Posted on 07/03/2011 6:38:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
This isn’t just about the union (although that’s probably 50% of it). This is ablout all the other nonsense businesses have to put up with in Kalifornia, and the knowledge that more is coming. Taxes and regulations, paid “personal leave” (no questions asked), workmans’ compensation, additional health care costs (”domestic partners” and homo marriages for “family” benefits), rising insurance costs, crime... all of this stuff contributes to businesses bailing out of unfriendly places like Kalifornia.
The only problem is that it will drive wages across the board lower. And I suspect most of the new employees will not speak English as a first language.
Miguel Carpinteyro, 42, had 14 years with BMW and every expectation of retiring there. In the backyard of their home in the San Bernardino County community of Highland, he and his wife, Jerri, just finished building a pool
In the mid-2000s, Hiltzik was suspended from posting to his blog on the LA Times (entitled “The Golden State”) “... after he admitted...he’d been posting there, as well as on other sites, under false names. He used the pseudonyms to attack online conservative nemeses like Hugh Hewitt and L.A. prosecutor Patrick Frey (who eventually exposed him).”
For us it started as a comment to this Independent Sources post, and the comment Boy, you guys are stupid. It was signed Nofanofcablecos. After a little back and forth we learned that the commenter was none other than Los Angeles Times columnist Michael Hiltzik. Hiltzik had been pissed off at Independent Sources ever since our Its None of Your Business: Only 40% of Hiltziks Business Columns Contain Business and had been open for his contempt of it (and us) in his LA Times sponsored Golden State blog (since taken down).
While using pseudonymous is not uncommon in the blogosphere it is if you are an LA Times reporter and especially if you purposely misrepresent yourself. After an investigation Hiltzik lost his blog and then column and was reprimanded for dishonesty. That was 2006. Evidently 2008 is a completely different manner and perhaps the Zell owned Tribune cant afford such high ethical standards. Whatever it is, Hiltzik is back.
Yours is the first sane post on this thread. Looks like BMW screwed these guys because they were getting close to retirement. Cheap foreign born German bassturds... it will be much worse when American peons are laboring for ChiCom companies here
great accounting i hope others read it
No one was screwed but BMW. The union tried to stretch them over a barrel. BMW said no.
The workers were not laid off, their contract expired.
No contract no job. Renewal is not guaranteed. It is business.
Age is not a factor in business decisions. Also they might be hired by the new contractor.....if the union stench is not too strong
Easy for you to say. If you were one of those getting_close_to_retirement BMW workers you would be crying out in rage. Bert would be saying, “I have been screwed royally”
They were not screwed royally. They are Teamsters union members who operate under a contract that has expired. The contract was not renewed because it was to expensive and too restrictive.
The fact they are 50+ is simply not relevant to the discussion.
They are teamsters. Ontario exists as a logistics hub for Los Angeles. They should be other jobs there,truck drivers. OH yes, it is California.
The problem boils down to making the fundamental bad choice of living in California....... not working under contract to BMW.
It's a parts warehouse. They get an e-mail/fax/phone order for a set of parts. Somebody takes the list, picks the parts off the shelves, puts them in a box, and sends them off.
I would NOT hire any of the old employees -- too much chance of sabotage by an angry former union guy.
Like I said..... If it were 50 year old Bert who lost that BMW job with built up years toward a pension ol Bert would be squealing like a stuck pig. IOW I don’t buy your jive! Ol Bert would be howling the loudest! Howling at the moon!!
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