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John Cornyn: Eliminate some corporate tax breaks as part of a deal to cut tax rates
Houston Chronicle ^ | 7-2-2011

Posted on 07/03/2011 10:49:24 AM PDT by Snickering Hound

Texas Sen. John Cornyn this morning laid out a long-term political blueprint for bipartisan, comprehensive tax reform, declaring that he could support eliminating some corporate “tax expenditures” as part of a “revenue neutral” deal that lowered overall tax rates.

Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Cornyn said that a serious discussion of tax reform should follow any short-term deal to cut trillions of dollars in federal spending and increase the federal debt limit.

“There is not enough time to get this (tax reform deal) done between now and Aug. 2,” he said.

The San Antonio Republican said there is bipartisan support for “revenue neutral” tax reform that eliminates “tax expenditures” while lowering the rates paid by the vast majority of businesses.

“Our tax code is riddled with a lot of tax expenditures that don’t make sense,” said Cornyn, citing federal subsidies to the ethanol industry as one example of an unjustified corporate tax break.

He rejected the contention from some Republican conservatives that closing tax loopholes amounts to a politically unacceptable tax increase.

“That’s revenue neutral,” Cornyn said on Fox. “That’s not raising taxes.”

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: johncornyn; sanantonio; texas

1 posted on 07/03/2011 10:49:26 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

What’s wrong with getting rid of corporate welfare?


2 posted on 07/03/2011 10:51:13 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Snickering Hound

I suggest they start first with tax breaks for GE.


3 posted on 07/03/2011 10:51:37 AM PDT by comps4spice (Liberalism is a threat to life and liberty in the USA.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Here they come! Once again Bambi plays a little golf and gets what he wants...


4 posted on 07/03/2011 10:54:09 AM PDT by neodad (Don't Tap, Just Drill!)
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To: Snickering Hound
They can call them tax increases if they want, but the truth is all the loopholes and subsidies are wrong and create an unfair competitive advantage. Politicians can play word games all they want, but if the Democrats are willing to eliminate a few pages of the tax code don't argue about it. Just do it.
5 posted on 07/03/2011 10:59:18 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Those that despise people will never get the best out of others and themselves. Tocqueville)
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To: Snickering Hound

They can start with all the Obama tax breaks they passed and signed in to law for Hollywood.


6 posted on 07/03/2011 11:00:10 AM PDT by LowNslow (Retired CWO)
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To: Snickering Hound

It’s Republicans like Cornyn that make Governor Perry look good in Texas, even if he stinks by national standards.

It’s embarrassing to be in a state with a nearly two-thirds Republican majority in both branches of the legislature, a Republican governor, and not even be able to get a measely Sanctuary City bill passed (or even have the governor make more than a half-hearted attempt to get it passed).

...and did I mention our Texas version of the Dream Act that seems to be off limits to this governor also?


7 posted on 07/03/2011 11:02:45 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
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To: PGR88

Welfare is transfer payments. Deducting costs and expenses from what purports to be a corporate INCOME tax is not welfare. You want to eliminate corporate welfare? Eliminate the Ex-Im Bank, eliminate federal grants to “green” companies, eliminate foreign aid which is a round about subsidy), etc.


8 posted on 07/03/2011 11:03:08 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Snickering Hound

I favor eliminating all corporate welfare and treating ALL INCOME (including carried interest, dividends, municipal interest and capital gains) the same. I favor a level playing field without the special deals that are handed out often based upon economic status.

Why should a person being paid $250K in a risky job pay over twice the tax rate as a billionaire hedge fund manager compensated by carried interest?

Why are the banks allowed to carry forward indefinite tax losses at taxpayer expense when they were bailed out by we taxpayers? The system needs to eliminate special deals such as 15% tax on dividends.

The rubber is hitting the road and those that don’t pay their fair share are costing the rest of us.


