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Father spoke of having Obama adopted
Boston Globe ^ | 7 July 2011 | Sally Jacobs

Posted on 07/07/2011 6:03:06 AM PDT by Fractal Trader

In the spring of 1961, President Obama’s father revealed a plan for his unborn son that might have changed the course of American political history.

The elder Barack H. Obama, a sophomore at the University of Hawaii, had come under scrutiny by federal immigration officials who were concerned that he had more than one wife. When he was questioned by the school’s foreign student adviser, the 24-year-old Obama insisted that he had divorced his wife in his native Kenya. Although his new wife, Ann Dunham, was five months pregnant with their child - who would be called Barack Obama II - Obama declared that they intended to put their child up for adoption.

“Subject got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ [Hawaiian for pregnant] and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away,’’ according to a memo describing the conversation with Obama written by Lyle H. Dahling, an administrator in the Honolulu office of what was then called the US Immigration and Naturalization Service.

Obama, the Subject, and his USC, or United States citizen, wife, obviously, did not put their baby up for adoption. Whether the young couple actually considered such a step, or the elder Obama made the story up in order to appease immigration officials who at the time were considering his request for an extension of his stay in the United States, is unclear. Family members on both sides of the marriage now say they never heard any mention of adoption.

But his statement provides a unique glimpse into the relationship between the president’s parents and the fragility of his connection to the father whom he would little know.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adopted; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; father; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaadopted; spoke; stanleyanndunham
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Of course, he was only requesting the adoption of Barack since Malcom X, not Obama, was the true father.
1 posted on 07/07/2011 6:03:07 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: LucyT; rxsid; melancholy; Seizethecarp

ping


2 posted on 07/07/2011 6:03:52 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Not significant news. The father was a low-life. We already knew that.


3 posted on 07/07/2011 6:07:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

What a revolting story.


4 posted on 07/07/2011 6:16:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Fractal Trader

Before this is all over, they will have him being born in a manger.................


5 posted on 07/07/2011 6:18:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The father was a low-life. We already knew that.

The old saying "Like Father, Like Son" certainly applies.

6 posted on 07/07/2011 6:29:51 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Fractal Trader

One wonders if the untold story being implied here is whether Obama’s parents were considering an abortion.

It’s sad, really. One would think that an individual who probably came close to the chopping block as a fetus would be sympathetic to other unborn lives in similar situations.

Socialism twists the mind in awful ways.


7 posted on 07/07/2011 6:32:13 AM PDT by MWS (De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum. - Thomas a Kempis)
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To: Red Badger
It will soon be revealed that Obama was brought forth from Mother Gaia to save the planet from evil capitalists bent on destroying her.

Of course nobody has yet revealed where the evil capitalists plan to live afterwards. ...

8 posted on 07/07/2011 6:33:30 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: SecondAmendment

I know more about a baby born in the middle east 2000 years ago than I do about this guy who’s younger than me..................


9 posted on 07/07/2011 6:36:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: Fractal Trader
The following year, Obama left his small family in Honolulu and headed to Harvard University to pursue a doctorate in economics.

Except that the "small family" was in Seattle, not Honolulu.

Interesting how the reporter of this piece refers to information that was blacked out in redaction on the copy of Obama Sr.'s immigration file that has been made public. In the public version, the talk of the Salvation Army does not appear.

This version actually supports my theory that Obama Sr wanted SAD to abort little Barry, just like it appears later happened with the high school girl Obama Sr. apparently got pregnant in Boston while at Harvard. I doubt he would have told the INS that he was encouraging SAD to kill the baby in the womb, so the story that he was encouraging her to get rid of the baby through adoption sounds a bit better.

So if Obama Sr. wanted her to get rid of the baby, and I would expect that her Marxist parents also probably had no problem with abortion or giving the baby away, did SAD run away somewhere in order to have and keep the baby in spite of the wishes of Obama Sr. and her parents?

Did she go to Seattle in order to find support among high school friends or other relatives for keeping the baby in defiance of husband and parents? If so, where did she have the baby - did she have it across the border in a Canadian hospital as an indigent or in a home for unwed mothers?

Or did the reckless and headstrong young SAD go all the way to Kenya to find Obama's family and try to enlist them on the side of convincing Obama Sr. to keep his first born son (as far as she knew) and not get rid of it?

If she went somewhere else to have the baby in defiance of her husband and parents, it would explain the apparent shenanigans with the long form birth certificate.

