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Birther Card: Coulter's Turn
The American Thinker ^ | July 6, 2011 | Cindy Simpson

Posted on 07/06/2011 7:29:22 AM PDT by wintertime

The Birther Card game continues, with Obama's long-form birth certificate on top of the pot and "Made in the USA" coffee mugs around the table.

Watching the match unfold leads me to agree with Donald Trump: lots of smart people are birthers, and they don't like the way the game has been played. I suspect most Americans do not appreciate the fact that the issue has been played as a game at all -- both by the mainstream media and the President himself.

If polled the usual question: "Do you believe Obama was born in Hawaii?" -- Obama's behavior would provoke me (even though I do believe he was) to answer, "Beats me!" (I plan on wearing my Obama "Made in the USA" t-shirt so they won't ask.) Regardless, even a "Yes" response, if not followed with denouncements of all doubters, may still earn a Republican the label of racist birther.

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KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; coulter; eligibility; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
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"CRANKS!" is the word Ann Coulter used to dismiss those with questions concerning Obama's eligibility. Then she used the KKK to further push her point.

Not one more dime from me for Ann Coulter.

1 posted on 07/06/2011 7:29:22 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Ann wants to be accepted by the chattering class.


2 posted on 07/06/2011 7:31:48 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: wintertime

The evidence that Obama’s LFBC is fradulant is over- whelming. Check out the experts at BIRTHER REPORT. They actually have computer experts used by the CIA who say it’s not even a good forgery.

Yet Fox, Coulter, Hannity, Rush...none will touch it. It’s a lie we are all gonna agree to for the sake of the country...strange reasoning. Like Kennedy’s murder...”nothing to see here, move on”.

Lost lots of respect for conservative media on this one.


3 posted on 07/06/2011 7:36:05 AM PDT by kjo
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To: wintertime

Oh, I get it -

since the leftists are going to call us names for pursuing this issue, we should drop it.


4 posted on 07/06/2011 7:37:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: wintertime

I’ll give her a pass on this one. There are a hundred reasons to be opposed to Urkel’s Presidency. We disagree on one. That leaves 99 other reasons to stick together. Put away the tar and feathers.


5 posted on 07/06/2011 7:46:09 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: MrB

Mostly we love you Ann but you are dead wrong on this one. Dead wrong!


6 posted on 07/06/2011 7:47:32 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Texas Eagle

I think that “Demonic” is an excellent book. I don’t love Ann 100% of the time, but she is good to have on our side.


7 posted on 07/06/2011 7:48:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: wintertime
I wonder why WSJ, FOXNews, National Review, Weekly Standard, Andrew Breitbart, et al haven't dug up proof that this is a fake?

Seems like it would be the biggest scoop of all time.

Maybe they don't want the fame or they're all tools for the Obama administration.

8 posted on 07/06/2011 7:48:41 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: kjo
Coulter, Hannity, Rush

I don't listen to Hannity, but Rush certainly does not demean "birthers." He just mostly ignores the stories that center upon the fraudulent nature of myths concerning Obama's pre-Chicago days. The only mentions of any of this that I recall from Rush are sarcastic references to Kenya, and the like.

Ann Coulter, on the other hand, pretends she is informed about Obama's origins and has come to the same conclusions as anyone who wants to continue working for CNN.

ML/NJ

9 posted on 07/06/2011 7:48:46 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Texas Eagle

By far and away the biggest reason to oppose “Urkel” as you refer to the usurper-in-chief is his blatant violation of the constitution of the US (which he swore to uphold I might add!). All else is irrelevant and meaningless in comparison. The media, pundits, and congress has trampled on the constitution for expediency and political correctness!


10 posted on 07/06/2011 7:49:17 AM PDT by Froggie (uires)
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To: Texas Eagle

Fine give her a pass, but she shouldnt be calling those who just want the truth and a transparent government names....


11 posted on 07/06/2011 7:49:31 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Froggie

The media, pundits, and congress has trampled .....That should read....have trampled (sorry Sister Elizabeth - wherever you are)


12 posted on 07/06/2011 7:51:24 AM PDT by Froggie (uires)
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To: wintertime

Ann Coulter playing the race card. Amazing.