9 posted on 07/03/2011 11:04:00 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Snickering Hound
Yeah, we should cut subsidies and tax breaks. All of them.
10 posted on 07/03/2011 11:04:41 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: BobL

Senator John Cornyn, hear my words, no tax increases, whatsoever. Want someone to correct the problem, call me to Washington. IRS gone, Flat Tax, yes. Post Office, gone. Education department gone, Taxes, yes on all and every citizen that earns a dime. What is with you dummies? The simple answers are right in front of your nose. Plus if you useless public leeches would chase the crime, waste and misuse of our tax revenue, we would save billions. Sir, it is called profile in courage. You have none!!!


11 posted on 07/03/2011 11:13:10 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: PGR88

What is wrong with having the highest Corporate Taxes of any Western nation?

LLS


12 posted on 07/03/2011 11:23:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: BobL

It’s embarrassing to be in a state with a nearly two-thirds Republican majority in both branches of the legislature, a Republican governor, and not even be able to get a measely Sanctuary City bill passed (or even have the governor make more than a half-hearted attempt to get it passed).

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Slightly off topic, but this is one of the reasons I’m no longer registered Repub. I’m reg. independent. The National RNC wants amnesty and open borders as much as the Democrats, except for different reasons. The Republican Party has too deep an affinity to the internationally owned, trans-national corporations that consider USA sovereignty a PITA. Remember when Rove scolded Tom Tancredo and told him never to cast a shadow on the door of the White House because of his stance on illegal immigration. The RNC’s benefactors want cheap labor regardless of what it costs the USA, just like they wanted profits from China.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1210/p03s01-uspo.html


13 posted on 07/03/2011 11:23:10 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: PGR88
I like getting rid of corporate welfare though... but let's get our corporate tax structure in line with Japan and Europe. We need to for competitive reasons.

LLS

14 posted on 07/03/2011 11:27:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: MetaThought
Here is how you raise revenue and bring jobs to America. Have no corporate taxes,0 Nada. Demand they employ and manufacture here. Corporations do not pay taxes they shift them to us now. If this was done every major Corp in the world would come here. The jobs created and the taxes paid by those employees would balance the budget. The problem is it would take control from DC.
15 posted on 07/03/2011 11:30:56 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

I agree entirely, but that’s not going to happen tomorrow.


16 posted on 07/03/2011 11:41:36 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: apoliticalone

“The National RNC wants amnesty and open borders as much as the Democrats, except for different reasons.”

I agree and it’s painful to have to deal with. There are benefits to open borders - such as the ability to get reliable workers, rather than having to deal with the zombies graduating from our high schools...ask any small business owner who they’d prefer.

But even so, we MUST look to the future, and countries with un-assimilated immigrants DIE OUT, just as the Romans did (and Europe is in the process of doing, with their Muzzies). You MUST guard borders, limit integration, and REQUIRE assimilation, or kick those bastards out.

As far as dealing with the zombies coming out of our high schools - FIX THAT PROBLEM then. Get rid of the public school monopoly, the unions, tenure, teachers, so-called ‘education schools’, and get back to where kids showed up, sat their asses down, paid attention, and learned (or else their butts would become redder than a branding iron).

But sure as heck don’t DESTROY the future of the country because it’s TOOOO HAAAARD to take on the teachers - FIGHT, dammit, FIGHT, until you win and put an end to this system. This country went for hundreds of years with productive kids coming of age, we can certainly go back to it...but we will have to fight our way back.


17 posted on 07/03/2011 11:43:13 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: apoliticalone

“The National RNC wants amnesty and open borders as much as the Democrats, except for different reasons.”

I agree and it’s painful to have to deal with. There are benefits to open borders - such as the ability to get reliable workers, rather than having to deal with the zombies graduating from our high schools...ask any small business owner who they’d prefer.

But even so, we MUST look to the future, and countries with un-assimilated immigrants DIE OUT, just as the Romans did (and Europe is in the process of doing, with their Muzzies). You MUST guard borders, limit integration, and REQUIRE assimilation, or kick those bastards out.

As far as dealing with the zombies coming out of our high schools - FIX THAT PROBLEM then. Get rid of the public school monopoly, the unions, tenure, teachers, so-called ‘education schools’, and get back to where kids showed up, sat their asses down, paid attention, and learned (or else their butts would become redder than a branding iron).

