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Krauthammer Challenges Shields: Where Is Democrat Budget? What's Their Plan (Shields Sputters)
NewsBusters ^ | July 3, 2011 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 07/04/2011 7:37:29 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

As he normally does on "Inside Washington," PBS's Mark Shields Friday was waxing moronic about Republican plans to balance the budget.

Not pleased by the fictional account on display, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer challenged his fellow panelist saying, "Democrats have not even produced a budget for 2012. What’s their budget?" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/07/03/krauthammer-challenges-shields-where-democrat-budget-whats-their-plan#ixzz1R98RVLOf

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budget; charleskrauthammer; krauthammer; markshields; usbudget; usdebt
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The video of Mark Shields sputtering because he had NO ANSWER for the challenge as to why the Democrats have produced NO BUDGET is must see video.

1 posted on 07/04/2011 7:37:32 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix

HAPPY 4TH, PJ!


2 posted on 07/04/2011 7:44:19 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: PJ-Comix

I was watching C-SPAN a few weeks ago when Ryan asked the head of the CBO what was the deficit under the Obama FY-2012 budget. CBO said, “We can’t score a speech.” That needs to be amplified and repeated every time the Dems start criticizing the House budget. Supposedly, the Senate Dems may be releasing a budget this week. That will be interesting if it happens.


3 posted on 07/04/2011 7:44:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: PJ-Comix

My admiration for Mr. Krauthammer has only increased over time. He is so intelligent, well-read, and full of “common sense” (not so common anymore) that it amazes me. And he appears very fair. I believe if the dems ever came up with a workable, common-sense plan, he would support them without a qualm. God Bless you Mr. Krauthammer! Thanks for being you!


4 posted on 07/04/2011 7:48:11 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Charles Krauthammer a Mondale Democrat
who poses as a RINO is half correct.

Perhaps he would have said more, but Shields
never let him get more than 9 words in.

The Democrats have failed to prepare a budget
since April 3, 2009 which was 27 months ago.

They don't have to because all Democrats are above all Law.

The DNC has no budget, but they do have a plan
which consists of the destruction of what once
was America: Freedom, Truth, Justice, Equality and Peace.


5 posted on 07/04/2011 7:48:27 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: PJ-Comix

Mark’s response to Krauthammer was, “the dealing with Biden and the senators and congressman is there”, which Krauthammer’s response should have been: The American people want a concrete budget plan, not a dealing with Biden, senators and congressman. The American people want a concrete budget plan, not Obama dealing with this person or that person and not Obama’s examples of voting present, they want a concrete budget plan presented to them so they can decide!


6 posted on 07/04/2011 7:59:19 AM PDT by classified
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
"...if the dems ever came up with a workable, common-sense plan..." they would be conservatives and there would be no reason to have a dem party.
7 posted on 07/04/2011 8:14:34 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Raising Tax RATES decreases Tax REVENUES. Spread the word.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Every single R candidate should be POUNDING the airwaves with this simple fact and Obummer’s failure to lead in this area. POUND POUND POUND POUND POUND!!!


8 posted on 07/04/2011 8:16:45 AM PDT by fuente
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To: PJ-Comix

Every single R candidate should be POUNDING the airwaves with this simple fact and Obummer’s failure to lead in this area. POUND POUND POUND POUND POUND!!!


9 posted on 07/04/2011 8:16:50 AM PDT by fuente
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To: PJ-Comix

The reason we never saw a budget for the fiscal year soon ending (2011) nor will we for the next year (2012) out of the Democrats is that they put all the money they would ever need into the FY 2010 budget, Obama’s first budget. That, plus the stimulus money, bumped federal spending up to near 25% of GDP and they are more than happy with that level of spending. The fact that it can’t be financed without massive borrowing doesn’t seem to bother them. The reason all we’re hearing out of them is that we need to raise taxes is because all the borrowing bothers the rest of us, even many Dems.

That’s why all they need are more Continuing Resolutions, that keep spending at current levels, and that’s why the House Republicans have to keep saying “No.” Each Continuing Resolution from here on needs to include significant budget cuts, and they should only let them cover another 3-4 months at a time. They can use the intervening period to locate more cuts for the next Continuing Resolution. That way we keep the high spending of the Dems and their massive borrowing, as well as their continual cry for raising taxes, on the front burner into the 2012 election.

Then, if we can get a Republican majority and President in 2012, we can get back to budgeting reality instead of the World of Disney. It’s not rational to expect the Dems and Obama to agree to enough cuts at one time to justify passing a bill that extends past 2012. It would be perceived by the media as too big a coup by the Republicans and isn’t going to happen for that reason.


