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Homeowner who shot burglar gets 5 years in prison
KING 5 News ^ | 7/6/11 | Drew Mikkelsen

Posted on 07/06/2011 8:25:21 PM PDT by Nachum

CHEHALIS, Wash. - An Onalaska man who shot and killed a man who he thought was going to rob him will spend more than five years in prison. Lewis County Judge Nelson Hunt sentenced Ronald Brady to the maximum possible sentence, 63 months. A jury found Brady guilty of manslaughter last month. "I think the jury missed this one," said Jack Tipping, a friend of Brady. "This is a great victory for burglars."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; burglar; homeowner; prison; shot; washington
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To: Nachum
"According to prosecutors, Brady never showed any remorse or regret for the shooting."

Remorse & regret should never play into the equation of guilty/not guilty. Had a fellow juror pull that stunt once. In that case, remorse by the defendant would have been admission of guilt.

21 posted on 07/06/2011 8:57:19 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: BobL

If someone breaks in your house in TX and is a threat, you can kill them and no court will convict you. There are lots of guns in TX, so criminals are taking their life in their hands if they break in someones house. There are lots of people with concealed weapons licenses in that State. A lot of people hunt too.


22 posted on 07/06/2011 8:57:56 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Nachum

I employ the “breaking glass” rule.

After hearing breaking glass, you can shoot any damn person you find in your house.

If you didn’t hear breaking glass, you’re probably best not to shoot.

A 3AM, wrong address, a$$h++e, loud mouth, drunk, late luggage delivery guy is fortunate I applied this rule when he drove his Pinto up our winding driveway to our rural home, and approached a ground level bedroom far from any entrance.


23 posted on 07/06/2011 8:58:40 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: Grey Eagle

“If someone breaks in your house in TX and is a threat, you can kill them and no court will convict you. There are lots of guns in TX, so criminals are taking their life in their hands if they break in someones house. There are lots of people with concealed weapons licenses in that State. A lot of people hunt too.”

That’s for sure. And that is why, with the very rare exceptions of home invasions, almost all break-ins are during the day here in Texas. At night, criminals know that they’re target practice. That’s not necessary the case in big cities, and is TOTALLY OPPOSITE of Europe (i.e., Great Britain), where criminals know they are a protected class and can get a lot more loot if they’re able to ask the homeowner where to look.


24 posted on 07/06/2011 9:05:48 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Nachum
My dad had a farm in Onalaska WA, the smallest town you ever saw.

I'm astounded by this verdict is this part of the country. People have been shot in those parts for looking at others wrong.

25 posted on 07/06/2011 9:10:20 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Your driveway is not your home.

The castle law would only apply in your driveway if the BG was obviously and in immediate danger of doing serious bodily harm that might lead to death.

That is the no requirement to retreat part of the law.

Shooting a person for walking in your direction in your driveway is not protected under the castle doctrine.


26 posted on 07/06/2011 9:10:52 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Raven6

They were in the driveway, not in the process of breaking into the house.

According to the account posted, they had no weapons.

I think stupid met stupid.


27 posted on 07/06/2011 9:16:14 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Raven6
Good post my gunner friend. As an avid BOWLING PIN MATCH SHOOTER (my best time so far,,, 2.71 seconds) I believe I'd attempt to excersize some sort of surity outside my home but at night if someone tries to break in, well,,,, let me put it this way,,,, I always keep one of my "NON-COMPETITION"1911's on my night stand and in condition 3.

I think you'd tend to agree with me that I'd rather be TRIED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY 6.

28 posted on 07/06/2011 9:17:21 PM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: Grey Eagle

you may remember when Whitman was shooting from the Tower in Austin back August 1, 66 that scores of guys pulled rifles out of their cars or pick ups or went home to get them and came back. Thousands of rounds were fired by these guys back at Whitman. I was two blocks away on a construction site and heard and saw every one of them. The entire affair went on about an hour and one half and within less than 30 minutes the “good ole boys” were returning fire.

Officer Martinez finally shot and killed Whitman and was even backed up by a civilian they loaned a gun to in the final assault on Whitman up on the Tower.

Basically a burglar is committing suicide in Texas.........it is as simple as that.


29 posted on 07/06/2011 9:26:53 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: old curmudgeon

You said it perfectly.


30 posted on 07/06/2011 9:33:23 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Nachum

Hey, I own guns to protect me and mine, but you can’t just start shooting people walking up your driveway.

He’s lucky all he was convicted of was manslaughter.


31 posted on 07/06/2011 9:36:39 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: old curmudgeon

>> Brady is stupid and stupid has consquences.

The word is ‘ignorant’.


32 posted on 07/06/2011 9:39:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: old curmudgeon
Even in Nevada, where the case precedence was set by Judge Mills Lane, you have to wait for them to attempt to break into the home before you can start slinging lead.

Once somebody enters your house, even if he is naked, you can assume he poses a deadly threat and you are cleared red and free.

33 posted on 07/06/2011 9:40:08 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Nachum

That’s the way Washington state wants and DESERVES it.


34 posted on 07/06/2011 9:42:59 PM PDT by matthew fuller (If we don't need a budget, we don't need a debt limit increase either.)
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To: old curmudgeon

It was not clear to me that this couple was even out to steal from Brady. I don’t think the shooting was justified.


35 posted on 07/06/2011 9:44:49 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Obamania in 2012)
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To: Gene Eric

No. Stupid.

Because ignorance can be remedied with education and instruction.

Stupid is irreversible.

Most ignorant people have common sense which they apply, in most cases more effectively than highly educated idiots.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupid


36 posted on 07/06/2011 9:51:43 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

>> Stupid is irreversible.

Hence the phrase, “Stuck on stupid.”


37 posted on 07/06/2011 10:06:17 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Nachum

Hell, it says that he ambushed people walking up his drive way and they were unarmed. Damn what a fool, lucky it is only five years.


38 posted on 07/06/2011 10:33:09 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Nachum

I gather he can comfort himself with the expression, “better to be in court than in the morgue” or “better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6”.


39 posted on 07/06/2011 10:44:30 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kevmo

This is funny. You made me laugh. Thank you.


40 posted on 07/06/2011 11:12:46 PM PDT by Lily4Jesus ( Jesus is LORD)
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