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43 Weapons in Phoenix Traffic Stop Linked to ATF's 'Fast and Furious' (video)
ABC15/SWA (YouTube) ^ | 07-07-2011 | Stand With Arizona

Posted on 07/07/2011 8:57:39 AM PDT by montag813

The scope of Eric Holder's disastrous 'Fast and Furious" ATF operation just keeps expanding. Now a single traffic stop in Phoenix has revealed 43 weapons with serial numbers traceable to the the ATF scandal - taken from 4 illegal aliens arrested in the stop. How many guns has this Administration put in the hands of gangs throughout the U.S. How many children will die in drive-bys using weapons Holder GAVE to criminals? And with the ATF Director now saying the DoJ obstructing the investigation, the House GOP must not stop until all responsible are rotting in jail. And what did Obama know and when did he know it?

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1 posted on 07/07/2011 8:57:47 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813
Hey! They finally get to "trace" some weapons! Just imagine all the cool diagrams they'll get to make from the "data!" Lots of circles and arrows.

Eric Holder will love it. PowerPoint city!

2 posted on 07/07/2011 9:01:12 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: montag813

Didn’t Obama say to his left base to appeal desperately for votes that he was working on gun control under the radar?


3 posted on 07/07/2011 9:03:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: montag813

All with the intent of blaming this gun-running on American citizens—Iran/Contra, 2011.


4 posted on 07/07/2011 9:04:17 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: montag813
Wonder how this squares with the Fed's investigation(Harassment)of Sheriff Joe
5 posted on 07/07/2011 9:06:29 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: montag813

Like I said before, Dog meet Pony. The mere fact that NOT A SINGLE PERSON is ROTTING IN JAIL as we speak gives me assurance that NOTHING WILL BECOME OF THIS. Currently there is more than enough evidence to jail every person involved , including Eric Holder, for the rest of their lives, They should be charged with TREASON and upon conviction , Executed by Firing Squad on the White House Lawn. But since NOBODY is in JAIL, this is nothing more than a DOG AND PONY SHOW...


6 posted on 07/07/2011 9:06:40 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: montag813

How come Melson was so slow to catch on? Because if you look at his testimony carefully, the ATF “Fast and Furious” team was placed UNDER DIRECT CONTROL of the DOJ, rather than under Melson.


7 posted on 07/07/2011 9:07:24 AM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Yeah, but Eric Holder ain’t Ollie North

This has the potential to leave one heck of an ugly stain.
Just depends on if it is pursued by Congress (which it should be) or if it is covered up (which it will likely be)


8 posted on 07/07/2011 9:07:42 AM PDT by sawmill trash (Life's a long song. But the tune ends too soon for us all.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
"Didn’t Obama say to his left base to appeal desperately for votes that he was working on gun control under the radar?"

That's exactly what he said....secret projects....

9 posted on 07/07/2011 9:09:18 AM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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To: eyeamok
Many people died because of the scheme, included a US border patrolman. Wonder how many innocent Mexican families were impacted by this. The callousness of this administration is chilling.
10 posted on 07/07/2011 9:11:57 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: montag813

Holder is accessory to murder.

He should get death penalty. He probably tries to weasel his way out by claiming immunity. In anycase, international arrest warrant is deserved so he can never leave the country. New DOJ, under GOP President, can collaborate with Mexico so that the prosecution is smoother (e.g. to provide classified memos from DOJ).


11 posted on 07/07/2011 9:14:09 AM PDT by heiss
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To: montag813

The federal government is suppling weapons to the enemies of both Mexican and US citizens? Wow, this is about as bad as it gets.


12 posted on 07/07/2011 9:16:48 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: sawmill trash

If they manage to cover this up, we are doomed as a nation. Watching what happened with Obama’s elegibility question, I am afraid the same powers that enabled that fiasco may prevail here. Please Pray.


13 posted on 07/07/2011 9:16:51 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: heiss
"Holder is accessory to murder... arrest warrant is deserved so he can never leave the country."

I can see it now. All cable networks showing a live slow motion white Bronco ride with Holder being driven by a New Black Panther Party comrade.

14 posted on 07/07/2011 9:18:28 AM PDT by drpix
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To: montag813

What’s a few dead people compared to THE GLORY OF OBAMA, and achieving the Socialist wet dream of banning guns in America?

PRAISE BE TO THE WON!


15 posted on 07/07/2011 9:18:46 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: heiss

Nothing will happen to him. He is high up enough that he will never get the heat for it. Plus he is black so no matter how illegal it is it can never be his fault. Never mind that he openly sold guns to drug lord to kill Mexicans.


