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Leader of Pima County's GOP faces removal effort (Criticizing botched SWAT raid that killed Guerena)
AZ Star ^ | 07/02/2011 | By Rhonda Bodfield Arizona Daily Star

Posted on 07/02/2011 1:49:24 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

Pima County Republican Party leaders voted late Thursday to take party chairman Brian Miller’s keys to the GOP headquarters away and call a special meeting to try to remove him from his post.

Miller has been under fire from party stalwarts for the past month, with multiple meetings called in recent weeks after he criticized a SWAT raid in May that resulted in the shooting death of a man law enforcement officers said they suspected of involvement in drug dealing.

Several elected officials and party leaders have complained that his comments pitted the party against law enforcement at a time when city elections are looming and candidates are gearing up for bigger 2012 races.

After questions were raised about the amount of police force used in serving a search warrant Miller said he hoped the incident would foster community discussion of “the policies that routinely lead to heavily armed and militarized local police invading private homes and a renewed interest in the civil liberties codified in our Bill of Rights.”

After Miller refused to resign, the executive committee voted 10-2 to order Miller to cease and desist from acting as an agent of the county committee and return his keys.

Barney Brenner, a member of the committee who voted to seek Miller’s removal, said he wished Miller had resigned to help heal the party.

Brenner said the action doesn’t reflect a rift between more libertarian-leaning Republicans, like Miller, and other more traditional party members.

“This is solely about the best interests of the Pima County Republican Party,” Brenner said, adding regardless of whether Miller meant it to happen, his words damaged the party and the ability of its candidates to raise money and support.

Miller said it is the executive committee that has kept the controversy in the forefront, by continuing to call these meetings to complain about his leadership.

He said he’s been consistent in defending the constitution.

“This is a political witch hunt,” he said, adding, “If they wanted it dropped, they would have dropped it three weeks ago.”

The meeting has yet to be scheduled. A two-thirds vote of the elected precinct committeemen will be required to remove him from office.

Miller said if he survives, he will then call a special meeting of his own to ask the precinct committeemen to vote on the performance of each member of the executive committee.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; donutwatch; guerena; joseguerena; pimacounty; tucson
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1 posted on 07/02/2011 1:49:31 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Funny, its a bit like some “conservatives” here, speak out against law enforcement, no matter how criminal their actions might be and you are labeled anti-cop and subject to attacks and retaliation...


2 posted on 07/02/2011 1:51:38 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

And not to mention the Sheriff of Pima County is a flaming left wing anti-gun RAT, who blamed the shooting of Congresswoman Giffords on the Tea party...

So, who’s side is the Republican Party of Pima County really on?


3 posted on 07/02/2011 1:54:04 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

So, who’s side is the Republican Party of Pima County really on?

B I N G O!


4 posted on 07/02/2011 2:00:45 PM PDT by wita
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Hmmmm. I wonder what part of Conservatism out-of-control murdering cops belong to. I’m trying to figure out where it comes under the general heading of the govt being there to protect the citizenry. I guess I’m missing something.


5 posted on 07/02/2011 2:06:21 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for good a blaster kid.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Yep.

Clowns like Hannity will never countenance any critical comment of LEO’s, even when their behavior crosses the line into felonious criminal activity. For the lock-step Republicans, the law can never be wrong.

Unless we’re talking about efforts to enforce the laws against fraud on banks. Then that’s a zealous over-reaching effort.


6 posted on 07/02/2011 2:07:24 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
You are 100000000000000% correct, some fools seem to think there is no such thing as a bad cop, when facts say most of them use and abuse the law, and many are criminals themselves.
7 posted on 07/02/2011 2:09:47 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“So, who’s side is the Republican Party of Pima County really on?”

The same side as the GOP at large - the The Status Quo.


8 posted on 07/02/2011 2:09:47 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

So, these little puppet republicans are siding with Dupnik? I don’t put the primary blame on the SWAT team for the disaster. I blame Dupnik, the guy who ordered the raid, for reasons he has been unable to explain.


9 posted on 07/02/2011 2:13:27 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

This is why John McCain was re-elected. The AZ GOP is run by jelly-spined RINOs.


10 posted on 07/02/2011 2:14:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Cicero
Did Dupnik order SWAT to withhold medical treatment and let the guy bleed to death?
11 posted on 07/02/2011 2:18:37 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Proves beyond a doubt that republicans put their party before principles. No different from democrats.