13 posted on 07/06/2011 7:53:00 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think that “Demonic” is an excellent book. I don’t love Ann 100% of the time, but she is good to have on our side.

Amen, bro. I bought her book and bought 2 more for two Christian friends of mine who kind of have their head in the sand when it comes to politics. Other than some of the crass language she uses, they love the book.

14 posted on 07/06/2011 7:53:26 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rolling_stone
Fine give her a pass, but she shouldnt be calling those who just want the truth and a transparent government names....

C'mon, man. You gotta grow some thicker skin.

15 posted on 07/06/2011 7:55:09 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: wintertime
Instead of buying one copy of "Demonic", now I'll buy two to make up for the one you won't buy.


16 posted on 07/06/2011 7:57:40 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Owl_Eagle
I wonder why WSJ, FOXNews, National Review, Weekly Standard, Andrew Breitbart, et al haven't dug up proof that this is a fake? Seems like it would be the biggest scoop of all time. Maybe they don't want the fame or they're all tools for the Obama administration.

Yeah. Especially that Andrew Breitbart. THAT guy is definitely a tool of The Urkel Administration. I ain't never seen someone carry the water for Urkel like that Breitbart guy. Talk about someone who is in the tank for Libturds.

17 posted on 07/06/2011 7:58:05 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: wintertime
I used to buy every book that Ann ever wrote. When she took the time to bash the “birthers” I knew I was done with her. I don't even read her weekly columns anymore.

And she is suppose to be a Constitutional Lawyer, that cracks me up!

18 posted on 07/06/2011 8:01:24 AM PDT by Debi911
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To: Texas Eagle

“Do you believe Obama was born in Hawaii?” is the wrong question to ask; the question should be “Has Obama sufficiently proven that he is constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States?”


19 posted on 07/06/2011 8:02:43 AM PDT by hawgwalker
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To: Texas Eagle; Owl_Eagle

I wonder why WSJ, FOXNews, National Review, Weekly Standard, Andrew Breitbart, et al haven’t dug up proof that gravity is actually caused by a large colony of aliens living in the Earth’s mantle? Seems like it would be the biggest scoop of all time. Maybe they don’t want the fame or they’re all tools for the Illuminati.


20 posted on 07/06/2011 8:05:49 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Froggie
By far and away the biggest reason to oppose “Urkel” as you refer to the usurper-in-chief is his blatant violation of the constitution of the US (which he swore to uphold I might add!).

Be more specific. Are you referring to his cabal of non-elected Czars? The implementation of his agenda through bureacratic fiat? His overtaking of a private manufacturing organization? Oh, wait. You're talking about the Birth Certificate thing.

All else is irrelevant and meaningless in comparison. The media, pundits, and congress has trampled on the constitution for expediency and political correctness!

Now THERE'S something new under the sun.

Oh, except for the cabal of Czars, the taking over of GM, using The EPA to implement his Green Agenda. But I repeat myself. There are 100 reasons to oppose this guy and defeat him in 2012. If we can't even defeat him on his shredding of The Constitution he's undertaken since he took office, what good does it do to get our panties all bundled up over the Birth Certificate thing?

It just gives the aforementioned media, pundits, and Congress cover.

21 posted on 07/06/2011 8:07:09 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: wintertime

I have no use for Ann Coulter or any of the other folks who refuse to acknowledge that the rule of law matters.


22 posted on 07/06/2011 8:07:44 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Owl_Eagle

I wonder why WSJ, FOXNews, National Review, Weekly Standard, Andrew Breitbart, et al haven’t dug up proof that this is a fake?
Seems like it would be the biggest scoop of all time.
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Exactly! Why not?

I find it astonishing.


23 posted on 07/06/2011 8:07:48 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: sam_paine
Maybe they don’t want the fame or they’re all tools for the Illuminati.

Heh, heh. Amen. Again, especailly that Breitbart guy. He's got us all buffaloed. He just wants us to THINK he's one of us. I've been on to his little game from the get-go.

24 posted on 07/06/2011 8:09:33 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Debi911; wintertime
I used to buy every book that Ann ever wrote. When she took the time to bash the “birthers” I knew I was done with her. I don't even read her weekly columns anymore.

Wow. So you can appreciate books only from authors who agree with 100% of their views?

Must be pretty goddam boring reading.

