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MSNBC's Religious Expert Excoriates 'Radical,' 'Theocratic' Christians Who 'Hate' America
News Busters ^ | July 6, 2011 | Scott Whitlock

Posted on 07/06/2011 3:27:55 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

In a segment on the religiosity of Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, MSNBC's Richard Lui on Wednesday looked to an author who has smeared conservative Christians as "radical," weird individuals who "hate" America.

The guest host for Martin Bashir interviewed Frank Schaeffer, a blogger on the liberal Huffington Post website and also a constant critic of the religious right. Schaeffer, the son of a conservative theologian, excoriated conservatives: "But, I came to understand that these people actually hate the United States as it is."

Lui never pointed out Schaeffer's liberal leanings or his endorsement of Barack Obama in 2008. The author and blogger warned of apocalyptic dangers, should Bachmann be elected president: "She comes from a wing of the evangelical movement where takes the Bible literally, and that includes the Old Testament that has passages about stoning gay people to death and all the rest of it."

Apparently, if the Republican Congresswoman wins the White House, she "would produce a theocracy in the country where the Bible would be paramount and no longer the Constitution or the Bill of Rights."

Lui didn't call Schaeffer on his apparent contradiction. Just a few minutes after the above quote, the writer suggested that when Christian Republican candidates come into office, "the only people they actually serve is Wall Street, and- and- and so really the social issues are a red herring..."

Schaeffer was appearing, partly, to promote his book, "Sex, Mom, and God: How the Bible's Strange Take on Sex Led to Crazy Politics--and How I Learned to Love Women (and Jesus) Anyway." (Lui awkwardly read the whole title.)

In July of 2010, Schaeffer, whose family helped promote the pro-life movement in the '70s, asserted that some of the "nuttiest" evangelicals support Israel.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianhaters; christians; conservatives; gopprimary; lunatics; religion
Frank Schaeffer can't decided if Republicans are beholden to Wall Street or their "evil" morals.

Lui didn't call Schaeffer on his apparent contradiction.

What a loony toon. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

1 posted on 07/06/2011 3:28:05 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yawn. A liberal accusing others of his own crimes. What’s new?


2 posted on 07/06/2011 3:29:47 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for good a blaster kid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The distorted projections of the liberal mind on display for all the world to see. Take a look in the mirror Mr. Schaeffer.


3 posted on 07/06/2011 3:33:44 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Too bad, his father was a theological giant. I don’t know how his son could go so radically wrong.


4 posted on 07/06/2011 3:36:31 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Franky’s making the rounds. Lord have mercy


5 posted on 07/06/2011 3:37:48 PM PDT by don-o (Please say a prayer for FReeper Just Lori. RIP)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"But, I came to understand that these people actually hate the United States as it is."

At last, something liberals and conservatives have in common!

What this all comes down to is definition. What is the USA, or what should it be?

Liberals and conservatives have very different opinions on this subject. FWIW, our Civil War was fought over a definitional issue of this type. What was the USA going to be?

6 posted on 07/06/2011 3:39:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is Frank Schaeffer related to the great Evangelical pastor Francis Schaeffer?

If so, there’s been a serious leak in the gene pool.


7 posted on 07/06/2011 3:40:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
MSNBC's Religious Expert

Am I the only who detected a lie in the first three words?

8 posted on 07/06/2011 3:43:53 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: livius

Yes. Father and son. Something has gone very, very bad for him. There is writing out there about his former friends who have been very much hurt by the new and bitter Franky.

He’s spewing Michael Moore class venom.

Lord have mercy.


9 posted on 07/06/2011 3:46:10 PM PDT by don-o (Please say a prayer for FReeper Just Lori. RIP)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Apparently, if the Republican Congresswoman wins the White House, she “would produce a theocracy in the country where the Bible would be paramount and no longer the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.”

This guy is illiterate. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were based on Biblical law. What law is he living under, oh that’s right socialists think that the state grants you your rights. Mine come from God and can not be taken away by Twits like you.


10 posted on 07/06/2011 3:46:48 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (Game On)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s an expert in the same way that Meghan McCain, Jeanine Garofolo and other woodenheads are experts.


11 posted on 07/06/2011 3:47:07 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

wanna talk about an apple falling far far far from the tree.


12 posted on 07/06/2011 3:51:44 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bill Maher, John Stewart, Seth McFarlane....all rich and famous atheists. There was a time when being an atheist would have cost them their careers. Now it enhances their careers. Why? Because they bash Christians.


13 posted on 07/06/2011 3:52:27 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Frank Schaeffer is the Ronnie-Ron Reagan of the evangelical world.


14 posted on 07/06/2011 4:01:41 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

I hear that talent normally skips a generation.


