Skip to comments.OBAMA LOSING JEWISH VOTERS
Posted on 07/06/2011 3:41:04 PM PDT by Hojczyk
If the election were held today, President Obama would get only 56 percent of the Jewish vote against a generic Republican candidate, down from the 78 percent he won in 2008 and less than the 74 percent John Kerry received in 2004.
This is the key finding of a survey of 1,000 Jewish voters I conducted from June 20-27 using telephone and Internet interviews. After asking basic questions of the entire sample, I proceeded to drill down with more detailed questions for the Jews in the sample who identified themselves as Democrats. The overall survey has a 95 percent confidence of a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.
Triggering the increasing Jewish disaffection with Obama is opposition to his proposal that an Israeli return to 67 borders be the starting point of peace negotiations. By 10-83, Jewish voters opposed the plan. Jewish Democrats opposed it by 10-67. Asked if President Obama is too biased against Israel, Jewish voters as a whole agreed with the charge by 39-30, while 32 percent of Jewish Democrats also agreed (and 40 percent of Jewish Democrats disagreed).
Jews who identified themselves as Democrats also said:
By 37-47, they do not think Obama is doing a good job of promoting peace in the Middle East.
By 43-42, they break evenly on whether Obama is being too tough on Israel.
By 61-30, Jewish Democrats think the president is naïve in thinking that he can make peace with the Arabs.
The survey probed the issue of 1967 borders in greater depth, reading Jewish Democrats a statement giving both sides of the issue:
RELATED ARTICLES Gallup poll: No erosion in support among Jewish voters President Obama says that Israel should give up the land it occupied after the 1967 war except for some adjustments. He says that these borders would give the Palestinians a viable nation of their own and would lead to a settlement of their conflict with Israel. Others disagree, saying that these borders are too small, exposing Israel to shelling from the Golan Heights in the north and giving the nation a middle only nine miles wide. They say that returning to the pre-67 borders would not stop the Arabs from wanting to destroy Israel but would make it easier to do so. Which view comes closest to your own?
In response, Jewish Democrats opposed returning to the 67 borders by 82-8.
Israel is very important to Jewish Democrats.
By 86-4, Jewish Democrats agree that it is very important that Jews have a country of their own, considering their history of persecution.
They disagree, by 9-75, with the idea that Israel has become a bully, pushing its Arab neighbors around.
Jewish Democrats agree, by a margin of 85-4, that Israel is a small country surrounded by countries and peoples that want to destroy it.
By an overwhelming 12-71, they reject the idea that Israel is intolerant of its neighbors and does not do enough to get along with them in peace.
By 79-4, Jewish Democrats agree that Israel wants to live in peace with its neighbors but the Arabs wont let it and reject, by 11-73, the statement that Israel is always trying to grab more land and throw out the Palestinians who live there.
Finally, Jewish Democrats agree, 67-13, with the overview that if the Arabs lay down their weapons, there would be no more war. It is just their desire to destroy Israel that creates the conflict.
Given the importance of Israel to the Jewish Democratic voters of the United States, it is clear that Obama is playing with fire as he toughens the American foreign policy toward Israel and banks his credibility on the idea that peace is possible simply through Israeli territorial concessions. American Jews Democrats included reject the very foundation of Obamas efforts to achieve peace in the Middle East as naïve.
Obama is in the process of breaking the close relationship between his party and the Jewish community, a liaison first formed by Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt in the 1930s. In increasing numbers, American Jews and Jewish Democrats are leaving the presidents side.
So he’ll get 55-60% instead of 75-80%. It’s a start, but most of my co-religionists are blind naive fools listening to the conventional wisdom of the oikophobic urbane elite.
This contradicts another poll which says that Obama’s support from Jewish voters is holding firm. I’m more inclined to believe this poll.
There’s still plenty of time for meaningless promises to bring them back to the party. They’ll come around; for some reason, this voting block is a slam dunk.
Giving the lie to the bogus gallup crap.
Poor polling, worse analysis.
I will believe it when I see it in declining donations and actual voting patterns.
Until then, polling is just wishful thinking.
They’ll be back when it counts. They are elitist liberals first and Jews when it’s fashionable. And, Obama will just ship them some borrowed bailout money of that don’t work.
I really hope this is true, BUT I won’t buy it until the 2012 election pans out this way.
Personally I doubt it, but we will see.
It's not naivete -- the Obama Brotherhood has a plan, and it ain't pretty for either Israel or the U.S.
A Jewish conservative friend (who served in Republican administrations) advised that the loss of Jewish votes won’t affect much, but the loss of Jewish campaign donations will.