Why bother? If you already have all the correct positions, no need of reading anyone, really.

25 posted on 07/06/2011 8:10:04 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: wintertime; Owl_Eagle
Seems like it would be the biggest scoop of all time.

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Exactly! Why not?

Occam's razor, probably.

26 posted on 07/06/2011 8:12:08 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: wintertime

She’s a dark sider.


27 posted on 07/06/2011 8:17:19 AM PDT by mcshot ("...of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: sam_paine
Occam's razor, probably.

Nah... I'm gonna stick with the rest of the birthers and belive in the widest spread conspiracy in the history of humanity. Plus, I've decided that even if Obama himself personally presented the B/C to me, I'd still find a higher level of proof in order to satisfy me. I'm just logical that way.

28 posted on 07/06/2011 8:20:43 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: wintertime
I am disappointed with Ann, that's for sure.

i predict that, if the Republicans put Marco Rubio or Bobby Jindal on a national ticket and it looks like the Republicans will win, the media will say that the candidate is not natural born. The Obama situation will be explained away by evidence that someone else - probably Frank Marshall Davis - was Obama’s biological father and claims that “this is a private matter” that should not be questioned. or some such nonsense.

I hope I am wrong. But such rhetorical gymnastics have been performed before. Ask 100 liberals if a person who committed felonies while in office should be allowed to remain President, and most if not all will say no. Then bring up Bill Clinton and watch them sputter and change their tune.

29 posted on 07/06/2011 8:21:04 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: butterdezillion

AMEN!


30 posted on 07/06/2011 8:21:21 AM PDT by mcshot ("...of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Maybe they don't want the fame or they're all tools for the Obama administration.

Not tools but afraid. Look how Obama goes after Fox news. And gets away with it. Despite the First Amendment. BEFORE he was elected he had teams of lawyers threatening people. And there was a story back then from an anonymous source that the source and his family had been threatened. By Obama thugs. Obama has powerful backers that are hidden. He didn't become President accidentally.

31 posted on 07/06/2011 8:22:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: wintertime

“I wonder why WSJ, FOXNews, National Review, Weekly Standard, Andrew Breitbart, et al haven’t dug up proof that this is a fake?”...

How do you know they haven’t? Why would they present it now?
The next election is still a year away.


32 posted on 07/06/2011 8:25:07 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: wintertime

It doesn’t matter IF he was born in HI...he listed his Father who was a British subject...therefore, Zero is not eligible to be in the WH...he is an illegal alien on top of that...an enemy agent...working to destroy America.


33 posted on 07/06/2011 8:26:24 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: Texas Eagle; rolling_stone
C'mon, man. You gotta grow some thicker skin.

It has nothing to do with thick skin and everything to do with "admiring" someone who insults one. I don't "admire" anyone who resorts to name calling. It's not necessary. "I disagree" is short and concise. "Cranks" is an alienator.

34 posted on 07/06/2011 8:26:56 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: wintertime; LucyT; Bikkuri; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; Fred Nerks; null and void; PhilDragoo; ...

Ping................


35 posted on 07/06/2011 8:28:50 AM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: Texas Eagle; sam_paine

Well as to Breitbart he’s a left coast conservative. Is he conservative? As much as he can be in his environment. However I disagree with his stand on homosexuals. He may do good things but he also backs some very destructive stands.


36 posted on 07/06/2011 8:30:48 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: sam_paine
Occam's razor, probably.
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Honestly, I am befuddled. Why would Fox ignore this? Obama posted **crude** forgeries.

So?...What is the Occam's Razor explanation? I don't see it.

37 posted on 07/06/2011 8:33:03 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: kjo

RE: not even a good forgery.

Have seen bit online about how BO’s certificate looks to many like an Adobe Acrobat mashup; can’t understand why he didn’t use the available time & spend enough money for a better cut-and-paste job.


38 posted on 07/06/2011 8:35:45 AM PDT by flowerplough (Bammy: It frustrates me when people talk about government jobs as if somehow those are worth less.)
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To: wintertime; y'all

Just an FYI to All.

