much only grandparents or sometimes another relative who is close and it is convenient to them and generally temporary. And not many grandparents can handle eight kids nor would the aunt or whoever put up with it for long.


41 posted on 07/02/2011 12:30:27 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Pining_4_TX
Those in need used to turn to their families

Yes, they did. Now that both adult members work in most families that is impossible. Back when they didn't "need" to have so many things and a big house it wasn't necessary for both to work, at least not full time and more or less permanently. I don't know how you would get things back to the way they were, not without catastrophe of some sort.

42 posted on 07/02/2011 12:35:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: KantianBurke
the shutdown was rippling into the lives of people like Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

Remember, people, this impacts the real problems with social security and Medicare/medicaid.

Yet some total idiots here on FR continue to badger and beat on genuine long term SS contributors as if they were in the same category.

43 posted on 07/02/2011 12:44:23 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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Why aren't her eight baby daddy's not on the hook for the monthly bills?

Precisely!

Pardon me Ms. Mills, I guess I'm just a prick and a bastard when I remind you that each of those kids was the result of a choice you made. (Unless there was rape involved, in that case, you have my sympathy.)

Actions have consequences lady and it's quite arrogant of you to expect the Minnesota taxpayers to pay you for your actions.

I have no objections to hand ups. But I vehemently object to hand outs.

44 posted on 07/02/2011 12:44:23 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: KantianBurke

Ripple effect, unpaid cell phone bills, the GOP should cave before Sprint/ATT go out of business.


45 posted on 07/02/2011 12:47:42 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: kingu

She might even be drawing SS if she has a scam with a doctor who declared them disabled.


46 posted on 07/02/2011 12:49:47 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: steve86

“I don’t know how you would get things back to the way they were”

No, nothing ever goes back to the way they were. You can see that the root of all these problems is government. When we first allowed government to become daddy during the depression, families stopped caring for their own, and the increased taxes made it more and more difficult for families to have wives, mothers, and grandmothers at home to take care of their families and communities.

In fact, what we have now are not really communities at all. We have strangers who live in the same area. There are entire neighborhoods consisting of nice houses that are empty 5 days a week.

I remember reading a WSJ article about some older women who were neighbors and had remained friends for decades. They looked out for each other and shared life’s burdens and joys but did not seem to see how much they had meant to their community. I think these women were magnificent in what they had accomplished, but they seemed to think their lives didn’t amount to much. That is a sad commentary on our society. These ladies were the ultimate volunteers, and yet they are looked down on by modern society because they don’t do something “important”.


47 posted on 07/02/2011 1:04:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: IronJack
Get ready to drown in boo-hoo treacle. The floodgate of sob stories is about to be opened ...

After watching the local crop of losers in California yucking it up on welfare, I'm all boo-hoo'ed out.
Get the leech spray!

48 posted on 07/02/2011 1:46:08 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: SierraWasp
Hey! Just ask Hitlery Cliton... "IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD!!!" (you haven't even read her book yet, have you???)

That stupid phrase again?
It may common in Africa, even necessary, but I have never lived in Africa.
Never have, hope never to have thst particular damnation.

I live in the USA, and continue hoping for infinitely better than that. My children are all normal, independent and immune to the mob "entitlement" mentality.

49 posted on 07/02/2011 2:03:10 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Those in need used to turn to their families, churches, or private charity.

Unfortunately, that is an unfair system.
Families, churches and private charities all expect some level of responsibility, maturity, effort and contribution on the recipient's part. Certainly no drug use or criminality.

90% of today's recipients of "Obama money" fail miserably on all counts.

50 posted on 07/02/2011 2:08:39 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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