If he destroys Israel, Islamic donations may make up for it.
This doesn’t jive with a Gallup poll published last week. Has Dick Morris ever been wrong? Has Dick Morris ever been right about anything?
I doubt that Obama will be suffering much loss from Jewish voters, this poll will change when an election starts and the contrast between the pro-life, pro-bill of rights, smaller government republican agenda and the Obama agenda are campaigned on and contrasted with hundreds of millions of dollars worth of ads, articles and speeches.
Its the donors that matter,not that segment of the general population that has Jewish last names.
I can not imagine how he holds all the big money Jewish donors he had last time. Not a reasonable expectation.
No offense, but there’s some Jewish Democrats (B. Streisand for one) who’d vote Adolf Hitler for President so long as he was a Democrat. I have no idea what it is with so many Jews that they’ll vote left even when history clearly shows it’s not in their interests.
The issue that concerns the Obama people is a potential loss of political donations. There will not be a big difference in political donations from wealthy Jews in CA and NY. (Maybe a little less generosity).
The real concern is the middle and upper middle class who feel that donating $100 is a mitzvah, especially if it is to a (half) black man.
His conclusion is an infinite leap and is gratuitous.
The Hill did a totally bogus analysis of Gallup’s polls the other day regarding Obama’s Jewish support. If you read that article, silently sing to yourself, Spin, Spin, Spin sung to the tune of the Byrds Turn, Turn, Turn, because if you bother to go to the Gallup web page regarding this issue and take a look at the Gallup polls since 2009, it will be noted that Obamas Jewish approval has dropped precipitously from 83% in 2009 to 60% today.
Worse, Jewish approval of Obama is still rapidly sliding downhill, falling from 68% to 60% in the last five months. These trends are hardly cause for the Obammunists to celebrate and totally contradict the Orwellian headlines being used, such as No erosion in support for Obama among Jewish American Voters and Poll: Majority of Jewish Americans still solidly support President Obama.
So, I say to all of those Obammunists who blindly pretend that all is well with Jewish support of Obama, please keep thinking that as you whistle in the dark while sauntering by the graveyard of disappearing Obama supporters, because that way you’ll continue to think that all is in order in Obamaland, when in fact it’s all hollowed out like a house eaten up by termites: it looks like the house is ok, but the merest puff of breeze will cause it to disintegrate into a pile of dry rot that blows away in the wind.
>>If the election were held today, President Obama would get only 56 percent of the Jewish vote<<
How sad that 56% of Jews hate themselves and/or their race. barry the zero is trying to complete hitler’s plan through the back door and yet, they still support him.
How can American Jewish voters be so intelligent yet so dumb? How Obama could get even one American Jewish vote is beyond me. Do these people have a death wish?
Just yesterday... Gallup says he is not losing any Jewish support at all and backed it up with older polls and their newest poll... he is at the same levels he enjoyed during the election. Who to believe?
“I saw a posting here where Obama was not losing Jewish voters”
I saw it too...who knows. Everyone has to have a breaking point, and just maybe Obama will find the Jewish breaking point.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
...defecting from the likes of Pelosi, are they? Good!
Why any true patriotic Jew would ever vote for a democrat is beyond me in the first place.
Did he forget where he put them ??
Yeah, they gotta make up their minds ... this morning the Jews were all voting for him, tonight they’re not ... what a fickled bunch.
Many in Germany supported hitler until...
So if you’re a “Jewish voter” and you vote for the destruction of Israel, are you a Jew? I mean, you can be born into a Jewish family and have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Judaism in any form, declare yourself an anarcho-communist atheist, support the palestinians, and you’re a Jew. On the other hand, you can join Judaism, study and practice it’s teachings, learn Hebrew, live in Israel, support Israeli politics, yet, because you weren’t born into a Jewish family, you’re not a Jew.
So what’s “being a Jew” REALLY mean?
About freakin time.
By some estimates, Democrats get 60% of their funding from Jewish donors.
Gee, I’d sure like to see that hose of cash directed at Republicans who support Israel!
From this Jewish perspective, Franklin D. Roosevelt was anti-semitic in many respects, yet Jews at the time perversely idolized the man, passing down myths about him to succeeding generations. Present-day Jews often retain an irrational addiction (aren't all addictions irrational?) to the Democrats as a consequence. The "close relationship" to which Morris refers between the 'Rats and the Jewish community is in large measure founded on this pro-Roosevelt mythology.
Now, Dick Morris, please tell us what Eleanor Roosevelt did or did not do that merited Jews kissing up to the Dems. She never held any public office, as far as I know.