To: UCFRoadWarrior

Trashing my conservative friends Levin, Coulter and Malkin on FR will earn you the coveted zot award.

zot

110 posted on Sat Apr 23 2011 16:00:59 GMT-0500 (CDT) by Jim Robinson


39 posted on 07/06/2011 8:40:37 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: sam_paine
Wow. So you can appreciate books only from authors who agree with 100% of their views? Must be pretty goddam boring reading.Why bother? If you already have all the correct positions, no need of reading anyone, really.
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This is like telling a woman with a broken nose, crushed sinuses, and fractured maxillary incisors, that...”Gee! Your husband doesn't beat you all the time. Does he have to be **perfect?!”

Well...Some things are deal killers. Coulter verbally punched Article 2, Section 1 of the ***CONSTITUTION*** in the nose. That's a deal killer.

40 posted on 07/06/2011 8:41:42 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: flowerplough

Theory I heard...is that the job had to be done by somebody very close to him...who would never talk...perhaps by someone who thought he knew more about computers than he did.

I still find it amazing that no one in the media will look into this. The level of corruption must be incredible.


41 posted on 07/06/2011 8:41:48 AM PDT by kjo
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Jim Robinson
Objecting to being called cranks is quite different than trashing someone.

And the newest BC was signed by U K L Lee. I don't enjoy being "played". Do you?

42 posted on 07/06/2011 8:42:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: kjo

We don’t have to check with the experts (though I agree—they’re debunked the document he released); we can check with his bff, Abercrombie. Recall that Hippo Mouth said he was going to get to the bottom of the LF BC, and lay the issue to rest once and for all. He investigated the files, and when asked what he’d found, he looked like he had seen a ghost. He gibbered about a “notation”, something, “written down” - and then refused to answer any more questions on the subject. Anyone watching that presser saw a rattled politician who couldn’t drop that hot potato fast enough.

Then the polls went south, showing a majority of ordinary, regular Americans doubted Obama was born in HI. All of a sudden, voila! A BC is released that bears no resemblance to a “notation” - and Which Was Not In The File when Abercrombie checked.

We don’t need the experts on this one. The plain, most basic facts speak for themselves.


43 posted on 07/06/2011 8:43:44 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Owl_Eagle

At least Fox (which also involves WSJ, since they are owned by the same people)and 3 other major media companies were told by Obama’s lawyers once before the election and at least once after the election that they would be annihilated by FCC and/or anti-monopoly harassment if they reported on the eligibility issue.

Some links:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour1Aug0709.mp3

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour2Aug0709.mp3

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour3Aug0709.mp3

You haven’t heard much about it because the threat the media heads passed on to the media personalities (something like “You or any of your guests discuss the eligibility issue, and your career is definitely over and your life, health, and family are in question”) was very quickly shown to be real.

As with other aspects of the “birther” issue, the part that troubles me is the amount of crime that has been committed, and the refusal of anybody in the media, law enforcement, government, and courts to do anything about it. Just like the other lawlessness we’ve seen out of this administration and its enablers, blatant crimes have been committed - and “conservatives” act like it doesn’t even matter.

The “conservatives” thought this was a side issue that makes no difference. I’ve been saying for a long time that if we accept the lawlessness that put Obama in office, we could expect to lose the rule of law altogether. And as we watch Obama operatives refuse subpoenas, refuse to enforce the law if Eric Holder’s “people” are the perpetrators, sue states to keep them from enforcing the borders and immigration law, refuse to defend DOMA, start combat operations in Libya without Congressional approval and batting the questions away as if the rule of law doesn’t even matter, take over the banks, take over General Motors, illegally fire inspectors general who noted the lawlessness and crimes being committed by Obama operatives, etc... tell me which understanding of the eligibility issue has been predictive of what we see today - the “conservative” pundits’, or mine.

As we see flash mobs and their violence increase drastically here in the US and as the lawlessness of the drug cartels spills over into our southern states, we should think long and hard about what it means if we say that the rule of law is a “distraction from more important things”.

Ann Coulter, as a Fox contributor, was told early on that if she reported on the eligibility issue her career would be over and her family could be killed. She knows this is about the rule of law; she has no excuse. She has chosen to be the mouthpiece for the very people who hold her hostage, as she mocks those who know this is more than a “game”. They all know it.

They are like hostages with a gun pointed at them, saying on camera not only that they are being treated well, but that there is actually no such thing as kidnappers and anybody who says otherwise is crazy. Every personality on Fox or the other media companies that were threatened. They all know and they are all marching in lock-step.