15 posted on 07/06/2011 4:02:46 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Was Francis Schaeffer his father? That explains it. Just a rebelling youth who never grew out of it.


16 posted on 07/06/2011 4:27:05 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A while back, I purchased for a nominal price, a small plastic container used for the purpose of Holy Water, obtained at a beautiful Catholic church and parochial school favored by those on pilgrimage.

The thought crossed my mind that so many on the left, and those involved with bizarre cultural cesspools like the adoration of vampirism and morbidity, are so fixated on their hatred and fear of religion, that they might eventually become, at least psychologically, like their demonic fetishes.

That is, so terrified of religious symbols and pious motives that even in the presence of a Bible, or a cross, or Holy Water, that they might react with fear and trepidation, in their minds questioning whether they might really dissolve or something.

To test this premise on the gullible, I even produced this small container of Holy Water in front of a group of black clad youths, and while they expressed disinterest for the most part, I noticed a couple of them discreetly moving to the back of the group, less in range. And they kept this relative position as I moved around the group.

This makes me wonder that if someday, when some bitterly anti-religious atheist is on a real tear, if someone was to splash him with Holy Water, that he might run around in an abject panic, while thinking, and screaming, that he is melting.

Hopefully on national TV.


17 posted on 07/06/2011 4:38:18 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They don’t have anything to worry about Perry.

He panders to Christians AND Muslims. But mostly Muslims.

After all, He has not signed and “agreement” with Christians, nor has he sent a dedicated brick to help them build a church, nor has he used state funds to fly into meetings with major Christians....Nope, All that he has reserved for MUSLIMS.

http://www.theismaili.org/?ID=900

Describing the importance of the agreement, Governor Perry explained that “traditional Western education speaks little of the influence of Muslim scientists, scholars, throughout history, and for that matter the cultural treasures that stand today in testament to their wisdom.”

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/04/11//0411agaperry.html


18 posted on 07/06/2011 4:39:13 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: don-o
I wish he had the Gift of Zechariah: rendered speechless when he didn't have anything to say.

Now that's something to pray for.

19 posted on 07/06/2011 4:39:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be" said the Cat,"or you wouldn't have come here.")
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To: BereanBrain

What cultural treasures, Rick?

Is it the practice of beheading? or “honor’ killings? Or treating women like chattel?

If Christians practiced these barbaric acts, would Perry laud praise on them?

Perry. RINO.


20 posted on 07/06/2011 4:43:01 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

And yet it was Franky Schaeffer’s book (that’s how he called himself then), I think “A time for anger, The Myth of Neutrality” that swayed my position to the Pro-life camp forever in the mid-80s. I read a few of his books back then so I’m not sure exactly which it was.


21 posted on 07/06/2011 4:49:44 PM PDT by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: tenger

I have seem this line in many westerns (paraphrased)

I’ve seen good men do bad things, and bad men do good things....


22 posted on 07/06/2011 5:00:36 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: livius
His son.

Don't know the full story. There has been speculation online that he got ticked off that Dad never paid enough attention to him.

Apparently it's been going on quite some time. Too bad he didn't learn to FReep when he was younger.

Oh well, maybe Ann Coulter will start dating him. She apparently loves romantic attachments to libs.

Cheers!

23 posted on 07/06/2011 5:25:46 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
You...you SCOUNDREL!

You just caused me to violate the 10th Commandment -- I am bitterly jealous I didn't think of that first.

Cheers!

24 posted on 07/06/2011 5:33:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is this “Franky” Schaeffer, the son of Francis Schaeffer, the fonder of the L’Abri Fellowship in Switzerland?!? I think he was the director of the excellent video series “How Then Shall We Live” that Francis Schaeffer wrote and lectured in. If so, my how far this guy has fallen away from the sound teaching of his father.


25 posted on 07/06/2011 5:34:22 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: grey_whiskers

Very sad. His dad was great.


26 posted on 07/06/2011 5:34:22 PM PDT by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Folks like this dude go way overboard in their condemnations. How can you take them seriously?


27 posted on 07/06/2011 6:02:18 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: grey_whiskers

She found that libs are easier to get in bed than conservatives.


28 posted on 07/06/2011 6:09:33 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“But, I came to understand that these people actually hate the United States as it is.”

I think he is right. Compared to America from 50 years ago there is little to love today. In fact there is much to hate about current culture and attitudes.


29 posted on 07/06/2011 6:19:01 PM PDT by Hacklehead (The Tree of Liberty is very thirsty.)
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To: W. W. SMITH
She found that libs are easier to get in bed than conservatives.

Are you kidding? She *does* speak of being a Christian, and yet has dated libs. I hope she retained her virtue.

Cheers!

30 posted on 07/06/2011 6:20:25 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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