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Probe finds widespread cheating in Atlanta schools
AP ^ | 7/5/11 | Dorie Turner, Associated Press

Posted on 07/05/2011 5:04:50 PM PDT by Jean S

ATLANTA — Educators at nearly four dozen Atlanta elementary and middle schools cheated on standardized tests by either helping students or changing the answers once exams were handed in, according to the results of a yearlong state investigation released Tuesday.

The report said that 178 teachers and principals cheated, though only 82 educators actually confessed to misconduct dating as far back as 2001 and affecting thousands of school children, according to a synopsis handed out by Gov. Nathan Deal's office. More than half of the district's 100 schools were examined, and 44 of those had cheating, the synopsis said.

The investigators also found a "culture of fear, intimidation and retaliation" in the school district over the cheating allegations, which lead to educators lying about the cheating or destroying documents to cover it up, according to the synopsis. School officials had "warnings" as early as 2005 that there was cheating on standardized tests, but those signals "were ignored," according to the synopsis.

Deal would not give out any further details or release the voluminous report because he said it contains "very specific information" about educators. The results of the investigation are being forwarded to prosecutors, and many of the cases could lead to criminal charges, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
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1 posted on 07/05/2011 5:04:52 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Unions.

Figures.

Public schools?

Waste.


2 posted on 07/05/2011 5:06:33 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Jean S

This is an unexpected and shocking development.

Amish kids was it?


3 posted on 07/05/2011 5:08:01 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Jean S
"...teachers and school administrators — particularly those in low-income districts — bow to the pressure of the federal No Child Left Behind requirements and see cheating as the only way to avoid sanctions.

Another facet of Affirmative Action?


4 posted on 07/05/2011 5:10:39 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: AFreeBird

>>Amish kids was it?<<

Them radical Mennonites!


5 posted on 07/05/2011 5:13:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Jean S

I would like to see a list of the schools as I had godchildren who were in school there during this time period.
I will just say that their schools did NOT serve them well.


6 posted on 07/05/2011 5:14:35 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Jean S

“OutCome based Education”...Shoveling out ‘self-esteem’ by the bucket loads.


8 posted on 07/05/2011 5:19:07 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Jean S

This could be racist. Break it down by race and clear any questions. Which races cheated?


9 posted on 07/05/2011 5:32:11 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Jean S
Just think, some day my boss will be my boss because he is a cheat.

Oh, wait a minute, POTUS has been taken by a cheat.

Well, I don't work for the government so....

10 posted on 07/05/2011 5:33:37 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jean S

My guess is all the cases will be thrown out because of racial profiling...ahem.


11 posted on 07/05/2011 5:39:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: AFreeBird

Those darned Amish kids - and probably the Asian kids, too; after all, everyone “knows” they couldn’t do as well as they do just with studying and doing homework.


12 posted on 07/05/2011 5:42:50 PM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Jean S
Problems have mounted, some experts say, as teachers and school administrators — particularly those in low-income districts — bow to the pressure of the federal No Child Left Behind requirements and see cheating as the only way to avoid sanctions.
I guess it's just too tough to try teaching as a way to avoid sanctions.
13 posted on 07/05/2011 5:45:38 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Jean S
"Problems have mounted, some experts say, as teachers and school administrators — particularly those in low-income districts — bow to the pressure of the federal No Child Left Behind requirements and see cheating as the only way to avoid sanctions. Under the law, failing schools must offer extra tutoring, allow parents to transfer their children to higher performing schools and fire teachers and administrators who don't pass muster. "

Cheating was the ONLY solution?

14 posted on 07/05/2011 5:48:10 PM PDT by blam
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To: Jean S

FIRE every last person involved in this; OH,,,,,,but wait,,, they were doing it for the children.


15 posted on 07/05/2011 5:50:48 PM PDT by joelt
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To: Jean S

Beverly Hall was chosen the national Superintendent of the Year in 2009.

More info: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2011/0705/America-s-biggest-teacher-and-principal-cheating-scandal-unfolds-in-Atlanta


16 posted on 07/05/2011 5:55:14 PM PDT by Atlantan
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To: Jean S
The investigators also found a "culture of fear, intimidation and retaliation" in the school district over the cheating allegations, which lead to educators lying about the cheating or destroying documents to cover it up,

Yea, blame it on the pressure from Da Man to actually teach the children.

17 posted on 07/05/2011 6:03:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Jean S

America is turning into Corruption Land. Yeah, living up to standards is hard.


18 posted on 07/05/2011 6:16:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: Atlantan

Exactly Atlantan...this was all about greed. Hall negotiated herself a VERY nice contract after getting that award (Supe of the Year - nationwide), based almost entirely on widespread cheating. This was apparently going on for a decade and was VERY widespread and bonuses were handed out on down the line. Total corruption.

