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Issa, Grassley blast Holder in letter after secret meeting with ATF’s Ken Melson
The Daily Caller ^ | 7/6/11 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 07/06/2011 8:26:44 AM PDT by Nachum

Top Republican lawmakers have authored an explosive new letter containing details of secret testimony by acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson, which reveal for the first time the extent to which his agency was involved in an international gun selling scandal.

House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican, and Sen. Chuck Grassley, Iowa Republican, fired off the letter to Attorney General Eric Holder Tuesday detailing what Melson told Congressional investigators in a secret July 4 testimony.

One key takeaway from the meeting was that Melson acknowledged to investigators that agents had witnessed transfers of weapons from straw purchasers to third parties without following the guns afterwards. Straw purchasers are people who could technically legally buy guns in the U.S. but their intent was to turn around and sell them to drug cartels in Mexico.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; blast; fastandfurious; fbi; grassley; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; issa; melson

1 posted on 07/06/2011 8:26:54 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
The corruption is at historic levels.

Can't last much longer.

2 posted on 07/06/2011 8:27:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


3 posted on 07/06/2011 8:29:27 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What did Obama know, and when did he know it?


4 posted on 07/06/2011 8:29:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Nachum

Holder should be extradicted to Mexico to stand trial.


5 posted on 07/06/2011 8:33:07 AM PDT by Lexington Green (One of the great pleasures of smoking is knowing that it annoys busybodies.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The corruption is at historic levels. Can't last much longer.

Ordinarily it wouldn't last longer but we are controlled by a communists Administration. Even if he was asked to resign he would just get a seven figure job with one of the communists companies that was on the take. One thing for sure, no jail time as long as the communists control America.

6 posted on 07/06/2011 8:33:19 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh No! A letter. I bet they are terrified.


7 posted on 07/06/2011 8:33:39 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine
"Oh No! A letter. I bet they are terrified."

A mean-spirited letter perhaps?

8 posted on 07/06/2011 8:38:10 AM PDT by blam
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To: screaminsunshine

“Oh No! A letter. I bet they are terrified.”

But I’m sure it was a harshly worded letter! (Actually, from the article, it wasn’t even that.)


9 posted on 07/06/2011 8:38:48 AM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: blam

Let’s hope so. Maybe they even sent it certified mail. Wow! I wonder how they signed?? Sincerely or what?


10 posted on 07/06/2011 8:39:50 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Logical me

And, voting for candidate just because they have an (R) by their name next November will be about as useful as a screen door on a submarine to combat communism in America.


11 posted on 07/06/2011 8:41:17 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Nachum
Issa seems to be laying a solid foundation, and meticulously working his way up the food chain.

We could use an ill-tempered special prosecutor about now.

12 posted on 07/06/2011 8:43:14 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: MikeSteelBe

Like giving a guy with ten holes in his boat 1 cork?


13 posted on 07/06/2011 8:44:14 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like Melson is about to go off the Obama reservation in a big way. This is good news. ??? Any thoughts?


14 posted on 07/06/2011 8:45:49 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

‘We could use an ill-tempered special prosecutor about now.’

I’m not so sure about that. Cold, calculating and ruthless works for me too :)


15 posted on 07/06/2011 8:50:12 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I don’t really see this going anywhere. The law breakers and the law enforcers play for the same team. The media will run cover for them until the next Casey Anthony type sensation comes along (and it will) to enthrall the masses and this will all blow over. We’ve all seen it time and time again...why should this be any different? The only way we may hear of this again is if it serves the purposes of the evil left; say for instance a white man, in a white van, were to shoot a bunch of minorities or illegal aliens. Then the cries for bans would ensue and the origin of the gun would be lost in the chaos. That’s what they were actually hoping for.


16 posted on 07/06/2011 8:51:45 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: Nachum
I would not be quite so dismissive of this letter. If you read this letter carefully, it constitutes a very heavy shot across the bow for the Obama (mal)administration.

First and foremost, it strongly indicates that the Obama (mal)administration tried to pull a thug move by "silencing" acting director Melson rather than trying to "buy" him off. That is, they got really scared, panicked, and decided to try and muzzle him and, most likely, tar and feather him in public and then push him out.

That this was their tactic is implied by the repeated statements that no federal officer can be prevented from speaking to Congress, and the repeated "encouragement" to the DOJ to be forthright and to refrain from taking any retaliatory action against Melson.

Also, Melson appears to have been savvy enough - probably with some instigation by Issa - to end-run the effort to neuter and isolate him by secretly talking to Issa first without the DOJ's prior knowledge.

Second, the fact that the letter says repeatedly that Melson's testimony is corroborated by other info. Issa's committee has learned from other sources is an indirect way of saying that Melson has some really goodies that he's either given them, or that he's given them the clues needed to find on their own.

Third, the statements about how it "appears" that DOJ was stonewalling the committee, molding and editing the information provided to the committee, and intentionally preventing some personnel from coming forward is a serious warning that there will likely be referrals for criminal prosecution unless the DOJ starts cooperating fully.

