Skip to comments.Dick Armey: On Rick Perry
Posted on 07/05/2011 1:09:41 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
LL: Out of all the GOP Presidential candidates right now, do think any of them can be a formidable opponent to President Obama? You have mentioned former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty on Squawk Box that you liked him.
Do you think him backing off of "Obamneycare" was a political misstep? What about Texas Governor Rick Perry? Many GOP supporters tell me the field right now is not exciting and they are waiting for Perry to jump in.
DA: President Obama will be a weak candidate in 12, running for reelection in the weakest economy since the Great Depression; but his coalition will be determined to hold on to power. The strongest candidate for the Republicans will be someone who provides a bold, principled defender of freedom, economic growth, and limited, constitutional government.
I think Governors Romney and Huntsman, and Speaker Gingrich couldnt win because of their support for the health care mandate and energy mandates, for example. Governor Pawley did miss a chance in the debate by not sticking to his "Obamneycare" line. The activists I talk to are interested to learn more about Governor Perry. I live in Texas, and we have a solid economy down here that produces jobs. He's got an opportunity. And so does Governor Christy. Youd be surprised how often his name comes up.
People appreciate how he is a straight shooter and is bold in addressing problems.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...
Freedom Works is a big amnesty-guest-worker pusher
Tell me more. Do you have a link to that information?
My info was just a comment that Mark Levin made but no details were given.
I put the link to Freedom Works so FReepers could look at their site.
Other comments with LINKS to information welcome.
Below is an excellent article about how conservatives cower, flinch and backdown when called names by the Left (and we need to knock that off) and more.
National Review editor Rich Lowry doesnt seem to care much for Texas Governor Rick Perry. In a recent essay entitled The Rise of Uncompassionate Conservatism Lowry admonishes Gov. Perry for stomping all over [compassionate conservatism] with cowboy boots emblazoned with the words Freedom and Liberty. Lowry, who considers Gov. Perry the Republican noncandidate flavor of the week, aches for the luminous days when George Bush won over the center as well as the right with his signature insight into the wonders of compassionate conservatism.
For Lowry, Gov. Perrys unadulterated doctrine only appeals to the doctrinaire and simply proves that Perry has been spending too much time at Federalist Society seminars. So instead of educating his readers concerning the false dichotomy between being a compassionate conservative and being, well, Rick Perry, Lowrys commentary only proves that he, like Bush, has swallowed to some extent that most ingenious of all leftist philosophical creations: that compassion can most effectively be sold as an organized, planned government thingy......
Nice finesse by Armey. Changed the subject when asked about Perry.
That's why I won't trust anyone from Texas running for national office. You can see how effective GW-II was in stopping illegals.
Barney Frank gets all excited every time he hears that name.
What state has produced someone you'd trust for national public office?
I’m sorry, I don’t get your joke.
Barney Frank gets all excited every time he hears that name.
I'll never see Armey's name the same way again.
Texans are circling the wagons for one of their own.
Real big surprise.
Thanks to GWB for the $12 Trillion debt he left.
You are alive and well because of W’s prosecution of the war with Al Queda
Your backbiting is inexcusable. Your sour grapes will choke you.
One wonders if you are a trollish Rat
Who would you campaign for in the GOP Primary?
How’s your book coming along — the one you’re writing about God?
Rick Perry = Karl Rove, GW Bush, Newt Gingrich, Dick Armey, Grover Norquist redux.
THANK YOU for the link:
Armey went on to say:
“......Armey said this is a nation of immigrants and if you love America, love freedom and if you will work and pay taxes, you should be welcome in the country.
The former majority leader, who is now chairman of FreedomWorks and heavily involved in the Tea Party movement, said the INS is deformed and dysfunctional.
They way they treat these folks is unbelievably rude and callous and cruel. Fix that agency, make it do its job, make it do its job in a humane fashion and then you can control the borders, he said.
Armey also said the Republican Party is the most naturally talented party at losing its natural constituents in the history of the world.
This party was born with the emancipation proclamation and cant get a black vote to safe its life. How do they do that? [end quote]
Ok, so Perry officially has the RINO endorsement crowd locked up!
Like that will win dog catcher, in a year where the voters are tired of same-ol-politics as usual.
Which Texans? About 75% of Texas conservatives who post to this site are against a Perry nomination.
I, for one, will not vote for Perry, unless he's the eventual nominee. We can do better, and I trust that we will.