10 posted on 07/04/2011 8:20:03 AM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
Krauthammer is a RINO and a Crypto-obamanist!
11 posted on 07/04/2011 8:28:20 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Norseman
That’s why all they need are more Continuing Resolutions, that keep spending at current levels, and that’s why the House Republicans have to keep saying “No.”

You have zeroed in like a laser. The Republican Party should be proud to be the Party of NO - the RATS seem to have taken that mantle from them this year. Maybe in 2012 we can get rid of even more RINOS - or the GOP has to DIE. I do not want any "across the aisle deals" - the RAT party is the enemy and must be taken out (of power). As Rush likes to say, in way there is only a winner and a loser, otherwise the war is not over (or something to that effect).
12 posted on 07/04/2011 8:29:19 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: fuente
Every single R candidate should be POUNDING the airwaves

and sending emails, putting it on their websites, tweets, etc.

Where's there budget what's their plan?

We can pass on the emails, make posts, etc. but the LSM may never help spread this point.

13 posted on 07/04/2011 8:34:42 AM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Switch off the EPA.)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

Yes but he does not toe the narrow line of total agreement. In spite of the fact he was correct in many of his situational assessments, the prediction was conservatively incorrect and therefore subject to damnation.

The correctness of the assessment must be outweighed buy the purity of hopes


14 posted on 07/04/2011 8:34:42 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Norseman

You are correct.


15 posted on 07/04/2011 8:36:09 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: classified

Obama’s budget was defeated 97-0 in the senate.


16 posted on 07/04/2011 8:41:13 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Diogenesis

Charles Krauthammer has never run for public office under the Republican label. He cannot therefore be a RINO.


17 posted on 07/04/2011 9:03:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PJ-Comix
OMG that clip was so good I can't believe it!

Krauthammer--where is the plan where?

And of course Mark had no answer,just too good!!!

Its too bad we don't have any elected officials capable of doing what Krauthammer can do.

18 posted on 07/04/2011 9:31:23 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Norseman
Great post the Dems have always been the children and we the adults.

They know that when they are finally thrown out of office that we will fix the problem and then get thrown out for doing so since they will never stop complaining about the way we balacne things out and the DBM will put them back in office (if they still have listeners,viewers,readers by then.

19 posted on 07/04/2011 9:34:21 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: fuente

They are too busy trying to figure out how to cave in with grace and compassion.


20 posted on 07/04/2011 9:36:40 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: PJ-Comix

>>103 House Republicans have already gone on record as saying they will not vote to raise the debt ceiling unless there is a cap of eighteen percent of government spending, federal spending, which is seven percent below what we’re spending right now. In addition to that, they insist on a constitutional amendment and to cut spending by half, the deficit by half next year, all of which are impossible.<<

NOT impossible; actually it is quite easy. Cap all federal employess, elected or not, at $100K, no pensions, no benefits. Eliminate Departments of Energy, Education, HHS. Across the board reductions of 25% in DC employees. Repeal DeathCare. Close the borders, by force if necessary. No foreign aid to ANYBODY.

How’s that for starters?


21 posted on 07/04/2011 9:58:13 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey

And add in Treasury gets all campaign contributions over and above expenditures.


22 posted on 07/04/2011 9:59:16 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: rodguy911

The Kraut did good! Others in the GOP should be following his lead and pressing Obama’s minions for their Plan. Would that Trump was running—he would have exploited this weakness. I don’t always agree with the Hammer on things—but he hit that on the head this time.


23 posted on 07/04/2011 10:08:58 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: NTHockey
The Repubs. in Congress keep talking about needing a Constitutional Amendment, but who is holding the purse strings? The House of Representatives is where all funding measures are proposed, so create a budget that assumes all those spending cuts. Don't budget for it, if we don't have the money to spend on it. Then, when the Democrats demand more, ask them how they are going to pay for it. If all they can say is 'more taxes', ask them from whom all that money is going to come. When they say 'the rich', ask them how 'the rich' are going to create jobs if they are having to send their money to the government.

The logic is incontrovertible, too bad the Repubs. in the Senate won't have the guts to carry it to it's conclusion.

24 posted on 07/04/2011 1:44:09 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Diogenesis
Awesome.
Although i like Charles most of the time he does come across as he elitist sometimes which makes me very skeptical of his politics.
25 posted on 07/04/2011 1:56:22 PM PDT by Palin_Rubio2012
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To: skimbell
Krauthammer is a RINO and a Crypto-obamanist!

Oh please.... a RINO here, a RINO there, everywhere a RINO RINO, Eee Iii Eee Iii Ohh

How about something more original. For instance, "I can't stand, hate, disagree with, Krauthammer because he said, dot, dot, dot."