12 posted on 07/02/2011 2:20:28 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I think Miller is correct, 72 shots fired with a mother and child in a dark house. Why didn't they just knock on the door and tell the guy he was under arrest? I really do not understand why more and more police operations look like military operations.

And is not this same department that blamed the Gilfort shooting on Sarah Palin?

13 posted on 07/02/2011 2:24:02 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
So, who’s side is the Republican Party of Pima County really on?

The National Marxist/Progressive democrat side. Who else???

14 posted on 07/02/2011 2:25:34 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Law enforcement in this country is completely out of control.


15 posted on 07/02/2011 2:35:26 PM PDT by microgood
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Then Pima County Republican Party leaders should be investigated.


16 posted on 07/02/2011 2:42:19 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.. VOTE out the RATS!)
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To: Terry Mross

Whoa!!! (principles and democrats) in the same sentence?


17 posted on 07/02/2011 2:44:05 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.. VOTE out the RATS!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
So, Pima County LEOs need to do their civil rights violations near election time to avoid any criticism from county Pubs. The closer the election is, the more criminal they can be.

Rats may be the party of BIG gov’t, but Pubs are the party of BRUTAL gov’t, at least in Pima county.

18 posted on 07/02/2011 2:44:57 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

One word stood out to me in this article: “suspected”.

“Suspected” cost this man his life.

This agency became judge, jury, and excecutioner the moment the first swat team member pulled the trigger. All just to execute a search warrant.

Now they want to shut this guy down because he has the audacity to question the LEO’s motives and methods.


19 posted on 07/02/2011 2:45:43 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I don’t know the gentleman and did not know that Pima County even had a GOP organization. Has it ever won an election?


20 posted on 07/02/2011 2:51:59 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Barney Brenner, a member of the committee who voted to seek Miller’s removal, said he wished Miller had resigned to help heal the party

Party over principle.

21 posted on 07/02/2011 2:57:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jpsb; All

I don’t think you people understand the situation in Arizona.

Mexican devil-worshiping gangs are hiring trained Marines as their military arm. The President and Congress are letting local cops fight the invasion of crazed illegal aliens all alone.

People in Arizona are growing fearful - this is how Americans lose their freedom.

All of you cop haters are assisting the gangs.

How about some contempt for a trained Marine who turns on America and is a traitor?


22 posted on 07/02/2011 2:59:57 PM PDT by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: donna

Your statements are borderline treason my friend.

Show me one shred of evidence this US MARINE was guilty of ANY CRIME, or SHUT UP...

There is a reason the Pima Co SO has changed its story 6 times and the local TV Station KGUN has started calling them on it.

There is a reason the ENTIRE SWAT Team hired a criminal defense lawyer.

And there is a reason why the Pima County Sheriff issued a standing order for ALL his deputies to not talk to anyone about this event, for any reason.

The evidence is clear to anyone who has the common sense God gave a rock the SWAT Team murdered this man for no lawful reason.


23 posted on 07/02/2011 3:10:52 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
That would be the RINO party of Pima County, who are busy polishing Sheriff Dipstick.

They are obviously qualified, no spine, no stones, no brains.

24 posted on 07/02/2011 3:20:02 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

So sez the open borders crowd, LOL.


25 posted on 07/02/2011 3:30:57 PM PDT by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: NVDave

More worried about votes than the death of a man by Cops.

Yep, Thats the Republican Party allright.

Not that democrats are any better.

\Votes is all either of them worry about


26 posted on 07/02/2011 3:38:22 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: donna
So sez the open borders crowd, LOL.

Most lame attempt I ever seen to insert ridiculous babble into a discussion when you obviously have no defense for your position.

Wow...

27 posted on 07/02/2011 3:40:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Do you see anyone trying to reason with the people on these threads?


28 posted on 07/02/2011 3:43:47 PM PDT by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“So, who’s side is the Republican Party of Pima County really on?”

The same side any big government RinoCrat outfit is on...that which extends and expands government power...


29 posted on 07/02/2011 3:44:21 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: donna
I didn't notice any unreasonable replies.

Which ones are you referring to?

30 posted on 07/02/2011 3:46:28 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: mo

Isn’t is interesting that AZTLAN people agree with those on this thread?

US Marine is Maligned by Bigoted Media and Police
http://www.aztlan.net/usmc_andres_raya.htm


31 posted on 07/02/2011 3:56:07 PM PDT by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: Seruzawa

You make a great point.