From your link:
“...In language that will likely be recalled in the upcoming debate over immigration, Armey minced no words in condemning Republicans over their stance.
“Who in the Republican Party was the genius who said now that we have identified the fastest-growing demographic in America, let’s go out and alienate them? This is a nation of immigrants. ... There is room in America,” he said.
“When I was Republican leader, I saw to it that Tom Tancredo could not get on a stage because I saw how destructive he was,” Armey said of the anti-immigration former congressman. “Republicans have to get off this goofiness. Ronald Reagan said, ‘Tear down this wall.’ Tom Tancredo said ‘Build that wall.’ Who’s right? America is not a nation that builds walls. America is a nation that opens doors, and we should be that.”
Armey also predicted this latest conservative wave would not ebb like others he had lived through, starting with Barry “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice” Goldwater’s run for president in 1964 through Ronald “morning in America” Reagan’s victory in 1980, Ross Perot’s failed third-party presidential bid in 1992 and the Republican takeover of Congress two years later on the strength of the Contract with America Armey helped author. He said the new movement, which is writing its own Contract From America, is the first powered by social networking and the Internet....”
How and where did you get your number?
How many Texans post at FR?
Where is the state by state breakdown?
This would be interesting information.
Who is your non-RINO candidate?
I'd like to research their record, associations, votes, quotes, donors, etc.
A question -- Where can I find this information?:
You stated: Armey is........a well-known open borders advocate.
I'd like to find where he's called for an open border. Is that just with Mexico or has he called for an open border with Canada? All LINKS to that will be appreciated -- Canada and Mexico both.
The reason I ask, is that you're in Colorado and us taxpayers here in Texas are paying to protect the U.S. INTERNATIONAL border Texas shares with Mexico (1300+miles borders Texas -- lines up beside us -- all 1300= miles of it) and we're paying about $160Million/2 years out of OUR state tax money to protect your butt sitting up there in Colorado.
So if you have a few extra pennies left up there in Colorado, please send them to Texas so we can help our Texas Rangers fight back the immigrant tide so you can not feel guilty about us down here in Texas fighting this by ourselves, with our blood and treasure.
“A nation without borders is not a nation.”
- Ronald Wilson Reagan
Armey is a blowhard jackwagon, and deliberately misconstruing Reagan’s position on immigration.
Geeez, you're awful touchy. Read my post again before blowing a cork.
About 75% of Texas conservatives who post to this site are against a Perry nomination.
Do you think so? It's hard to tell. It doesn't look so black and white to me as it does to Ed the blogger.
I don't get the impression that Lowry's 100% on the Bush side of things for "compassionate conservatism" and against Rick Perry. Lowry sees that the Bush era is already over, but doesn't quite know what to make of Perry. Maybe "bemused" or "befuddled" or "perplexed" might describe his state of mind more than "hostile" or "opposed" or "critical."
What I get out of this -- or what I bring to this -- is that politicians can really surprise or disappoint you. What went for Bush, will go for Perry as well: he won't be quite what people expect him to be. I think Lowry sees things in the same light. Ed Kainz seems like a very intelligent guy, but it looks like he hasn't learned that lesson.
By the way, Perry has asked for 3000 troops on the Texas INTERNATIONAL border with Mexico and he has asked for drones. He has been refused help. So Rick Perry has visited Israel and studied how they protect the Gaza Strip.
Yet you just sit there typing away and insulting people who actually try to do things for this country. That is your right.
Who ever is? I just would like to see the man get a fair shake from the starting line and go from there. Thank you for the conversation. Here's something else you might find interesting. This writer's opinion is clear. And he has something important to say.
Montana: Legal gamesmanship threatens our energy future Texas Gov. Rick Perry is able to boast about job growth under his watch, noting that over 265,000 jobs, or nearly 37 percent of the jobs created nationwide since the summer of 2009, have been created in the Lone Star state.
He credits this growth to a few simple conditions: low taxes, a regulatory climate that is fair and predictable, and a legal system that limits frivolous lawsuits. According to the Wall Street Journal, nearly one-fourth of the 70 companies that left California this year relocated to Texas.
When new or relocating companies and investors survey the landscape and consider Montana, what do they see? Well, when it comes to natural-resource development, the landscape looks risky.
