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Stay rejected for girl's Mexican killer
The Houston Chronicle ^ | July 5, 2011 | ALLAN TURNER

Posted on 07/05/2011 8:21:39 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

Edited on 07/05/2011 8:23:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Texas thumbed its nose at the White House and the United Nations on Tuesday as it cleared the way for Thursday's execution of Humberto Leal Garcia Jr., a Mexican national who was denied access to his nation's consulate after being arrested for a San Antonio rape-murder.


(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alien; immigration; mexico; mexicution; mx; texacution; texas; tx
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Don't Mess With Texas....
1 posted on 07/05/2011 8:21:42 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Shades of Dukakis.

If Perry runs he can beat Zero and Dums about the head for siding with murderers and illegal murderers at that.


2 posted on 07/05/2011 8:24:19 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: moonshinner_09

adios


3 posted on 07/05/2011 8:25:25 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: moonshinner_09

Bfl.


4 posted on 07/05/2011 8:25:57 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: moonshinner_09

The only thing I don’t like about Texas is The Dallas Cowboys”. (Flame suit on). Fry him, not me.


5 posted on 07/05/2011 8:26:31 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: moonshinner_09

YESSS!


6 posted on 07/05/2011 8:26:44 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: moonshinner_09

It almost seems that Obama WANTS to run against Perry. He knew full-well that there was no way he was going to interfere and still be viable.

So what weakness does Obama see in Perry...I see many, but I’m going to sleep now.


7 posted on 07/05/2011 8:27:07 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Marty62

You’re right. One mexican against how may Texans raped, murdered, robbed. Good trade.


8 posted on 07/05/2011 8:28:48 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

You’re not the only one who likes everything about Texas but the Cowboys (and maybe the Longhorns too. That’s a pretty liberal school).


9 posted on 07/05/2011 8:29:10 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: moonshinner_09
a bill introduced by Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, that would provide for federal review of capital cases involving foreigners denied consulate contact.

Good to see Senator Leahy looking out for foreigners. What about citizens? Isn't that what his job is all about?

10 posted on 07/05/2011 8:29:54 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: moonshinner_09
God Blessed Texas and God continues to Bless Texas. This is right and this is just.

My only regret is that this debris wasn't executed on July Fourth as a symbol of our Independence.

11 posted on 07/05/2011 8:30:47 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Was the “girl” an American or Mexican citizen?


12 posted on 07/05/2011 8:30:51 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: moonshinner_09

I also think it’s important for people to see just how DISCONNECTED liberals (including Bush-43, in this case) are from the CRIME that was committed within our state.

I have no doubt that this Illegal knew how Texas deals with these acts (I doubt anyone in the world doesn’t know)...so maybe he should have thought twice and did his deed in California - where he would get a lot of sympathy.


13 posted on 07/05/2011 8:31:43 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: moonshinner_09

In Texas, we have the death penalty and we use it. If you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back. (Ron “tater” White)


14 posted on 07/05/2011 8:32:04 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: moonshinner_09

In Texas, we have the death penalty and we use it. If you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back. (Ron “tater” White)


15 posted on 07/05/2011 8:32:13 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: BobL
Obama siding with the rapist of a 16 year old was not smart.

That can be turned into a nation-wide campaign ad.

Rick Perry stood up against Obama to protect the country while Obama defended a child rapist.
16 posted on 07/05/2011 8:32:51 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: moonshinner_09

Everyone turn off one light bulb in their house - let’s make sure the grid has ample juice to cook this dirtbag.


17 posted on 07/05/2011 8:33:36 PM PDT by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: bwc2221
I like the Texan’s propensity to defy the Federal government. I wish more states would follow this model. It would solve many things that are wrong with our country.
18 posted on 07/05/2011 8:34:29 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: moonshinner_09

Here is why I agree with Texas’ decision. I think my logic is their logic.

The guy is Hispanic and was living in Texas for 16 years (was 18 then).

For all intents and purposes he was American, wnet to American schools. Considered himself American as the American lifestyle was all he knew. He did not know he could ask to meet with mexican consulate officials before talking with police. A mexican national would be more likely to know that, they’d certainly know they were a mexican citizen and not a US citizen.

Now does Texas, every time they arrest and detain a hispanic person, of which millions reside in Texas, have to ask if they are citizens or ask if they want to speak with Mexican consulate officials before they can question them?