Under this theory, SAD's mother registered the birth in Hawaii by submitting an affidavit of home birth after learning that SAD had gone ahead somewhere else with having and keeping the baby. Years later, Obama II, concerned about showing the world such a fishy document, comes up with an apparent hospital-generated long form birth certificate to satisfy his constitutional eligibility.

10 posted on 07/07/2011 6:36:28 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Fractal Trader

Does anyone know if/where bullrushes occur in Hawaii?


11 posted on 07/07/2011 6:37:58 AM PDT by Mobties (Reduce the government footprint! Let the markets work!)
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To: Fractal Trader

And of course, the t*rd never falls far from the toilet.


12 posted on 07/07/2011 6:45:57 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Fractal Trader
"But his statement provides a unique glimpse into the relationship between the president’s parents..."

Nice story. Isn't this one way to create a sociopath?

13 posted on 07/07/2011 6:51:53 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Fractal Trader

Had he wore a condom, we’d have been spared a hell of a lot more.


14 posted on 07/07/2011 6:55:11 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: ClearCase_guy
Mother and father were BOTH whores.

ozero is the son of whoreS

15 posted on 07/07/2011 6:56:07 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Fractal Trader

Boston Globe? I’m shocked.


16 posted on 07/07/2011 7:03:59 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: CPT Clay

I searched further to find out the proper use of the suffix “II”. It
seems that this is used primarily when the child has the exact name of
another relative, but not his father, or when there are three family
members (father/son/grandson) with the same name:

“The designation of Sr. or Jr. to distinguish between father and son
with all the exact same names (first, middle, & last), can be replaced
by the Roman numerals, I and II, respectively, when the grandson has
the exact same names. The grandson will then have a III after his
name. The grandfather and father can continue to use Sr. and Jr.,
respectively, or the numerals.

“However, using the “II” (not Jr.) often means a man does not have his
father’s name, but another relative such as his grandfather or uncle.

“Of course, royalty or other ceremonial title, would always have the I
or II, rather than Sr. or Jr. to designate the line.”


17 posted on 07/07/2011 7:07:03 AM PDT by tanstaafl44 (Muslims cannot let Western Civilization kill itself in peace.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

That makes a lot of sense. In fact, it’s the most logical explanation I’ve read.


18 posted on 07/07/2011 7:13:30 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Fractal Trader
Generally, a decision to give up a baby for adoption is not spur of the moment reactions. A discussion begins months before the Obama was born.

When Obama was born, the parent aren't even living together. By the time the child is five, the parents are divorced and the mother has remarried.

Lolo Soetoro becomes Obama's stepfather. After an adoption, Lolo Soetoro becomes his father with a legal name change from Barack Hussein Obama to Barry Soetoro. The Original Long Form BC is sealed and archived. A Barry Soetoro COLB with a "date filed" backdated to Aug. 8, 1961 is created and filed with the DoH vital records.



In 1970, Barry Soetoro returns to the US alone. A month later his mother returns to the US without a valid US Passport after she informed the US State Department she intended to stay in Indonesia indefinitely.

Barack Hussein Obama Sr. returns to Hawaii to visit with his son. BHO Sr. complains his son was adopted without his consent. BHO Sr. is restored as the paternal parent and Barry Soetoro's name is changed back to Barack Hussein Obama II. The Court Orders the Hawaii DoH to create the Barack Hussein Obama II COLB.

The adoption annulment changed Obama's name and his paternal parent listed on his birth record, but it did not change his immunization record, school record or his citizenship. BHO II is still an Indonesian citizen living in America as a Permanent Resident Alien under the custody of a Refugee Resettlement Organization located in Connecticut.
19 posted on 07/07/2011 7:20:08 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: Meet the New Boss
....Obama II, concerned about showing the world such a fishy document, comes up with an apparent hospital-generated long form birth certificate to satisfy his constitutional eligibility.....

NBC= Place & ParentS

20 posted on 07/07/2011 7:22:50 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: Fractal Trader
This article is full of innaccuracies.

Obama Sr. did not “date” Stanley Ann Dunham. Except for Neil Abercrombie(who has lied repeatedly about Obama), there is no record of any of his friends ever hearing him mention her or seeing them together. Stanley Ann got pregnant at the latest when she was 17 about a month after she started classes at the University of Hawaii.

There is no record of them getting married. Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann never lived together, there was no family. Stanley Ann was in Seattle with Barack Jr. in August 1961 and didn't return to Hawaii until after Barack Sr. had left for Harvard.

