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New type of commander may avoid Katrina-like chaos
Associated Press ^ | Sunday, July 3, 2011 4:09 PM EDT | DAN ELLIOTT

Posted on 07/03/2011 1:49:17 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colo. (AP) — The Defense Department is grooming a new type of commander to coordinate the military response to domestic disasters, hoping to save lives by avoiding some of the chaos that plagued the Hurricane Katrina rescue effort.

The officers, called dual-status commanders, would be able to lead both active-duty and National Guard troops — a power that requires special training and authority because of legal restrictions on the use of the armed forces on U.S. soil.

No one commander had that authority in the aftermath of Katrina, and military and civilian experts say the lack of coordination contributed to the nightmarish delays, duplications and gaps in the huge rescue effort.

"It was just like a solid wall was between the two entities," said Georgia National Guard Col. Michael Scholes, who was part of the Katrina response.

Top Defense Department officials believe dual-status commanders are the key to reducing at least some of those failures.

(Excerpt) Read more at centurylink.net ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: commander; military

1 posted on 07/03/2011 1:49:20 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck

Alright! More government...what can possibly go wrong?


2 posted on 07/03/2011 1:50:29 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Hunton Peck

I hope they’re training for an EMP attack or even a nuclear attack.

I hope that when it happens, US troops will be trustworthy.


3 posted on 07/03/2011 1:52:16 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Hunton Peck
"It was just like a solid wall was between the two entities,"

And there is a DAMN GOOD REASON FOR THIS TOO!!!

4 posted on 07/03/2011 1:52:30 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: Hunton Peck

It was the governor and mayor that caused all the chaos. Then turned around and blamed Bush.


5 posted on 07/03/2011 1:52:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Hunton Peck

A standing army with Power against the people??? No way!!!


6 posted on 07/03/2011 1:57:05 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Hunton Peck
I went through Katrina... in Mississippi there was no problem with our Military plan and that is a fact. New Orleans did have major problems... like snipers shooting at helicopters and a rat government refusing to allow Federal help... but never let good crisis go without maximizing marxist control.

LLS

7 posted on 07/03/2011 1:59:18 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: Westbrook

I hope they’re training for an EMP attack or even a nuclear attack.


I think congress didn’t allocate money needed to “harden” our power grids against an EMP attack. As far as a nuclear attack: we’re sitting ducks.


8 posted on 07/03/2011 2:00:58 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s what I’m thinking. That is, a standing, gay army.


9 posted on 07/03/2011 2:05:04 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck

That is, a standing, gay army.


Let them wear bright pink helmets. They make excellent ....

Never mind.


10 posted on 07/03/2011 2:08:22 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Hunton Peck

We have a fine group of young men and women protecting our interests. Support them in all you do and say!!


11 posted on 07/03/2011 2:12:03 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: unkus

> I think congress didn’t allocate money needed to “harden”
> our power grids against an EMP attack. As far as a
> nuclear attack: we’re sitting ducks.

Oh.

So the money we’re paying for government education, government medical care, government funded abortions, government “welfare”, and government aid to countries full of people who hate us and want to kill us, all that money is well spent.

Is it just me, or is anybody else having any trouble with this?


12 posted on 07/03/2011 2:12:42 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Opening the door to use military on US soil against US citizens? That’s not going to turn out well. Another step down the road to totalitarianism.


13 posted on 07/03/2011 2:16:21 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: SkyDancer
Katrina happened six years ago and we are still hearing about it and the government is still spending money on it.

If Katrina had hit a majority white area the story would have been off the front page in a week.

The government sure has not done anywhere near as much for the midwest tornado and flood victims as they did for those hit by Katrina.

Why isn't the media screaming about this?

Why isn't Shep Smith standing on a devastated midwestern street with tears running down his face, crying about the poor victims?

Roger Kimball asks some good questions

A Tale Of Two Disasters - By Roger Kimble

Remember the hysteria the greeted Hurricane Katrina? The denunciations of George Bush and the Army Corps of Engineers? The round-the-clock charges of racism?The unremitting media consternation about government “failure”?

Compare all that with the formerly mainstream media’s response to the devastation wrought by tornadoes these last few weeks in the Midwest. In order to help you with the exercise, I pass along a few photographs from that unfolding horror, with accompanying questions that a friend sent me.


14 posted on 07/03/2011 2:19:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“We have a fine group of young men and women protecting our interests.”

I know we do now. What I’m concerned about is what 0bama and his buds are trying to turn it into. Putting more and more burdens on true patriots, extending even to having to wonder about the guy in the next bunk.


15 posted on 07/03/2011 2:23:17 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck

It also helps if you have governors, mayors, police chiefs, etc., who aren’t idiots.


16 posted on 07/03/2011 2:30:18 PM PDT by RichInOC (Louisiana has survived just about every disaster thrown at it, except possibly bad government.)
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To: Sacajaweau
A standing army with Power against the people??? No way!!!

Way!