Further, in this particular case how would it have made a difference? Are the mexican consulate officials going to tell him not to tell the truth to police or give him advice not to talk with police? Not to admit he did it? He did confess to police he did it.

Hispanics in the US - if they do not say they want to have mexican officials meet with them before questioning for crimes, and say they are mexican citizens, we ought to assume that this means they are US citizens. That is exactly what Texas assumed. It is not an unreasonable assumption.


19 posted on 07/05/2011 8:36:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: moonshinner_09

TX to Leal: “Adios Mofo”


20 posted on 07/05/2011 8:37:49 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Say No to Slick Willard)
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To: TheDon

“Was the “girl” an American or Mexican citizen?”

Why does it matter? Murder is murder.


21 posted on 07/05/2011 8:39:03 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: BobL
It almost seems that Obama WANTS to run against Perry.

I think that might be true.

Obama wants to call Perry "Bush II," since Perry was Bush's Lt. Governor and his successor. That way, Obama can rerun the 2008 campaign and make it about Bush again.

Obama will call Perry "Lt. Bush" and ask Americans if they want to go back to the Bush policies that got us here.

-PJ

22 posted on 07/05/2011 8:40:19 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: moonshinner_09

As the comedian Ron White said, “ You come to Texas and kill us, we’ll kill you back.”


23 posted on 07/05/2011 8:44:00 PM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: TheDon
Not sure, her first name is of Italian origin while her last name is Spanish. But keep in mind that Texas has a large population of Spanish origin families who have lived there since long before Texas was a state.

Besides which, it doesn't matter if she's a citizen or not, legal or not, she was murdered in the state of Texas and the Lone Star State will see that justice is done.

24 posted on 07/05/2011 8:45:29 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: moonshinner_09

Hasta la Muerta, Humberto.


25 posted on 07/05/2011 8:47:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Perry had not made a decision by Tuesday evening, Perry spokeswoman Katherine Cesinger said in an emailed statement, adding, “That said, if you commit the most heinous of crimes in Texas, you can expect to face the ultimate penalty under our laws, as in this case, where Leal was convicted of raping and bludgeoning a 16-year-old girl to death.”

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/State-board-rejects-request-to-stay-execution-in-1453632.php#ixzz1RID3pOH9


26 posted on 07/05/2011 8:49:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Secret Agent Man

Great point. The left got their collective panties in a bunch over Arizona’s recent illegal alien invader law. They become apoplectic at the notion of inquiring as to a law-breakers legal status. Now saps like leaky would have us verify status in an effort to frustrate prosecution of criminal behavior.

I know libs are wishy-washy but this is ridiculous!


27 posted on 07/05/2011 8:50:48 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: moonshinner_09

In the event the Supreme Court fails to act, the Republican governor of Texas, Rick Perry – who may seek the GOP Presidential nomination next year – might intervene.

If Perry gets involved, Leal’s days will be numbered.
In his decade in power, Perry has rejected clemency in 230 executions in the state.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/174900/20110705/obama-perry-texas-death-penalty-humberto-leal.htm


28 posted on 07/05/2011 8:58:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: TheDon

She was sixteen years old and brutally raped and murdered. She was a human being snuffed out before her time by this animal. Her citizenship status is irrelevant.


29 posted on 07/05/2011 8:58:16 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: rockrr

OK, we compromise, we finish off this dirt bag and then send to Mexico those who were involved in the decision to go forward with the gun walker matter. In fact, we can start at the top.


30 posted on 07/05/2011 8:59:30 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Cowboys are debating a name change. 2 options on the table are Possums and tampons.

Possums: because they play dead at home and get killed on the road.
Tampons: because they’re only good for one period and don’t have a 2nd string


31 posted on 07/05/2011 8:59:59 PM PDT by Tx Angel
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To: RobertClark

Texas uses the needle. Thank you, nonetheless, for your suggestion to conserve energy. I, for one, would like to have seen Old Sparky brought back for one final hurrah. If it didn’t work the first time, just keep at it until this rabid animal was finally put down.


32 posted on 07/05/2011 9:01:08 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Plus if TX required police to ask a Hispanic about his citizenship status, the Feds would then say that TX was acting illegally.


33 posted on 07/05/2011 9:04:00 PM PDT by Belle22
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To: Secret Agent Man

Anything else would be RACIST!!