But sure as heck don’t DESTROY the future of the country because it’s TOOOO HAAAARD to take on the teachers - FIGHT, dammit, FIGHT, until you win and put an end to this system. This country went for hundreds of years with productive kids coming of age, we can certainly go back to it...but we will have to fight our way back.


18 posted on 07/03/2011 11:44:09 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Snickering Hound

I’m all for eliminating the tax loopholes and subsidies for shoving phoney-baloney alternative energy down our throats, and conspiring to double the cost of all energy in this country, impoverishing average Americans and enriching Al Gore the Warming Whore and every third-world dictator and communist thug there is. Give me back my damn money, Bozo!


19 posted on 07/03/2011 11:52:04 AM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: Pan_Yan
Loopholes and subsidies did NOT make themselves. To argue otherwise is to adopt the liberal premise that guns get up and go out and shoot people at random.

Every law, regulation, and policy is written by a human, So every loophole and subsidy was placed there by a human for a reason. Sometimes it is to advance a policy, other times it is repayment, and sometimes it is done by arrogance. When it comes to taxes the first two are the most common causes.

Before you close a loophole or subsidy you better have a very good idea as to the number of jobs it will cost.
Should we redo the tax code - Yes; anything more than 100 pages is too long. Should we be stampeded into for “bipartisanship - NO. It has been the drive for bipartisanship (aka spread the wealth/blame) that has gotten us our current tax code.

20 posted on 07/03/2011 12:05:30 PM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: BobL

You’re right. Second generation assimilation and the desire to live here with opportunity has always been the key to our nation using immigration to our benefit and strength but not in such huge numbers.

We’ve had too much non-beneficial immigration since the 1965 “screw our heritage immigration bill” was passed at the behest of NE elites. Little of our immigration is determined based upon what the immigrants can offer the USA, as are the parameters in every other nation. We need educated and technically qualified immigrants that can become an asset to the nation, not the uneducated base labor and gang bangers and gangstas that are often overrepresented.


21 posted on 07/03/2011 12:15:55 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: LibLieSlayer
corporate welfare

You are buying into the commie rat trap by using that term. I agree that we should not be subsidizing corporations, but legitimate business expenses should ALWAYS be deductible in arriving at taxable income - IF you must tax income and IF you must tax corporations.

The current situation is that you cannot pin the rat politicians down using vague terms like "corporate welfare". The problem is, rat supporters' expenses are always "legitimate", but not those on the other side of the political fence. For the well-being of citizens AND business, not to mention to take corruption out of government to the extent possible, tax law should be as static and unchanged as possible. Taxpayers ALWAYS get screwed with tax law is changed - ALWAYS. And oh don't the Democrats truly love to monkey with the tax code. Armed robbery of a convenience store is a more honorable way to steal than the way our government does it. At least you get to look the lousy thief in the eye and tell him what you think, maybe even try to stop him.

The other point is that corporations don't really pay taxes - their customers pay the tax. Corporate taxes are just a way for our theiving politicians to obfuscate the FACT that citizens are paying far higher tax rates than they know. These taxes are just buried up in the price of goods and services they consume. When you understand that, you understand that our government has become fundamentally deceitful and insidious. So by using the term "corporate welfare", you are aiding Democrat argument on the issue by acknowledging that their premise is fact - it most certainly is NOT!!

22 posted on 07/03/2011 12:21:21 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: RatRipper
No I am not... example... after Katrina... the State of Mississippi reimbursed the Southern Company 243 million dollars in infrastructure replacement costs... they were “self insured”. We would be in a deficit right now, had Haley turned down the 345 million dollars in stimulus money from obama... and we cannot afford to pay a huge profitable corporation's losses. No one insures my three businesses... no one but ME! No one covers my losses... not even BP.

Another example was the Nissan plant debacle in North Mississippi... where we will collect no taxes for 30 years... eminent domain seized private property and gave it to Nissan for their plant... but the jobs they brought in are a net loss... because we are collecting no State taxes from Nissan and will not for decades... and people had their lives ripped apart for this corporate welfare.