When Barack Sr. got a high school girl pregnant while at Harvard he sent her to London for an abortion. This is part of his official record. Unless Obama Sr. had been pressured or paid to be named as the father he surely would have recommended Stanley Ann get an abortion.

There is no evidence that Obama Sr. ever saw Obama Jr. except the one uncomfortable, rushed picture at the airport. At this time Obama Sr. had been married to Ruth Nidesand for 5 years and had 3 children with her. And Stanley Ann had been married 5 years to Lolo Soetoro.

21 posted on 07/07/2011 7:24:34 AM PDT by detective
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To: Mobties

Clearly Obama senior was a cad and bigamist as well as a Marxist. SAD wasn’t exactly mother of the year either and he was raised far more by his grandparents than birth mother. The key point however is that Barry Sotero’s father was NOT a US citizen...even by Barry’s own admission. Therefore Barry Sotero is NOT a natural born US citizen and is constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS.


22 posted on 07/07/2011 7:26:15 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Red Badger

23 posted on 07/07/2011 7:29:27 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Fractal Trader

“Dreams From My Father”. Who could be inspired by such a lowlife?


24 posted on 07/07/2011 7:30:53 AM PDT by montag813 (SECURE THE DAMN BORDER! http://www.StandwithArizona.com)
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To: detective
There is no record of them getting married.

This is false. There are several documents, official and unofficial, which document the marriage and the marriage license records in the Hawaiian island of Maui on February 2, 1961. If you still have doubts, you can read my earlier posts on the subject.

25 posted on 07/07/2011 7:53:34 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader
I think the meme: 'Natural Born Citizen = born of two Citizen parents' is starting to spread. So, sooner or later the MSM will run a story that Obama is not the child of Barack Sr., but some other black citizen.
26 posted on 07/07/2011 8:01:36 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: detective

What is the story on this meeting at the airport? Is it from the book Dreams of my Father? The source of the photo in the Boston Globe is Obama for America. I think I read somewhere that the picture was photoshopped. “Awkward” describes the picture as well as a real or imagined event.


27 posted on 07/07/2011 8:30:28 AM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: The Great RJ

Technically, Obama was illegitimate. This raises the question of whether the illegitimate child naturally follows the citizenship of the mother or the father ... if in the former case, it would make Obama a natural born bastard.


28 posted on 07/07/2011 8:31:13 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Fractal Trader; Red Steel; Nachum; STARWISE; Kenny Bunk; Natural Born 54; little jeremiah; LucyT
This is amazing and the timing suspicious.

Was this adoption information redacted and if not how did this reporter get it, or did she just hold this back to hype her book a week before it goes on sale, which begs the question of what else is she holding back?

At one point the author has quotes she obtained form an interview with a still living, but unnamed by request, INS investigator regarding much more definitive conclusions that BHO I was, in fact, still married in Kenya and in fact, no doubt, a bigamist!

Oh, by the way, just when things are heating up over BHO II’s NBC status as dual citizen, being illegitimate would preclude BHO II from being a UK subject under the BNA of 1948.

Mysteriously, this article has lots of quotes from long-gone Gibbs regarding this adoption statement from BHO I, meaning that the writer has been keeping this under wraps from some time.

“Dreams from my Father”: Adoption! Great narrative there...

29 posted on 07/07/2011 8:40:27 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

It’s interesting that they’re still pushing a couple of myths. They keep saying Barak Sr. left when Obama was 2 years old. There’s still some confusion about how old Barak Sr. was and what year he was born. It casts doubt on whether Barak Sr. knew that he had a kid or whether he knew SAD kept the baby. It also gives a clearer perspective on Michelle Obama’s statement that SAD was very single when she gave birth. Barak Sr. apparently never lived as man and wife with SAD and he was not around when and wherever the baby was born. It almost looks like SAD might have been in a Salvation Army home ... or in Washington state somewhere.


30 posted on 07/07/2011 8:45:51 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

If that ain’t the worst photoshop I’ve seen yet, I don’t know what st. How long is Obama Sr’s left arm - 6 feet? How big is his hand? Bigger than his foot?

Geesh...

=8-)


31 posted on 07/07/2011 8:51:26 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: detective

There’s another photo here http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ann_Dunham_%281942-1995%29/pictures. Looks to be in front of a Christmas tree on Christmas morning.

Assuming, of course, that that is Barry 0 and senior 0 with Stanley.


32 posted on 07/07/2011 9:00:46 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Meet the New Boss

Was there a Salvation Army home in either Seattle or Vancouver in 1961?