16 posted on 07/07/2011 9:19:40 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: montag813
There is a severe effort to conflate the Bush administration program which nabbed the buyers and weapons before leaving the area and never getting into Mexico, with the Holder.Obama program to allow buyers to funnel weapons to the cartels in Mexico and thus not controlling what happened tot he weapons so they end up in the hands of illegals in this country, too.

That the democrats would try to fabricate a crisis involving guns is no surprise, even when it obviously meant some people would be murdered with these weapons. We have decades of democrat defending and supporting and exploiting the slaughter of millions of alive unborn American children. The duplicitous media giving shelter fromt he truth to these criminal bastards is however way past guillotine deserving.

17 posted on 07/07/2011 9:22:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: opentalk

Though I agree with your sentiments regarding this administration, the ball is clearly in CONGRESS’S Hands, and they have the absolute power to imprison every last single person involved for the rest of their lives. Considering they refuse to do anything substantial regarding this case is quite telling in and of itself. DOG MEET PONY


18 posted on 07/07/2011 9:24:26 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: sawmill trash

“or if it is covered up (which it will likely be)”

With over 22,000 Orwellian Bootprints already defiling the “shall not be infringed” of Amendment 2, ......

That’s a big 10-4 buddy.


19 posted on 07/07/2011 9:25:22 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Mexico doesn’t care. They can issue an arrest warrant. President Palin can instruct dhs to monitor Holder’s movement so we can inform mexico when he leaves country.


20 posted on 07/07/2011 9:35:08 AM PDT by heiss
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To: heiss

Really crazy times when you consider this is the guy who is on the CIA’s back for interrogation of terrorists, to obtain information to help keep us safe.


21 posted on 07/07/2011 9:37:25 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: montag813

Wow!!!!

I just sent this to drudge, issa, and grassley.


22 posted on 07/07/2011 9:49:39 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who won’t leave.)
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To: eyeamok
"Though I agree with your sentiments regarding this administration, the ball is clearly in CONGRESS’S Hands, and they have the absolute power to imprison every last single person involved for the rest of their lives. Considering they refuse to do anything substantial regarding this case is quite telling in and of itself. DOG MEET PONY"

How does Congress have the power to imprison in this case? If the DOJ is corrupt and US attorneys won't prosecute, what does the House do? They can issue reports, harshly criticize, but when the Executive Branch is corrupt and in the hands of an enemy of the US, what next?

23 posted on 07/07/2011 9:50:04 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: opentalk

Just to be fair, is it very likely that any of the Mexican gangsters who used these walked guns would have had to do without a gun if there had not been any of this gun walking?

I think it can be taken as a given that if a crook wants a gun badly enough he will get it. Especially those on the level of the Mexican gangs. We don’t want to give Obama a back door to say “ooh, eeeeeeevil guns” right after Issa has shut the front door to it.


24 posted on 07/07/2011 9:51:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Truth29

If sufficient backbone existed, the House would impeach. I know many say that the Senate is exceedingly unlikely to convict and that Bill Clinton gained a sympathy bump after the Senate failed to convict him. But basically the House is the grand jury, and the Senate is the trial court. Grand juries don’t usually worry about how obstinate the trial court is.


25 posted on 07/07/2011 9:54:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: montag813

I’m unclear on something here. The guns in this bust, were they on their way to Mexico, or coming back into the country? Or do we know?


26 posted on 07/07/2011 9:55:53 AM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: montag813

Lawless leads to lawless...if the head is lawless this filters down to the citizens. IMPEACH THE SOB.


27 posted on 07/07/2011 9:55:55 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: sawmill trash

“Yeah, but Eric Holder ain’t Ollie North”

Yes...that is true. So true! This whole affair was to have ATF running guns and then blame it on Americans as a means to crush 2nd amendment rights. A complete fraud and “frame job”. The best part of the joke is we get to pay for our own demise and for these thugs! How funny...


28 posted on 07/07/2011 9:59:03 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: montag813

bump


29 posted on 07/07/2011 9:59:31 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: montag813
The precedent:

A botched scheme run by bumblers that backfired:


Congress begins to investigate:


An insider/official starts to sing "Pagliacci":


Loyalists first stonewall, then get tossed under the bus:


The famous final scene:

30 posted on 07/07/2011 9:59:46 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I was just wondering why Drudge doesn’t have anything up about Fast and Furious today.....