This is a pretty serious letter, and is akin to a move in chess that shifts things from the opening game to the middle game. As Holmes would have said, the game's afoot.
17 posted on 07/06/2011 8:58:47 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: penelopesire

“Sounds like Melson is about to go off the Obama reservation in a big way. This is good news. ??? Any thoughts?”

I think this investigation has the potential to go very deep inside the administration. Melson was probably threatened by Holder. You know how these threats work- implicate, loss of income, dissapointment to your ... family. “What a beautiful wife you have Mr. Melson, how is she (and your kids) coping with all this....”

If he has the balls to go completely public and has the legal equivalent of Monica’s dress in his ‘closet’, things might get very interesting. A cornered animal can be even more dangerous. Obama has our forces in at least 5 conflicts right now: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, and Somalia (at last count). He will shake things up, rattle the cage, and try to distract to take our attention off this.

As they say, watch what they do, not what they say. :)


18 posted on 07/06/2011 8:58:53 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Corruption comes in all skin colors!


19 posted on 07/06/2011 8:59:05 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: penelopesire

Seems he got a glimpse of the corpses under the bus and is going into self-preservation mode.


20 posted on 07/06/2011 9:00:48 AM PDT by whatexit
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To: 762X51

“I don’t really see this going anywhere. “

Not yet. Not yet.

If there is enough smoke, the White House will be in a bit more danger here after the next election. IF the Republicans get a majority in both houses and they have real evidence of a coverup by the White House, we will see some very interesting things IMHO.


21 posted on 07/06/2011 9:02:30 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: MikeSteelBe
And, voting for candidate just because they have an (R) by their name next November will be about as useful as a screen door on a submarine to combat communism in America.

Only a short-signted fool would believe that a RINO President would be just as evil.

22 posted on 07/06/2011 9:05:32 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Oceander

Issa has been building a case. He has been slow and careful, blocking all the exits first, and then moving in...the exits are closed, the ducks are in a row, and the door is about to be kicked down..if this is done correctly, fubo will be impeached, and the charges so airtight that even the commies in the senate will have no choice but to convict(if they prize their careers more than the president)....grab a bud and a bowl of popcorn, it is about to begin


23 posted on 07/06/2011 9:14:40 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Oceander

That’s a good assessment. I suspect the pace at which this is developing is quite well throttled to become a significant campaign issue in the fall.


24 posted on 07/06/2011 9:21:30 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: joe fonebone

I agree that Issa has been very methodical, and very strategic, about this matter.


25 posted on 07/06/2011 9:22:09 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

GunWalker = Watergate X IranContra.

But the MSM is hitting the snooze button.

It’s not a Republican scandal, so they don’t care.


26 posted on 07/06/2011 9:28:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: Oceander

I agree. Well said. The game is indeed afoot.


27 posted on 07/06/2011 9:30:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: Nachum

Excellent points. I pray that Obama and his minions get caught red handed using the Chicago thug/nazi tactics that this administration is becoming famous for...not that the media has reported it mind you.


28 posted on 07/06/2011 9:33:05 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Travis McGee
Don't forget, the MSM played a large role in hounding Weiner out of office...it is theoretically possible for them to become interested in this scandal. After all, it's about guns.
29 posted on 07/06/2011 9:33:58 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

One hopes.


30 posted on 07/06/2011 9:38:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: penelopesire
Very good news. He knows the back story to this fiasco and where the incriminating documents are and how to look for them.

He can connect the dots between the gunrunning and gun control factions and tie in upper level people like Janet Napolitano and Holder.

Most important - he has documented how much obstruction of justice has occurred and who did it. When Issa flat comes out and states that there has been obstruction of justice it's a big thing and people now may wish to turning states evidence in return for immunity

The Obama Administration and Congressional Democrats have been arrogant and sloppy since 2009. They figured that they would control Congress for the next 20 years and would never have to face any investigations

31 posted on 07/06/2011 9:45:14 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Don't forget, the MSM played a large role in hounding Weiner out of office...it is theoretically possible for them to become interested in this scandal. After all, it's about guns.


But that was a sex scandal - sex on the front page sells more newspapers.

A sex anngle needs to be added...:^)

32 posted on 07/06/2011 9:54:36 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: Nachum
If Holder knew then his Boss knew...

Someone is gonna be burnt at the stake for this one.

And it ain't gonna be Barry Hussein.

My Prediction: "Mr. Holder is gonna be taking a trip soon, climb aboard the Obama Express Eric! Next stop... "Under the Bus"

33 posted on 07/06/2011 9:59:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: az_gila
But that was a sex scandal - sex on the front page sells more newspapers.
A sex angle needs to be added...:^)

According to the left, guns are inadequate penile compensators. Sooooo......

34 posted on 07/06/2011 10:16:02 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: penelopesire
Sounds like Melson is about to go off the Obama reservation in a big way. This is good news. ??? Any thoughts?