Then there was the Regina Vacuum Company that had a 15 year tax free deal from the State and Long Beach, Mississippi... 15 years later they closed and moved to Tennessee, where they worked out another tax free deal... and then they will move again when that bill comes due. No, I understand completely. Lower corporate tax rates in America... remove the needless red tape and regulations... but stop corporate welfare from corporatists like barbour.

LLS

23 posted on 07/03/2011 12:42:34 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: comps4spice

HA took the words right out of my mouth....er keyboard ;)


24 posted on 07/03/2011 12:50:30 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: comps4spice

here here

I go along with a speshul tax increase that results in true millionaires like Buffet, Gates, Obama, Biden (and any of their individual donors like Michael Moore and Babs Streisand) simply paying the top “Bush” 35% federal income tax rate

and published tax returns to prove it

Lead on, Barry Moochelle Joe and “DOCTOR” Jill


25 posted on 07/03/2011 1:06:39 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Snickering Hound

In reading the entire article, eliminating ethanol subsidies was mentioned which most, if not all of us, would support. Same for the other “green energy” subsidies such as for solar and wind. But if he is talking about eliminating things like depreciation deductions for corporate aircraft and depletion allowances for oil companies, he is confirming that he is a genuine RINO.


26 posted on 07/03/2011 1:08:13 PM PDT by JeepersFreepers (The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left. (Eccl 10:2 NIV))
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To: PGR88

Getting rid of so-called “corporate welfare” is fine if you mean actual subsidies.

As for corporate taxes, the main problem is double taxation of corporate dividends. This could be handled by allowing corporations a deduction for dividends paid or eliminating all taxation of dividends (one or the other, not both).

The biggest danger right now is that Republicans are going to get played again. Republicans will agree to some tax increases (maybe calling them something else) in exchange for “promises” by Democrats to cut spending in the future; and, of course, the spending cuts will never materialize. Furthermore, even the promised cuts will just be reductions in the rate of projected spending growth, not real cuts in spending.

So, real taxes will be raised now, and a promise of spending cuts will be made now. However, the promised spending cuts will actually be only a promised cut in the projected rate of spending growth (no real cuts), and even the cut in spending growth will never actually occur.

As usual, taxpayers are screwed, while America’s governing class (Democrats and Republicans) and its enabling moochers make out like bandits.


27 posted on 07/03/2011 1:17:32 PM PDT by olrtex
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To: Snickering Hound
Hey Cornyn, you big dumb sissy RINO, where was all this spirit of bipartisanship when the Dumbocrats were in charge this last session? Huh?! Screw the Dems like they did the Pubbies. Take a page from their playbook and give the Dems the middle finger every time they open their mouths to cry and complain.

Show the American people that you have some backbone and they will support you. Else get out of the way or be run over by the Tea Party conservative movement that has Congress in its crosshairs in 2012.

28 posted on 07/03/2011 1:27:56 PM PDT by Ron H. (Help your neighbor find a job - turn in an illegal alien job stealer.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Moral of the story: Don’t get rid of my tax breaks; just get rid of his tax breaks.


29 posted on 07/03/2011 1:29:17 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Snickering Hound

None of your description fits John Cornyn.


30 posted on 07/03/2011 1:43:06 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: PGR88

So I CAN understand, what do you do for a living, as in your source of income?


31 posted on 07/03/2011 1:45:14 PM PDT by conservativesister
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To: Nip

“Should we redo the tax code - Yes; anything more than 100 pages is too long.”

Everyone here is talking about band-aids. We need to abolish the tax code and start all over with the Fair Tax.
Asbestos suit now in place. Flame on.


32 posted on 07/03/2011 2:12:09 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Eliminate the taxes on corporate profits (net) and charge a small percentage on GROSS earnings. Wipes out all the outfits like expensive restaurants, spas, and other business who can only exist due to corporate expense accounts. The corporations can still patronize these place, just not on the taxpayers’ dime.