31 posted on 07/07/2011 10:00:27 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Unfortunately, the missing ingredient this time around is the constant, insistent investigation and reporting by the mass media - they went after Nixon to crucify him back then; now, they’re doing what they can to cover this up and protect Obama.


32 posted on 07/07/2011 10:03:21 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: montag813
And after all the investigation is completed and we find from the President right down to perhaps 100’s of his administration is guilty, nothing will happen.
33 posted on 07/07/2011 10:04:31 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: txmissy
Odd, Drudge has ignored it -seems upset with Murdoch today
34 posted on 07/07/2011 10:05:00 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: montag813

Holder was just arming the illegals American firearms dealers were unwilling to arm due to their prejudice.(sarc)


35 posted on 07/07/2011 10:05:25 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: eyeamok

Sometimes this takes a little time.

The Watergate scandal actually began September 9, 1971 with the burglary of Daniel Ellsberg’s shrink’s office.

Nixon’s resignation came almost 3 full years later on August 8, 1974.

Of course plenty of people went to jail in the interim, but even that took a minute to play out.


36 posted on 07/07/2011 10:08:57 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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37 posted on 07/07/2011 10:09:29 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: montag813

Just think what a wind fall this would have been for the democrats (commies really).

1) Arm criminals
2) Anarchy ensues
3) Pass laws to control to restrict & control the innocent
4) Go to step 1


38 posted on 07/07/2011 10:10:46 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: eyeamok

That Suks.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2745094/posts


39 posted on 07/07/2011 10:11:34 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 556x45
1) Arm criminals
2) Anarchy ensues
3) Pass laws to control to restrict & control the innocent
4) Go to step 1

Wrong !!

1) Arm criminals
2) Anarchy ensues
3) Pass laws to control to restrict & control the innocent
4) Once weapons are removed, mass murder those that oppose you ...


It's always the same throughout history ...

40 posted on 07/07/2011 10:15:46 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I agree, the criminal element will find ways to get weapons, You just don't expect the US government to help them. Without whistle blowers, or the death of the Border agent. It is hard to tell how long this would continue to operate.

I was also thinking in a broader context of the callousness of this administrations policies. From partial birth abortion, Obamacare rationing, eroding savings of seniors, Middle East meddling, debt and spending, bankrupting the country.... there seems no concern about people or the consequences of the agenda. (IMO)

41 posted on 07/07/2011 10:18:25 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Drudge only headlined one F&FGate story weeks ago and then it went off his page with other news or he took it down. It is odd that Drudge is not headlining any of this.


42 posted on 07/07/2011 10:19:15 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: montag813

What would 4 illegal aliens (invaders) in the USA need with these guns? I thought they all came here for work and to contribute to our economy? I also thought all the violence stopped at the border and didn’t occur on the US side.


43 posted on 07/07/2011 10:20:55 AM PDT by umgud
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To: opentalk

I know....this seems a wee bit more important than Murdoch to me.


44 posted on 07/07/2011 10:23:25 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: montag813

Liberals: We need to get guns OFF the streets
Holder: We need to get guns ON the streets.


45 posted on 07/07/2011 10:23:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: montag813

in the private sector, Holder would have been told by HR to clean out his desk and then escorted to the exit by security.

How is it he gets to report to work everyday when we know he is obstructing the investigation?
Every day he is there is another day he gets to clean up his tracks.
This unbelievable.


46 posted on 07/07/2011 10:24:38 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: txmissy

I have no idea. I sent him info on the TAMPA stuff as well as the this story.

I also faxed it to grassley and Issa.


47 posted on 07/07/2011 10:28:08 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who won’t leave.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
It is odd that Drudge is not headlining any of this.

It's not being talked about on TV or radio either, as far as I can tell. FOX ran a story about F&F on their website yesterday, but I didn't hear anything on FOX last night. All they wanted to talk about was the Casey Anthony story. Rush talked about the debt ceiling for his first hour. It's almost like the eligibility blackout. Has anyone heard any conservative commentators talking about this yet?

48 posted on 07/07/2011 10:29:01 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: eyeamok

And that is why it does not matter who is elected President next. He or she will continue the slide to the new world order or they will be assasinated.


49 posted on 07/07/2011 10:31:37 AM PDT by winodog
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To: montag813

Scary stuff that is being ignored by the media. Imagine if this were done by a republican? Nobody died in Watergate break-in, and look how that fiasco went.


50 posted on 07/07/2011 10:33:21 AM PDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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