32 posted on 07/02/2011 3:57:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: donna

How about providing PROOF of your wild assertions before you go spouting off, mmm-kay?


33 posted on 07/02/2011 4:02:54 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Not exactly sure what you are saying ~ try it again ~ one idea ~ one sentence.

I can't tell if you are attacking Republicans who stand up against police excesses, or attacking Republicans who knee jerk fashion defend any police action no matter how excessive.

34 posted on 07/02/2011 4:06:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
It's pretty clear the Republican Committee has a bunch who follow Sheriff Dumnutz around.

Trying to figure that one out.

Maybe they are afraid he'll arrange for their assassination like he may have done for that Republican judge.

35 posted on 07/02/2011 4:09:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
attacking Republicans who knee jerk fashion defend any police action no matter how excessive.

You got it with that one...

36 posted on 07/02/2011 4:09:42 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: org.whodat
How did you figure out what was said in that post?
37 posted on 07/02/2011 4:11:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Theodore R.
Brian Miller sounds like an ok guy to me.
38 posted on 07/02/2011 4:20:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: dcwusmc

Gangland - Basic Training (Gangs in the military)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkgEDo72gkA


39 posted on 07/02/2011 4:26:13 PM PDT by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: donna
How about some contempt for a trained Marine who turns on America and is a traitor?

Words fail me. Moron.
40 posted on 07/02/2011 4:28:16 PM PDT by microgood
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To: donna
Do you see anyone trying to reason with the people on these threads?

THAT's the reason you won't provide proof?

I think the real reason you won't provide prood is that none exists.

41 posted on 07/02/2011 4:29:43 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: Terry Mross
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?273092-Brian-Miller-elected-Chairman-of-Pima-County-Republican-Party ~ turns out Miller is one of Ron Paul's boys ~ not that Ron Paul is always wrong in these matters, but I think it turns on the issue of DOPE ~ the hidden ingredient in all these stories coming out of Arizona.

Obviously the SWAT raid was botched ~ shouldn't take 72 rounds to kill a man who hasn't fired at you unless, of course, he has one of those secret WALLET PISTOLS like that poor dude in New York, or someone else thinks the undercover officer was correct in figuring EMNMs "Gonna get my gun" was a threat!

Sometimes cops are wrong and forget that they are walking around with guns. They could ahve easily killed this guy's wife and child ~ their reaction would be the same and the Republican Committee would be ousting their newly selected (by them) chairman.

I think that's what's most disturbing. These guys hinge on the dope issue but the rest of us look at the level of violence they seem to tolerate as normal in that part of the world and we come up with totally different impressions.

So, is the question for the committee the chairman's criticism of the cops or is it that by coming out in the open that way some additional aspect of the spread of doper culture and the money that comes with it might inadvertently be revealed?

Again, I suspect it's the dope. Others think it's the violence. Combined it means Pima County is no place to go for a vacation!

42 posted on 07/02/2011 4:31:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Balding_Eagle

Gang Activity in the U.S. Military (threat to law enforcement)
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/gangs.htm


43 posted on 07/02/2011 4:38:32 PM PDT by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: donna

Now link that information to the Marine they assasinated.


44 posted on 07/02/2011 4:44:40 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
This is so sick. The GOP are as bad as the Dems. We live in a totalitarian Hellhole. I wish this was a surprise. There is no hope for the USSA.

South America is nice.

45 posted on 07/02/2011 5:31:36 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: muawiyah
They could ahve easily killed this guy's wife and child

and we would still get a whitewash by the FBI,Like we have in so many of these cases involving police misconduct

46 posted on 07/02/2011 5:54:32 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Balding_Eagle

Pima County Chief Criminal Deputy Attorney David:

“A close examination of the rifle revealed it appeared to have been damaged by being fired upon from such an angle that it must have been pointed toward officers”.


47 posted on 07/02/2011 6:33:28 PM PDT by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: donna

You accused a specific individual of being a gangbanger. Please provide your proof of HIS involvement with the druggies, as the SD that murdered him couldn’t seem to find any. Otherwise, your humble apology is strongly recommended.


48 posted on 07/02/2011 7:30:42 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: donna

Self-serving statements from officials who are way too closely connected to the killers do NOT count for squat. Better luck next time.


49 posted on 07/02/2011 7:38:09 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Another case of “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” of the establishment.


50 posted on 07/02/2011 7:50:07 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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