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tea party tribune ^ | 7/3/11 | jim funkhouser

Posted on 07/03/2011 4:28:11 AM PDT by HMS Surprise

Fact-checkers are welcome to peruse my post titled Natural-born Citizens if they at any time doubt my previous sentiments concerning the “birther” issue…

I have never relished the notion that a sitting President, duly-elected, would ever be bounced from office because of something beyond his or her control, but that doesn’t mean we can ignore facts. Ignoring the facts is exactly what has delivered this nation to the brink of disaster.

Before the release of Obama’s alleged long-form birth certificate I was of the opinion that the President was on much firmer ground legally if such a document was never released.

Why? Because, dear comrade, much more germane to the establishment of “natural-born” bona fides is the citizenship of the parents, not the place of birth. Since Obama’s likely father was Barack Sr., it was probable that the long-form birth certificate would actually establish once and for all that Barack Jr., although still probably a U.S. citizen, was ineligible to be President.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin; usurper
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1 posted on 07/03/2011 4:28:17 AM PDT by HMS Surprise
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To: HMS Surprise
...the establishment of “natural-born” bona fides is the citizenship of the parents, not the place of birth.
Then, that ELIMINATES Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal from ever being Prez or VP. Their parents were NOT citizens even though Marco was born in Miami and Bobby in Baton Rouge.
2 posted on 07/03/2011 4:42:17 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: no dems

what’s your point?


3 posted on 07/03/2011 4:55:31 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: HMS Surprise

My point is, many of us need to stop pushing Marco and/or Bobby for a VP spot if they are not eligible. I firmly believe that whomever wins Florida in 2012 wins the Presidency and I felt that we needed Marco Rubio on the Ticket in the VP spot to accomplish that. But, if he’s not eligible, it’s a moot point.


4 posted on 07/03/2011 4:59:28 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: no dems
So? ....Jindal and Rubio are not eligible. Lots of citizens aren't.
5 posted on 07/03/2011 5:02:06 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: HMS Surprise

So far the author of the article has not mentioned that that document posted was a crudely made FORGERY!!! ( Yeah! I am shouting.)


6 posted on 07/03/2011 5:04:20 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Did you read my Post #4? The issue is closed.


7 posted on 07/03/2011 5:05:31 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: HMS Surprise

Okay...The author does mention that the White House posted document is a forgery.


8 posted on 07/03/2011 5:06:27 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

So far the author of the article has not mentioned that that document posted was a crudely made FORGERY!!!
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I’ve always believed that B. Hussein was NOT eligible to be Prez. I also believe he is a Marxist Muslim. But, the problem is, most people don’t give a sh**. It doesn’t matter to them anymore than it did that Bill Clinton was a rapist and a lying whoremonger. Unfortunately, the “birther” issue will NEVER get the SOB out of the White House. We’re just gonna have to work our a**es off to get him defeated in November of 2012.


9 posted on 07/03/2011 5:09:12 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: HMS Surprise

I’m sorry, but this post is legal foolishness.

The claim that both one’s parents must be US citizens has never been required by the SCOTUS and would not be. Secondly, he says the LFBC is a forgery, and therfore that settles it?

Clearer thinking than this is required here.


10 posted on 07/03/2011 5:12:08 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: HMS Surprise

Put a conservative with the same type of ancestrey as zerobama on on the ticket and watch the libtard media suddenly become birthers.

Remember the flap over McCain because he was born outside a US state but in the US territory of the Canal Zone, in a military hospital on a military base with both parents being American citizens?


11 posted on 07/03/2011 5:17:55 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: MindBender26
You think like a lawyer.

If a real and legitimate birth certificate existed it would be a **simple** matter to scan it and post it in a straight forward manner. Instead Obama created a crude forgery.... Hm?

Obama has LOST this issue in the most important court of all: The court of public opinion. Polls show that. Yes, it is true that it is unlikely that there is even one man of good character with any influence in the entire United States willing to take this on....but...there is NO WAY that Obama can get past this in the 2012 election.

12 posted on 07/03/2011 5:31:30 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

At one timeI thought I and my brother (killed in the battle for Okinawa) could be POTUSA. However, I’ve taken a different view now that the matter with Obama’s eligibility has been explored. Neither my brother nor I could be POTUSA because our parents were immigrants without naturalization at the time of our births. OK with me to be a plain citizen of an exceptional Nation.


13 posted on 07/03/2011 5:38:42 AM PDT by noinfringers3
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To: no dems
Re:Marco Rubio & Bobby Jindal

Oh, I can't wait. If either of them is nominated for Pres, or VP, the Democrats and (redundantly) the media will be all over screaming "He's NOT a natural-born citizen!"

14 posted on 07/03/2011 5:42:06 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: wintertime
You think like a lawyer.

Thank you.

Obama will lose in 2012 because of what he has done to America, most importantly, the economy. The middle 20%, the people who actually elect the economy will decide that is enough, if and only if we nominate someone who gives them a realistic hope of a better life, free of obsessive government control, free of obsessive taxes, etc, if and only if that candidate comes across as reasonable, not some Christine O'Donnell-like kook.

15 posted on 07/03/2011 5:43:28 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: HMS Surprise
"When?"

"When does the shoe drop? When does the New York Times, or even Fox News for that matter, step up to the plate and take one for the team? Thousands of savvy journalists, computer experts, and more than a handful of pundits are now sitting on this bombshell that rivals Watergate in its magnitude."

Okay, I give up...When?

16 posted on 07/03/2011 5:46:33 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: HMS Surprise
Because, dear comrade, much more germane to the establishment of “natural-born” bona fides is the citizenship of the parents, not the place of birth

This has never been established in the US Code or by any Court, and it is foolish to keep harping on it.

The idea that a unanimous USSC (and it would have to be unanimous) would order an elected President to vacate his office on this basis is nuts.

17 posted on 07/03/2011 5:47:18 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4. If that is granted, all else follows.)
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Unless you believe the Founding Fathers were a pack of idiots that left the door wide open for a member of the British Royal Family, or other royal family, to come to this country and father a child that would then be eligible for president and the royal thrown at the same time, then the definition of Natural Born Citizen was established at the time it was written and is not open for interpretation.
18 posted on 07/03/2011 6:10:49 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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and is not open for interpretation

Oh, OK, I'm relieved then.

He should be out any day now.

19 posted on 07/03/2011 6:12:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4. If that is granted, all else follows.)
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To: MindBender26

“Clearer thinking than this is required here.”

Doesn’t appear you will be the one doing it.


20 posted on 07/03/2011 6:26:50 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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