34 posted on 07/05/2011 9:05:42 PM PDT by notatard?
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Obama siding with the rapist of a 16 year old was not smart.

Agreed. It's something that, for example, Bill Clinton would have avoided. Obama let his emotions get the better of him.

35 posted on 07/05/2011 9:08:53 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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To: moonshinner_09
'If you come here and kill one of us, We. Will. Kill. You. Back.' Ron White does a great job of explaining justice in Texas.

/johnny

36 posted on 07/05/2011 9:09:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: nuvista

Excellent quote


37 posted on 07/05/2011 9:10:00 PM PDT by sonic109 (OBAMA IS A TROJAN HORSE)
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To: CajunConservative; TheDon

Indeed, the crime was a parent’s worst nightmare (not to forget the victim).

Does the SC have any jurisdiction ? They’ve already said it’s a state matter until a new law is passed.


38 posted on 07/05/2011 9:11:46 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: moonshinner_09
I'm willing to compromise. Execute him and give him a second trial. Everybody wins.
39 posted on 07/05/2011 9:15:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: moonshinner_09

Let’s say that he is not being executed but aborted.
Satisfy the bleeding hearts...


40 posted on 07/05/2011 9:16:18 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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The scale of the Mexican invasion—millions have scoffed at our laws and violated our borders—and the fact that tens of thousands of the invaders have committed serious crimes here, makes their rights to “consular access” a sick joke. The corrupt Mexican government doesn't have enough consulates to keep up with the Mexican criminals who do murder and mayhem from sea to shining sea. Access for Turks, Norwegians, or Serbs is one thing, but the sheer scale of the Mexican criminality is unique.
The whole consular access thing is overblown in any case. Consuls can notify a criminal's family when they are locked up. And they may be able to provide a list of Spanish speaking lawyers. But they certainly won't pay for a lawyer. This, by the way, is the limits of what US Consuls do when Americans are locked up abroad—notify your folks, provide a list of English speaking local lawyers and wish you luck.
41 posted on 07/05/2011 9:19:13 PM PDT by Godwin1 (godwin 1)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
The only thing I don’t like about Texas is The Dallas Cowboys”. (Flame suit on). Fry him, not me.

You'll get no argument from this Texan. I hate the Cowboys. :-)

42 posted on 07/05/2011 9:19:53 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Sadly, I have to laugh at you saying this can be turned into an anti Obama campaign ad.

Oh it can be, should be, but democrats hand over their own heads on a platter every day - and the republicans hand it right back and never take advantage.

I despise the republicans for allowing out and out wacko leftism into our mainstream, without ever fighting it straight on.


43 posted on 07/05/2011 9:20:41 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: RobertClark

They’re no longer cooked in TX. They’re given an IV injection.


44 posted on 07/05/2011 9:22:26 PM PDT by matthew fuller (If we don't need a budget, we don't need a debt limit increase either.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse; bwc2221

Add my family to your list of non-Dallas fans. We’ll keep most of the rest of Texas for now.


45 posted on 07/05/2011 9:26:09 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Williams

Right on the money my friend. The Dems HAND them their heads SO MANY TIMES and they NEVER take advantage of it . The GOP is VERY lame


46 posted on 07/05/2011 9:26:09 PM PDT by sonic109 (OBAMA IS A TROJAN HORSE)
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To: Billthedrill

How about execute him and send him to Mexico for burial since they want him back.


47 posted on 07/05/2011 9:29:37 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

It seems reasonable to me. Maybe a nice bow and a card with the corpse.


48 posted on 07/05/2011 9:33:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Secret Agent Man
Hispanics in the US - if they do not say they want to have mexican officials meet with them before questioning for crimes, and say they are mexican citizens, we ought to assume that this means they are US citizens. That is exactly what Texas assumed. It is not an unreasonable assumption.

As all of that pertains to 0bowMao; he says AZ can't ask for proof of citizenship but TX must ask for proof of citizenship. He threatens AZ with the DoJ for asking and threatens TX with the UN and some international treaty for not asking.

Really proves what an anti-American punk he is.

49 posted on 07/05/2011 9:39:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Billthedrill

Televise it in spanish to all our mexican friends here illegally , just as entertainment you know .


50 posted on 07/05/2011 9:40:13 PM PDT by sonic109 (OBAMA IS A TROJAN HORSE)
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