How many parents wer stunned when their kids’ SAT/ACT scores came in well below what they expected due to what they had been seeing for years on the CRTCs. It was all about money.

They knew they couldn’t make the silk purses out of the sows’ ears so they just cheated. Heck, they got away with it for a decade and if not for some surprising investigative reporting from the AJC, they would have continued to do it for another decade. Pumping out HS graduates with 5th grade reading/math skills.


19 posted on 07/05/2011 6:32:35 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: AFreeBird

And the top administrator, and almost certainly almost all fo those involved.


20 posted on 07/05/2011 6:33:56 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Jean S

They stripped the kids of an education/future.

Strip them of their pensions.

By God...I want to see the list of their names!


21 posted on 07/05/2011 6:44:06 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: EGPWS

You do up until tax freedom day every year.


22 posted on 07/05/2011 6:59:19 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: Jean S
More than half of the district's 100 schools were examined, and 44 of those had cheating, the synopsis said.

Obviously, every single school now needs to be investigated with as fine a toothed comb as possible.

Or do they think that this rot hasn't gone through the whole tree?


23 posted on 07/05/2011 6:59:39 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Geithner: Taxes on 'Small Business' Must Rise So Government DoesnÂ’t 'Shrink')
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To: Jean S
The first “Freakonomics” had an entire chapter on detecting this same sort of fraud in the Chicago Public Schools.
24 posted on 07/05/2011 7:00:09 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: Jean S

Unionized teachers? If so, would not expect anything less. =.=


25 posted on 07/05/2011 7:10:01 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Jean S; Chode
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26 posted on 07/05/2011 7:19:31 PM PDT by Morgana (I never said a thing.....................)
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To: Jean S

The irony of this scandal is there is now no reason to cheat as the Obama administration is in the process of doing away with standardized testing pursuant to the union’s wishes and no failed schools will be closed. No Child Left behind was Bush’s biggest mistake. It was only a matter of time before the Dems took control, and kept the increased spending of No Child Left Behind but did away with all testing standards.


27 posted on 07/05/2011 7:29:01 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: Atlantan

This clown superintendent originally was from San Fran?? No wonder the system failed.


28 posted on 07/05/2011 8:01:21 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FAK BARAK)
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To: Atlantan

Thanks for the link to the CSM story.


29 posted on 07/05/2011 8:18:09 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Yesterday Argentina, Today Greece, Tomorrow America)
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To: Bob
I guess it's just too tough to try teaching as a way to avoid sanctions.

Do you think *you* could teach a classroom of kids who were not interested in learning?

30 posted on 07/05/2011 8:21:04 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Iron Munro

This is happening all over, not just in urban districts; the dirty secret of public education is that over the past twenty years learning has nose-dived all over (as the quality of teachers declines), and most parents who think their children are getting any kind of public education would be shocked at how little their children are learning.

Much of the urban perception that learning is “acting white” has spread out to the suburbs, where white children try to prove how “street” they are; teachers across the board are cheating like this to avoid the No Child Left Behind ramifications of failure. Good teachers complain that because they don’t change answers, their classes fare the worst on standardized tests, and this reflects on them. People should also consider this when merit pay is discussed for teachers; I agree with the concept, but there is tremendous incentive for teachers to engage in even more of this dishonesty.


31 posted on 07/05/2011 8:36:25 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Jean S

“or changing the answers once exams were handed in,”

Back in the day a poor student would cheat by looking at the answers that a good student wrote down.


32 posted on 07/05/2011 8:55:54 PM PDT by Augie
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To: Atlantan

Thanks for link.


33 posted on 07/05/2011 9:07:33 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: ladyjane
Do you think *you* could teach a classroom of kids who were not interested in learning?

Your point is very valid. Schooling begins at home with parents that promote learning as a priority. The breakdown of the family unit (especially in minority families) often make teaching difficult as best.

34 posted on 07/05/2011 9:10:24 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: Da Coyote
Not only do many schools cheat on testing.........but also with attendance records.........

8:}

35 posted on 07/05/2011 9:13:35 PM PDT by AwesomePossum (I have never looked this forward to a November II........)
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36 posted on 07/05/2011 9:25:43 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Jean S

“... which lead to educators lying ...”

Um, “lead”?


37 posted on 07/05/2011 10:29:45 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: ladyjane

Good post. I am no fan of ‘educators,” but it is nearly a hopeless cause when kids do not want to learn.


38 posted on 07/05/2011 11:13:14 PM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: Iron Munro

God don’t teach the kids cheat on the test. That’s the answer huh? We had SAT tests in the 1950’s and 1960’s. I don’t remember any teacher cheating to better the score. They actually wanted to see where the students needed improvement!