33 posted on 07/03/2011 2:43:56 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I don’t take issue with you on any of those cases. I am more with you than you realize. But what the Democrats are doing are targeting legitimate business expenses that they currently get deductions for, calling them “corporate welfare”, and trying to eliminate the deductions for them. They are trying to paint the image in the minds of voters that the cases you cited are no different than real, legitimate business deductions that you deduct. Hence, they are confusing the voters by using the vague term “corporate welfare; they are lumping the two in the same category. But that is comparing apples to oranges to give them an opening to get at legitimate business expenses. When they eliminate or reduce such deductions, they have raised taxes on businesses.

The real problem is that the politicians are giving handouts to big business because they fund their re-elections, and these handouts and favors put small businesses like yourself at a further competitive disadvantge. But rest assured, the “corporate welfare” tag, in the Democrat mind, is not really aimed at big business, it is aimed at people like YOU. They will find another way to pad the pockets of their big business benefactors. But we need to get the government out of the business of picking favorites and off the backs of small business people like you.


34 posted on 07/03/2011 3:08:06 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: RatRipper
Yep... we be simpatico!

LLS

35 posted on 07/03/2011 4:24:54 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Snickering Hound.
36 posted on 07/03/2011 9:12:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Snickering Hound; PGR88; comps4spice; neodad; Pan_Yan; LowNslow; BobL; achilles2000; ...

(I know a couple of you are different, but) For the most part, you are all reacting like an emotional mob to the spin by the Houston Chronicle. You’re not doing your homework as you should as FReepers. In what universe do you live if you believe that a left-leaning rag is the least bit reliable???

If you want to know the truth - to see what Cornyn actually said about loopholes and subsidies that don’t make any sense like the ethanol subsidy and he talks about lowering the overall tax rates - and how the Chronicle falsely spun it - Fox has the video up http://video.foxnews.com/#/v/1036571582001/sen-cornyn-on-debt-talks/?playlist_id=87485


37 posted on 07/03/2011 10:22:17 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: hocndoc

“You’re not doing your homework as you should as FReepers.”

That may well be the case for me...I definitely didn’t dig into this. But we are so WORN OUT by Republicans caving to Obama (especially during the lame duck session), that it doesn’t even seem worth our time to give any Republican leader the benefit of the doubt anymore.


38 posted on 07/04/2011 5:35:30 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: hocndoc

I recalling posting that a truly revenue neutral simplification of the Code would be a good thing.


39 posted on 07/04/2011 7:25:42 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: hocndoc

Thanks for the heads up but I don’t understand what part of what I’ve said that you disagree with...but I accept your right to disagree.

Ever since the neocons came to fruition, I became aware that I was not a cookie cutter conservative except for fiscally. I told my guy not to cut taxes until they cut expenses in 2001. We all evaluate our beliefs on merits and experiences.

If I was king for a day I’d treat all income as ordinary income and equally taxable and lower the rates for all individuals and corporations who made 90% of their income in the USA. There would be no special deals for investors, financiers or average workers. An E5 serving in the military would not pay a higher rate that a billionaire hedge fund guy. That currently happens. The E5 should not pay more taxes than corporation such as GE that claims to be profitable top shareholders.

No farm or corporation or business could receive special subsidies - period. This would be especially true for those with an international bent who ship their business and jobs to China. If they want USA military protection then they need to be a citizen of the USA and support the USA. If they want to be a citizen of Commie China or any other country then go for it, but they get nothing from USA taxpayers or military. It would be their decision.

As far as Sen Cornyn I really don’t care what he says. As a life long Numbers USA supporter any politician that kowtows to illegals and amnesty I will trash at every opportunity. They are anti-USA.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/congress/1081/reportcard/CONGRESS/


40 posted on 07/04/2011 3:50:36 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: apoliticalone

As a life long human being, I respect and support John Cornyn for his unequivocal pro-life views and repeated fights for prolife laws as Attorney General in TExas, and as Senator .


41 posted on 07/04/2011 4:51:32 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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