33 posted on 07/07/2011 9:02:15 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

Is that fat kid Obama. Doesn’t really look much like him. And what’s up with SAD and the levitating Christmas present?? Barak certainly didn’t celebrate Christmas and it’s not clear that Mrs. Soetoro would have either.


34 posted on 07/07/2011 9:06:34 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Fractal Trader

““Subject got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ [Hawaiian for pregnant] and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away,’’

MISS DUNHAM huh? So, they call a married woman - a PREGNANT married woman - “Miss” and by her maiden name?

And although it states, by obamas own father, that the couple DO NOT live together, the inference is still made that the “family” was together for two years. Upside down land.


35 posted on 07/07/2011 9:06:47 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Fractal Trader

Oh my, now we’re being invited to have pity on barry bassturd, what with Moosechelle storming back to Chicago and the stories about how poor little barry was close to being abandoned to adoption. Something tells me there’s astroturf clinging to the backside of all this axelrod crap.


36 posted on 07/07/2011 9:11:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

This scenario is a curve that fits the available data points (using mathematics curve-fitting analogy) as well any presented.

The Globe seems to have the background. Remember they released the original set of INS FOIA records a few days after the LFBC came out. But they had them since 2009...

http://www.bluegrasspundit.com/2011/04/journalism-fail-boston-globe-reporter.html

What else do they have?


37 posted on 07/07/2011 9:22:58 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: edge919
Here's another myth:

“...Susan Botkin Blake, a high school friend of Dunham’s, describes how entranced her friend was with her small son during a visit to Seattle just weeks after he was born.”

“She was wildly in love with Barack Obama, her husband, and very excited about her future with him,’’ recalled Blake. “From my perspective, she had no equivocation about her baby in the slightest. She was thrilled with him.’’

While she may have been happy about her son, this business that she was looking forward to a future with sociopath bigamist Barry Sr. is obviously a complete lie, as the bulk of the article makes plain. However, it's possible that SAD was telling her Seattle friends this fable because the truth was too uncomfortable.

38 posted on 07/07/2011 9:36:47 AM PDT by mojito
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To: edge919
or in Washington state somewhere.

Or more likely, in Canada.

39 posted on 07/07/2011 9:38:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Sicvee

SAD and junior did not go to meet senior at the airport on arrival..the photo, if legit would be a departure photo.

This info is available on a thread several months ago.


40 posted on 07/07/2011 9:40:54 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: mojito

SAD married a couple of honesty-challenged individuals between Barak Sr. and Lolo Soetoro. I don’t see much to indicate that she was a very honest person either. Her situation with being dumped with a “little punishment” (as Obama says), would provide plenty of motive for SAD to twist the truth about her situation and how she described it to her friend. Obviously Barak Sr. had no intention of being with her as husband and wife. She was either fooling herself and trying to cover up that she was “very single” when she had him.


41 posted on 07/07/2011 9:49:20 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Mobties

You will not see the promised land....

Let my people go...


42 posted on 07/07/2011 9:53:38 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Fractal Trader

Feel free to link to them.

Haystack rummaging is time consuming.


43 posted on 07/07/2011 9:56:58 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Meet the New Boss
Interesting how the reporter of this piece refers to information that was blacked out in redaction on the copy of Obama Sr.'s immigration file that has been made public. In the public version, the talk of the Salvation Army does not appear.

Wow. That's not good. For somebody, I hope.

Public is public.

44 posted on 07/07/2011 9:59:22 AM PDT by bvw
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To: SvenMagnussen

“BHO II is still an Indonesian citizen living in America as a Permanent Resident Alien under the custody of a Refugee Resettlement Organization located in Connecticut.”

This would explain the Connecticut SSN....


45 posted on 07/07/2011 9:59:22 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: tanstaafl44

I don’t know about that theory about the use of II, instead of Jr.

We used II for my son, instead of Jr. because his grandfather hated being a Junior at seventy years old.


46 posted on 07/07/2011 9:59:22 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Texas Fossil

I don’t see much to indicate that SAD would go to Canada to have the baby. It’s possible, but it seems kind of unnecessary, especially if there was a Salvation Army home in Seattle or Honolulu.


47 posted on 07/07/2011 10:01:00 AM PDT by edge919
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To: All

This all kind of gives one an understanding of how messed up Barry O is, with the mentality of his so-called natural parents...


48 posted on 07/07/2011 10:03:02 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: All

This all kind of gives one an understanding of how messed up Barry O is, with the mentality of his so-called natural parents...


49 posted on 07/07/2011 10:03:20 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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