17 posted on 07/03/2011 2:55:09 PM PDT by null and void (Day 894. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: Iron Munro

And does anyone remember the devastating Nashville flood last year? The MSM barely mentioned the worst disaster in Nashville history. Obama has yet to publicly comment on that disaster.

I’ll tell you, if the MSM and liberals don’t say anything about a subject, it’s as if it never happened.

Yes, as bad as Katrina was, what about all of other disasters which have happened, especially those in “red” states???????


18 posted on 07/03/2011 3:13:28 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Sacajaweau
"We have a fine group of young men and women protecting our interests."

Yes, we have fine patriotic men and women in our military. But to be honest, we also have some of the biggest scumbags in the nation wearing the same uniforms. Our volunteer military draws from our ever-devolving society, so whatever problems and perversions we have in the civilian world, are in the military as well. Any veteran can back me on this.

Unfortunately, thanks to our Commie White House inhabitant, a lame-duck Commie Congress, and spineless "politicians in uniform", aka general officers, we will also soon have openly homosexual men and women wearing those uniforms.

It definitely ain't my father's Army anymore. Hell's bell's...it's not even my Army anymore, and I've only been out for 15 years.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

19 posted on 07/03/2011 3:13:56 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? http://www.bigdawgmusicmafia.com)
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To: Iron Munro

A lot of it was MSM misinformation.


20 posted on 07/03/2011 3:33:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Westbrook

What’s the problem? I was just making a statement that money wasn’t allocated to protect our power grids. That WOULD be money well spent.


21 posted on 07/03/2011 3:48:39 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Hunton Peck
The Defense Department is grooming a new type of commander to coordinate the military response to domestic disasters

There is only one kind of disaster for FEDGOV and its Wall St./City of London Masters and that is a revolt by people sick and tired of being over-taxed, over-regulated, and seeing their civilization disappear. That is what all this is being prepared for. Don't you doubt it for a minute.

22 posted on 07/03/2011 3:49:35 PM PDT by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
what about all of other disasters which have happened, especially those in “red” states

It doesn't matter whether a disaster happened in a red or blue state. What matters is who is president. Since Obama is in charge now, the MSM will pass on anything that could reflect poorly on him.

If the Nashville floods had happened during Bush's watch, everyone would have heard plenty about it.

23 posted on 07/03/2011 3:51:41 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Hunton Peck

“You’re from the National Guard? Well, by order of the president for life, I’m your new commanding general, and I am ordering you to turn your guns onto that unruly and seditious mob of traitorous Tea Party protesters!”

“I said THEM, you ignorant peasants, not ME! Put those guns down immediately! I AM ORDERING YOU TO OBEY ME! OBEY ME!!!”


24 posted on 07/03/2011 4:13:29 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: gorush

Pick a Coast Guard admiral; they’re already used to that role.


25 posted on 07/03/2011 5:19:51 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: unkus

No problem at all.

I didn’t think I would need the /sarg tag.
:)


26 posted on 07/03/2011 8:23:52 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook

Oops. Sorry. I was too quick on the draw.


27 posted on 07/03/2011 8:33:58 PM PDT by unkus
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To: LibLieSlayer; Hunton Peck

I went through Katrina in Louisiana. A few miles from New Orleans just over the I 10 twin span. We were flooded out but we had very little trouble. The local authorities acted quickly to the point that two days after it hit the animal control officers were rounding up stray abandoned pets and taking them to a make shift shelter where volunteers were taking care of them until their owners could retrieve them. I always say I might live a few miles from New Orleans but it might as well be a hundred miles.


28 posted on 07/03/2011 9:23:59 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell
Or a million miles... new orleans...lbj failed miserably. The rest of your Great State handled itself well... but that mayor, governor and your Senator... sickening what they did and did not do.

LLS

29 posted on 07/03/2011 9:46:07 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I made a mistake. It was 3 days after Katrina hit when the animal control was picking up pets. My neighborhood was totally flooded, about 7 or 8 feet of water. People who came back immediately were feeding the strays all the stuff they were pulling out of their freezers. It was really nice how people pulled together.


30 posted on 07/03/2011 10:00:46 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Hunton Peck
The officers, called dual-status commanders, would be able to lead both active-duty and National Guard troops — a power that requires special training and authority because of legal restrictions on the use of the armed forces on U.S. soil.

And where, exactly, does this new dual-status legal authority come from?

31 posted on 07/03/2011 10:22:23 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: BBell

Same thing happened over here. People must not equate Louisiana with New Orleans... that was caused ultimately by lbj and his dream of a great society... greatest failure maybe. GOD bless everyone that helped their neighbors and others... Happy 4th to you FRiend.

LLS


32 posted on 07/04/2011 4:59:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: Talisker

That’s a very good question. toward the end of the article, there’s some discussion of who would have command over the commanders, and the attempt at an answer amounts to “Umm, the governor, I guess.” At least, I read it as being pretty indefinite on that point.


33 posted on 07/04/2011 10:46:00 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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