He has refused to fall on his sword for Holder and Obama. This story has legs.

The real question I think is, "Will Holder fall on his Sword for Obama?" I do not think he will. He has always impressed me as a gutless bully. That kind of man will turn on his master to survive.

35 posted on 07/06/2011 10:34:06 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Nachum
Another point Melson clarified for investigators was that the ATF group carrying out the mission of Operation Fast and Furious was placed under the direction of the Arizona U.S. Attorney’s office. The U.S. Attorney in Arizona, Dennis Burke, is a political appointee of the Obama administration. The direction to place this operation under the US attorney and not the BATF would have come from Holder.

Holder has a problem. The US Attorney reports to Holder. That US attorny did not dream up this game. Holder had to be in the loop and thus probably Obama.

36 posted on 07/06/2011 10:46:22 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Lexington Green

>Holder should be extradicted to Mexico to stand trial.<

Holder would never have authorized this without knowledge of the Secretary of state or the pResident.
It involved sending guns to narco terrorists in a foreign country.

I doubt that Hillary is going to fall on the sword for Obama.

Holder should go to mexico I agree, but he shouldn’t be going alone.


37 posted on 07/06/2011 12:08:58 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>What did Obama know, and when did he know it?<

considering it was his idea ......


38 posted on 07/06/2011 12:09:48 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: piytar

>“Oh No! A letter. I bet they are terrified.”

But I’m sure it was a harshly worded letter! (Actually, from the article, it wasn’t even that.)<

here s the letter.

http://oversight.house.gov/images/stories/Letters/2011-07-05%20ceg-dei%20to%20ag.pdf


39 posted on 07/06/2011 12:18:53 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: penelopesire

>Sounds like Melson is about to go off the Obama reservation in a big way. This is good news. ??? Any thoughts?<

he already did. This is BIG. Bigger than watergate or any gate we have ever seen in history.
Someone is going to jail and he is making sure it isn’t him.

Obama and Holder are toast. Maybe take Nipolotano along for the ride as well. Not to mention the FBI just got dragged into this by their short hairs.


40 posted on 07/06/2011 12:20:36 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

>If Holder knew then his Boss knew...

Someone is gonna be burnt at the stake for this one.

And it ain’t gonna be Barry Hussein.

My Prediction: “Mr. Holder is gonna be taking a trip soon, climb aboard the Obama Express Eric! Next stop... “Under the Bus”<

doubtful that anyone is going to stop at holder. This involved guns being illegally bought by the FBI then transfered to NARCO terrorists in a foreign country.

Someone who has the authority to effect treaties would have to given authorization. Hillary or Barry. I doubt that Hillary is going to slide under the wheels of the bus on this one for zero


41 posted on 07/06/2011 12:24:23 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: cpdiii

Interesting...Obama is a gutless bully as well...with borderline personality disorder,sociopathic tendencies and malignant narcissism to boot...should get very dramatic real soon.

GO ISSA GO!!


42 posted on 07/06/2011 2:36:11 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Munz

How are we going to get the media to cover this whole thing? They are just doing cursory and conniving mention of it so far because they are corrupted Obots.

Perhaps an impeachment will get their attention?


43 posted on 07/06/2011 2:40:05 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: rdcbn

Excellent points. I pray you are right about everything. I don’t think Obama and the democrats have just been ‘sloppy’ however.....they have been ‘in your face’ lawless for some time now. Prayers for the forces of good to expose them as the corrupt and evil demagogues that they are.


44 posted on 07/06/2011 2:44:59 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
45 posted on 07/06/2011 3:39:49 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: penelopesire

>How are we going to get the media to cover this whole thing? They are just doing cursory and conniving mention of it so far because they are corrupted Obots.

Perhaps an impeachment will get their attention?<

It will get their attention on it’s own. As much as they decry FOX news, they will not want FOX reporting it with exclusives all the time. Eventually they will realize that with or without their reporting of it, it will not go away. It is going to do massive damage when Issa is done.

You are looking at indictments on the head of Justice and FBI agents now.

No way that Fox will let it slide. As long as they don’t, the alphabets will pick it up. They will not back a losing proposition. And it is going good now, slow, methodical and everything is being done right. There will be no escape.


46 posted on 07/06/2011 6:55:28 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Nachum; All

I think that Melson believes that Obama & company plan on him to be the scape goat & he has decided to let somebody higher up the food chain be the goat .

All this right after it comes out in the press that the Mexican govt. wants to try those responsible in Mexican courts & send folks to Mexican prisons . I don’t believe this is a coincidence .


47 posted on 07/06/2011 11:40:59 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Erik Latranyi

No we don’t think a RINO POTUS would be as evil, merely unwilling to do anything to clean house. RINO’s are single-minded about preserving their prestige,perks,benefits of high elected office . They are not statesmen by any stretch of the imagination.


48 posted on 07/06/2011 11:51:34 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

49 posted on 07/08/2011 3:23:06 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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