And exactly what is a "Crypto-obamanist"?

Put some "meat" in your post please.

26 posted on 07/04/2011 2:39:06 PM PDT by Texan
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To: PJ-Comix

Mark Shields? I thought he was dead.


27 posted on 07/04/2011 2:55:02 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: fuente

You’re not holding your breath are you?


28 posted on 07/04/2011 3:43:33 PM PDT by tal hajus (ever the cynic)
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To: fuente

Lot of (R) candidates are really (d) candidates, but they just all try to get along. The notion that every elected official is some how automatically loyal to the Constitution, is insane.

The Fact that we have a Black Democratic Socialist Caucus should begin line one of every Republican candidate’s campaign speech, but it won’t.


29 posted on 07/04/2011 4:27:03 PM PDT by itsahoot (Fair warning--I will vote for Palin, if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: muawiyah

Maybe not, but can certainly be a collaborator. Traitor in any case.


30 posted on 07/04/2011 4:30:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (Fair warning--I will vote for Palin, if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: NTHockey
For starters that is a mere pittance.

First off 1/3 of your federal workforce are postal employees. 1/3 of them work for Department of Defense or our various intelligence and national security agencies. Another 1/3 do stuff like operate ports, etc.

So, you get rid of the USPS and you get what? You have any idea what percent of total federal outlays that entire agency with 1/3 of the federal workforce accounts for?

It's about 3%.

You'd need to get rid of 33X the number of federal workers.

Since USPS pay is less than half that found in other government agencies, per person, you'd probably need to get rid of 66X the number of federal workers.

You can get rid of Energy, Interior, Labor, Commerce, Education and several other marginally useful federal agencies and that still won't do it.

About NO RETIREMENTS, they've paid for their retirements. The federal government is not like your township trustee who draws a retirement based on nothing other than his service time. In the federal government the way it works is the employees have traditionally ended up funding their own retirements.

I'd need to live to be over 200 years of age before needing any assistance of any kind from the taxpayers (just for one example).

If you want to STEAL MY STUFF you will face heady resistance ~ I have a personal Castle Doctrine ~ so don't even try it.

31 posted on 07/04/2011 5:07:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Texan
Spends some time listening to your hero Chales.

Sorry that you have some difficulty in detecting RINO activity when it as obvious as Krauthammer makes it.

Chales has spent too much time inside the beltway. He, Fred Barnes and William Kristol-all Fox all-star panelists-like to pretend that they're conservatives but they ALL go weak in the knees over 0.

If you can't see it, you're not looking at it very hard.

32 posted on 07/04/2011 6:33:58 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: muawiyah

First off, you completely misread my post. I said get rid of 25% of Washington, DC staff. That means the fat a$$es in Versailles on the Potomac who do nothing but suck us dry and would rollback some of the hiring of the last two years. Second, I’m not taking any workers retirement away. That part refers to the parasites in Congress.

Secondly, I read your post as advocating doing nothing. THAT IS NOT AN OPTION. A bankrupt government owes nobody, nothing - federal workers, the elderly and welfare recipients, included.

Finally, everyone is going to be hurt. Seniors are already without a COLA for two years, despite doubling of gas prices, hikes in food costs and paying taxes on money stolen from our paychecks. How about somebody else paying some? How about a minimum income tax of say $1000 for the 50% who pay ZERO income tax?


33 posted on 07/05/2011 2:27:52 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey
After saying "cap all D.C. employees" you clearly posted "Across the board reductions of 25% in DC employees."

There are probably 100,000 or so people who work in DC, public and private.

You didn't tell us which.

So what are you talking about?

I'll give you a chance to rework this ~ frequently federal employees themselves differentiate between "Headquarters and Regional employees" and "field employees". Then you have organizations like the FBI who have the greater part of their Headquarters folks working in West Virginia. It's pretty much the same with Homeland Defense ~ they don't work here ~ just a handful of people.

When it comes to appointees you typically have the 11 federal reserve cities with their operational headquarters stacked to the ceilings with appointees.

What you need to do is study the structure of the federal bureaucracies and see whose in DC, whose in the near in suburbs (Arlington, Montgomery County, Fairfax, etc.), where are the military commands situated, what about the difference between the Pentagon and some other federal facility when it comes to involvement in directing operations, or doing political bidding, etc.

Not all the people who cause you the problems you think you have are located in DC. Fur shur your letter carrier and the defense analysts at the Pentagon (which is not really in DC anyway) aren't creating those problems.

BTW, most of the folks bothering you the most would take those jobs FREE OF CHARGE. Capping their salaries, or their knees, wouldn't keep them away!

34 posted on 07/05/2011 6:00:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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