39 posted on 07/05/2011 11:36:12 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Jean S

One of my favorite songs is “Oh Atlanta” - Little Feat. It’s “Oh Atlanta” where the liberals have been screwing the people for over 50 years. When you have a once great newspaper like the Atlanta Constitution Journal, now the Atlanta Constipation Journal, refusing to print the truth about many social issues, and covering up for a communist like Johnnetta Cole (Spelman College) (she was a Castroite operative for Cuban fronts such as the Venceremos Brigade), then you can see why people don’t know shit down there.

It is the kids who suffer from all this dishonesty and no one wants to talk about it. This is the real racism, white, liberal racism aided and abetted by black welfare-plantation mentality addicts (vote for the Democrats and we will keep you addicted to welfare, entitlement, and victim-status).

Where is a Sherman who will liberate these people from their liberal oppressors?


40 posted on 07/06/2011 12:05:55 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: AFreeBird

“Amish kids was it?”

Given that this is Atlanta we’re talking about, it must have been the Southern Baptists wielding casseroles.

You know about the power of casseroles, don’t you?


41 posted on 07/06/2011 12:42:00 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: chuckee

Sad BTTT!

I hate what they (all politicians) are doing to our future generations.


42 posted on 07/06/2011 12:45:09 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: kearnyirish2

And, then there are those who choose homeschooling and private schools.

We’ll see where those students end up.

BTW, I totally agree with you on merit pay. We need incentives for teachers who perform well.


43 posted on 07/06/2011 12:49:29 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: kearnyirish2

One more thing...it’s good to “see” you again! ;o)


44 posted on 07/06/2011 12:52:22 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: Iron Munro; Da Coyote
"...teachers and school administrators — particularly those in low-income districts — bow to the pressure of the federal No Child Left Behind requirements and see cheating as the only way to avoid sanctions.

This is the real problem. It is a cultural one, and it is now very, very deep. Everyone knows education is important, and everyone sees it as essential for the kids to get a good education, which gives the left the lever they need. Setting up "targets" for improvements, with penalties for not achieving, sounds really good at first glance, but slowly and surely it sets up an appalling mindset. To avoid criticism, educators redirect their priorities from teaching kids actual useful things they might need to know, and towards teaching them how to pass exams. And of course they cheat - not neccesarily as badly as in this article, but by telling kids answers, giving them assistance so blatant that they never have a chance to understand - I've heard of schools where teachers virtually write the essays for their pupils.

The really pernicious thing is that once one batch of teachers (or administrators - they are probably even more culpable) are doing this kind of thing, others have little choice but to follow suit. Think on it. If other teachers are getting their pupils through the courses by making it easy, then their results are better than yours. You come over as being a "bad" teacher. And as your chance of promotion and even re-employment is based on how well your pupils do, then obviously if you want to keep up you have to "cheat" too. "No child left behind" and similar programs paradoxically encourage lower standards.

The honest truth that leftists leave out is that achievement at school is not solely determined by the educators. You can have the finest teachers and best teacher pupil ratios going. You can offer every opportunity to your pupils, but in the end they have to play their part too. If they insist on slobbing around and jerking off then they will fail, and as far as I'm concerned if they do do that they should fail.

45 posted on 07/06/2011 1:54:51 AM PDT by Vanders9
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Cheating to avoid sanctions? Everyone of these cheating "education professionals" as they like to call themselves should be FIRED.

In private schools I'm familiar with cheating like this wasn't possible. Proctors for standardizes tests were randomly assigned outsiders, answers were collected and sealed immediately.

46 posted on 07/06/2011 1:58:17 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Vanders9

I would believe that the anecdotes given are very predominate in the bunch of teachers that just their vote to Obama. Another showing of why unions and membership should not be a required factor for any public or private employee. Unions have outlived an honorable societal function.


47 posted on 07/06/2011 2:17:55 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: chuckee

In contrast the school I was in had 3 quizzes and 3 exams every WEEK, to keep us on our toes. Sure it was tough but it gave the students tremendous work ethic. I look at where my classmates are now and all of them are doing extremely well in life. Sadly I attended those schools abroad but there are many branches of the SABIS system in the US. I think there are 10 of them, and 2 of them placed int he top 10% of highschools. When I have children I will want them to go to those schools as I cant seem to trust the educational system, plus I know what I would be getting enrolling them there. I would want them to be challenged and not just have fun fun fun all through school. Life is tough and requires hard work and is something they need to learn early on.


48 posted on 07/06/2011 3:05:53 AM PDT by hannibaal
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To: Jean S

Here’s the latest news.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/investigation-into-aps-cheating-1001375.html


49 posted on 07/06/2011 4:16:34 AM PDT by Atlantan
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Ah, Atlanta - a Yankee enclave in the midst of the Conservative South. I can’t say I’m surprised.


50 posted on 07/06/2011 4:32:34 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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