I kind of wondered about Sean Hannity, who for a while supported the things being said by Donald Trump - apparently with permission from Fox. Notice that shortly after that, George Soros (one of the active agents in the threats made to the media earlier) revealed through a Ben Smith interview with Media Matters CEO that Media Matters was seeking to annihilate Fox through regulators in Britain - the same threat as was made before, only this time very publicly right after Sean Hannity supported Trump.

I wondered why Fox allowed Hannity to do that, but now that Obama released the forged long-form and Trump has dropped the subject, and Hannity refuses to have Jerome Corsi on his show (Hannity/Fox claiming that the eligibility issue “isn’t in the news cycle any more” - IOW, they are dropping it, even as lots of forgery experts came out publicly to say that the posted BC is clearly a bad forgery).... I see why they allowed it. They set the stage for Obama’s grand forgery and then wouldn’t allow any analysis of it afterwards.

Fox played us like a fiddle. Or Fox’s master did.

I believe that Breitbart knows what has been done to the media and isn’t willing to fight the whole mafia machine that has the media in its grip. He’s chosen to fight other battles because he knows that if he tackles this he will have all the “conservative media” folks out for his blood (in order to save their own necks). There was a blow-up between Joseph Farah and Andrew Breitbart, and Breitbart’s point seemed to be that the eligibility issue is a losing battle even if Obama isn’t eligible. A reasonable response if Breitbart was aware that the “conservative” media is being held hostage.


44 posted on 07/06/2011 8:45:42 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: DJ MacWoW

I didn’t see you trash anyone. I saw others do so. It was just an FYI to proceed with caution.

(I believe there is another BC out there signed by that registrar. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’ve heard from some birthers.)


45 posted on 07/06/2011 8:46:17 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I didn’t see you trash anyone. I saw others do so. It was just an FYI to proceed with caution.

(I believe there is another BC out there signed by that registrar. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’ve heard from some birthers.)


46 posted on 07/06/2011 8:46:44 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: wintertime

Ann claims to NOT read the newspapers or blogs- I think this is getting to be a detriment to her

She says she does it so that she is not influenced by others in writing her books.

I believe she has therefore not seen much of the evidence of the forgery

At least I hope not.


47 posted on 07/06/2011 8:50:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Jim Robinson; BuckeyeTexan
Just an FYI to All. To: UCFRoadWarrior Trashing my conservative friends Levin, Coulter and Malkin on FR will earn you the coveted zot award.
zot
110 posted on Sat Apr 23 2011 16:00:59 GMT-0500 (CDT) by Jim Robinson
( the Above posted by Buckeye Texan in post #39.)
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Jim,

If this thread is anyway offensive please delete it. My participation on this forum is very important to me.

Hopefully, Buckeye Texan did not post what he did in an effort to intimidate me or other defenders of Article 2, Section1, or to shut down discussion on Obama’s crude forgeries, very questionable natural born status, or Ann Coulter’s uncharacteristic non-defense of the Constitution.

Very respectfully,

Wintertime

48 posted on 07/06/2011 8:51:07 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: BuckeyeTexan
(I believe there is another BC out there signed by that registrar. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’ve heard from some birthers.)

Wish you had more info on that. I'd like to know. As you know, the BC thing isn't a big deal to me as Bams father makes him ineligible. But I like having the info anyway.

And I still think people are being quiet because of threats. Butters post 44 explains that. I think Obama makes the Clinton machine look like playful children.

49 posted on 07/06/2011 8:52:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Fantasywriter

Yeah...also can’t help but believe they were saving Osama for such an occasion as a severe dip in The One’s polls...they wagged the dog.

Just strange that nobody, nobody, nobody will look into the LFBC since the sting on Osama. Hannity had Corsi scheduled for his tv program...Corsi says he was canceled the evening of his appearance. This is Hannity! Rush is on the sidelines; even Coulter is afraid to look at it!!! Corsi continues to post...put received little or no traction.

Can only conclude that decisions have been made...to take down Obama over this will cause more problems that it solves. Problem is...the Constitution has been damaged.


50 posted on 07/06/2011 8:53:16 AM PDT by kjo
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