Morris' estimate of 56% of American Jews voting for Obama is very much in line with my postings here on FR.
Though Jewish Democrats may answer Morris' questions about Israel in a way to convey concern about Israel and Obama's policies re the Israel-Palestinian conflict, my guess is that in the majority of these instances, Israel will not be foremost on their minds when they vote for President next year.
Bull/ Other devout leftists are mad at Hussein too. But on election day, they will vote for him anyway. Remember, American Jews are liberals FIRST, Jews only when necessary, convenient or profitable.
Bullfeathers. Frankly stop even worrying about the subject.
The same 79% marxist wannabe hard-core are going to vote for, and spend their money supporting dems by the same overwhelming 79% margin every single time. No. Matter. What. No matter how anti-Israel Omama it, because they’re for the most part committed SOCIALISTS. Simple as that.
Frankly. They want to be mindless zombie supporters, let them.
Ignore them. Tantrums, plays for attention (which this story seems to be) whatever. Don’t even try. They made their bed, leave ‘em there. Lots of more productive things to do.
Waste of everyone’s time to do otherwise. IMO.
Today: Adolf Hitler shows up and announces his candidacy for President. Republican Jews (and also Christians) protest Hitler’s candidacy. Even ADL’s Abraham Foxman exhibits some concerns about this.
Tomorrow: Hitler changes his party registration from National Socialist German Worker’s Party to Democrat.
Day after tomorrow: National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) instantly makes a blog entry, “Stop the Smears!” with regard to RJC condemnation of Hitler. NJDC proclaims Hitler a victim of Evangelical Christian conservatism and promises to support his candidacy.
If this sounds far-fetched, NJDC has already whitewashed MoveOn.org’s anti-Semitic hate speech and has no problem with the prominent racist and anti-Semite Al Sharpton.
so much for that bullshit from Gallup. Gallup, IIRC, only polled “adults”, this was a poll of “voters”.
For me, one of the most special things about Israel is its commitment to doing what is necessary to keep Jews around the world safe from persecution. Even so, as an American I do not vote with Israel as my first priority because I live in the US. I dont think that has anything to do with party affiliation for me.
Last time I was in Israel, Bush was still president. I asked my Israeli family what they thought of him and they responded that they liked him for Israel, but he wasnt their president and what mattered was what I (and other Americans) thought of him. I think to a large extent this viewpoint works best both ways.
Im relatively sure Obama will receive less of the Jewish vote this time around because about half the Jews I know who voted for Obama in 2008 were on the fence then. I dont really foresee a large portion of the Jewish population staying home on Election Day, but I also think many who voted for Obama are reluctant to vote for a Social Conservative so it should be interesting.
On Wednesday the Obama campaign sent around a slightly panicky email about its quarterly fundraising numbers. Today, they have sent out another, slightly panickier, email about their quarterly fundraising numbers. The email is titled Midnight, just to make it a little bit scary.
If youre planning on donating to this campaign at any point in the next 16 months, you should do it now.
Tonight at midnight is not just your last chance to enter the Dinner with Barack and Joe contest, its also a hugely important fundraising deadline for this campaign the first time well report on our progress to the public and the press.
The next few hours are critical for us. Please donate $5 or more today:
Later in the email, Team O runs with a bit stronger language:
Come next fall, people might not remember this date or make the connection between the strength of our campaign then and the steps we took in these early months. But anyone worth their salt in politics knows tonight is one of the most important tests well face as a campaign this year. (emphasis added)
Really a quarterly fundraising number is one of the most important tests well face as a campaign this year? Only if your numbers have gone south and you expect that to generate a lot of static about your campaigns weakness. The Obama campaign could be playing a head game here, but I wasnt alone in taking yesterdays email as a sign of weak numbers. Well see soon enough; midnight tonight is the close of this quarter, so the campaigns numbers will be due for release shortly.
“...my guess is that in the majority of these instances, Israel will not be foremost on their minds when they vote for President next year”.
YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! Israel is NOT foremost in these Jews’ minds, if it were, they NEVER would have voted for Barry in the first place!
More Jews will vote GOP and not talk about it.
Jumping to conclusions. Dislike for Obama does not necessarily translate to dislike for Democrats. True believers always believe that their system will work if only the right person (Hillary?) was in charge. They will never admit that socialist theory itself is the problem.
Read the Gallup story in its entirely and look at the graphs. You'll see that Zero's approval rating with Jews - even with Gallup's flawed methodology - went from 83% at the time of the anointment to 60% in their last polls. I'd call that serious slippage. The headline was misleading, probably written by a 'Rat specifically to get out the phony message that all is well with Jews in Obamaland.
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