Recent headlines highlight two major resource development projects slogging through endless legal and regulatory challenges. Investment flees this kind of uncertainty, so Montanans interested in the future economic stability of this state should be wary of the signals we send.
You’re pulling numbers and posting them randomly to make a statement of fact with no basis.
But I’m touchy.
What? It's a personal observation.
I spend a lot of time here, and from what I observe, ABOUT 75% of Texas conservatives WHO POST HERE are against Perry becoming the Republican nominee.
I've now posted the same communication to you three times, and all you've done is snarl at me for doing so. How about addressing the message, instead of attacking the messenger?
Comparing Pawlenty and Christy, I think I’ve isolated why I like Christy better as a candidate even though Pawlenty lines up better with my thinking.
The Republican candidate that takes on Obama is going to have to fight through the press to get to the American people. Pawlenty has not shown any ability to do that. Christy can.
A baaaad week for Perry.
They’re all joined at the hip.
Google “Rick Perry Karl Rove.” See what you come up with.
Here’s Norquist touting Perry back at the beginning of June.
I wasn't trying to be flippant with my 'Texas' comment. I meant it with all sincerity. If I have 'offended' anyone, it was not my intention. I only stated that because politicos from Texas seem to be too-beholden to their neighbors from the south, otherwise known (in correct pronunciation) as MEHICANOS.
You have two Republicans who have been esteemed to be ideal "conservatives" from Texas, GW-II and now Perry, who just can't seem to be able to take a firm conservative position on ILLEGAL immigrants, and that is very worrisome to me. Why? because it affects how committed they act at the Federal level to take on the illegals and the mass-crossings.
I am ready to be convinced otherwise.
Let me spray some 'equal opportunity' ordinance around on this one.
This is a BS statement from DA.
You tear down a wall that keeps you from getting out (unless you've been incarcerated for a crime). So Reagan had it right.
You build a wall to keep ILLEGAL trespassers OUT if you CANT control your borders. So. it was PAT BUCHANNAN had it right all along, going all the way back to the 1992 primary against BUSH-I.
As for Tancredo, he's nothing more but a populist bigot. He lumps all hispanics in one cesspool. I lost all respect for him when he said "Miami's a filthy, dirty, disgusting, corrupt banana republic."
Well no, there is not room in America, unless you think the whole country looks like the Great Fried Empty of West Texas. Maybe the UN could set up shop in Fort Stockton, eh Dick?
I believe in the Old Testament principle of the 40-year seed, and reaping what one sows.
Bill Buckley starts the conservative movement, and four decades later he sees Republicans recapture Congress after a 40-year absence.Then....
Jesse Jackson (and others still alive) build the Civil Rights movement for 4 decades and see the harvest before the die.The tear running down his cheek on election night explains how God makes the inexplicable happen. It was their turn. Soon...
Next I believe a woman (Palin or Clinton)will be elected to fulfill the work done by womens lib activists for nearly 40 years.
I believe BHO got the Peace Prize right away because:
1- God takes pleasure in making hypocrites of us all
2- The Devine hand will bring the downfall of the arrogant Obama Administration. I prophesy to friends that this is (somehow) going to happen. The Inauguration was the high point, and now we are witnessing the long slow slide downhill. I'm guessing a situation worse than Carter in 1980 with Kennedy's challenge- maybe a Nixononian stumble. I doubt he'll even be a candidate in 2012. imho
The Bible promises us that at the end of every age God allows things to get really bad. We begin to yearn for Him. Then, restoration and the accountability of our leaders will return. This happened in the early 1980’s with the end of the recession and the ABSCAM scandel. Those to whom God has given the torch of leadership must be humbled from time to time. But once again His people will rediscover their lost prosperity.
This is what I believe. I think we are weeks! away from something historical or infamous bringing down this putrid administration. I'm uncertain how, it could be a scandal or economic bad news,or a personal betrayal. Stay tuned. In 1996, when Clinton was celebarating his re-election and most of my friends were weeping, I told them that Clinton would be Impeached (the first in more than a century). They scoffed at the time. :) Regards.
You are alive and well because of Ws prosecution of the war with Al Queda
Your backbiting is inexcusable. Your sour grapes will choke you.
One wonders if you are a trollish Rat
Didn’t mean to provoke you. You seem pretty angry.
I thought GWB didn’t have to forfeit domestic policy (btw:just like his dad did with george mitchell) just because he had to fight a war.
I expected better.
Dick Are Me....Dick Armey
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