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Operation Gunrunner was funded by the 2009 Stimulus Package
7/7/2011 | Domandred

Posted on 07/07/2011 10:06:47 AM PDT by Domandred

Something about Project Gunrunner (gunwalker, fast and furious) has been bugging me but I just couldn't put my finger on it.

This morning when I woke up I remember seeing Project Gunrunner in a bill that was discussed here. The original thread about it was a rumor thread that HR45 had been rolled into the stimulus package.

In that thread I scanned the text of H.R.1 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 for gun, firearm, etc and came up with a hit.

I posted in the thread: "Only time “gun” or “firearm” appears is in the part that give $10,000,000 to the ATF for Project Gunrunner. That was H.R. 495, asking for 15,000,000 for Gunrunner".

H.R. 495 that I mentioned never made it out of committee, but it looks as it was to specifically fund Gunrunner.

Instead portions of it were rolled into the stimulus package a month later. That text found in H.R.1 is:

For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’ for the ATF Project Gunrunner.

Notice that's $40,000,000 for Southern border enforcement, $10,000,000 of which specifically for Project Gunrunner. What does $10 million pay for here? It didn't hire any new agents that I am aware of.

What this tells me is that several congressmen also had knowledge of what Gunrunner was going to entail. This isn't just the ATF and DOJ. This is all levels and areas of government. Even members of the House and Senate knew what Project Gunrunner was.


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Sorry if this as been mentioned and discussed before. I didn't see it in various threads and thought it might be important enough to deserve it's own thread.
1 posted on 07/07/2011 10:06:52 AM PDT by Domandred
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To: Domandred
Obama always said the stimulus would create jobs. Little did we know, he was referring to Mexican gun runners...
2 posted on 07/07/2011 10:09:33 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Domandred

Great catch!


3 posted on 07/07/2011 10:09:44 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.. VOTE out the RATS!)
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To: Domandred

Nice work.


4 posted on 07/07/2011 10:09:44 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Domandred

Good stuff. Read later and get up to speed.

More bricks in the wall / straws on the camel’s back.


5 posted on 07/07/2011 10:09:51 AM PDT by don-o (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Domandred

I have never seen this.

I thought they paid for it with some slush fund/undercover of the night funds.

It is right there in broad daylight.


6 posted on 07/07/2011 10:09:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Domandred

So, anyone who voted for the stimulus should be extradited to Mexico?


7 posted on 07/07/2011 10:09:57 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: All

thanks


8 posted on 07/07/2011 10:10:46 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Domandred

And while you’re at it, read H.R.495 that I linked above. It never made it out of committee but it’s a very interesting read looking back given what we know now.


9 posted on 07/07/2011 10:11:02 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: apillar

...or that Shovel Ready Projects were the graves of the victims that were killed by these ATF guns.


10 posted on 07/07/2011 10:11:02 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Domandred

That’s why congressional hearings are nothing but money wasting shows put on for the people.

We need a means of having this sort of investigation conducted by people outside of Washington and that doesn’t mean people chosen by politicians.


11 posted on 07/07/2011 10:11:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Domandred

Great reporting. I haven’t seen this anywhere else.


12 posted on 07/07/2011 10:11:15 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Domandred

Well, it gets more and more interesting ...

“Even members of the House and Senate knew what Project Gunrunner was.”

No they didn’t, no one had time to read the bill.

And then another question might be ... what else is in that bill we don’t know about?


13 posted on 07/07/2011 10:12:21 AM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Domandred

BUMP!

(Great catch)


14 posted on 07/07/2011 10:13:16 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Domandred

bfl


15 posted on 07/07/2011 10:13:38 AM PDT by Currentriverrat (Stop cap and trade fraud.)
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To: Ingtar

Yup, Pelosi and Reed should have lots of friends in the Mexican prison system.


16 posted on 07/07/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by sniper63 (Ever wonder why they call themselves Hamas, but don't eat pork?)
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To: Domandred

shovel ready, for the shootees that is.


17 posted on 07/07/2011 10:14:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Free America52

Even if they had read it ..probably many glazed over it.

But someone knew...and put it in.


18 posted on 07/07/2011 10:14:26 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Free America52

Who penned the damn thing then? Obama?


19 posted on 07/07/2011 10:15:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Domandred

Project ‘Gunrunner’ was different than ‘Fast and Furious’. Gunrunner had the aim of arresting traffikers before the guns left the continental US....Obama amended it to ‘Fast and Furious’ and then refused to allow agents to follow the guns out of the store,etc. In other words..it became ‘Gunwalker’ i.e. ‘Fast and Furious’ and the guns were allowed to ‘walk’...something never before done...EVER!

Good research...however it will be shown to have been changed by Obama/Holder from the original intent of the program in short order. Testimony has already shown this gross lawlessness.


20 posted on 07/07/2011 10:15:43 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Ingtar
I wonder if Sen. Grassley and Rep. Issa staff's know this information.

If this is written into law the New York Times is a Government entity for doing nothing about this at all.

I really hope Mexico indicts some US Officials and I bet they will talk there.

21 posted on 07/07/2011 10:16:11 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Dinah Lord

Yeah, great catch....do we know if there were any actual hearings on this bill?? If so, someone from the Administration, not some buffone in Phoenix, would have had to appear to address the issue for which they were asking for money.

I think back to the scene in Clear and Present Danger where Jack Ryan is testifying that no funds would be used to fund any military operations. Of course, outside his knowledge, the White House was planning on doing exactly that.


22 posted on 07/07/2011 10:16:41 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Another win for islam!

Who needs Hamas when we have Omoslem?


23 posted on 07/07/2011 10:17:41 AM PDT by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: Liz

Ping


24 posted on 07/07/2011 10:19:07 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Domandred

When Obama said “shovel ready” he really meant “gun running”.

Well, I guess it’s close.


25 posted on 07/07/2011 10:20:25 AM PDT by Gator113 (weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: Domandred

bump for later


26 posted on 07/07/2011 10:20:49 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Domandred

Great catch - time to start alerting Breibart, Drudge and others


27 posted on 07/07/2011 10:21:47 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Domandred
IMPEACH now!!!
28 posted on 07/07/2011 10:22:42 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, the Congress nor the POTUS penned the bill. It was done by one of Soros’ organizations. Glenn Beck talked about it in the past but I cannot remember the name of the organization.


29 posted on 07/07/2011 10:24:00 AM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Domandred
Seems reasonable that this makes the DOJ officials accessories to murder......and is definately an impeachable offence should the decisions be traced to the WH.
30 posted on 07/07/2011 10:24:00 AM PDT by cbkaty (Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy---W Churchill)
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To: Kristin

Ping; this is pretty interesting.


31 posted on 07/07/2011 10:25:56 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; ATLDiver; neverdem

Ping; a very interesting point by one of our own here at FR.


32 posted on 07/07/2011 10:27:33 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Free America52
Congress nor the POTUS penned the bill. It was done by one of Soros’ organizations.

I forgot about that, but you are right. It was the Apollo Alliance that wrote that, mentioned here:

Glenn Beck: Remember to Look at the Big Picture

33 posted on 07/07/2011 10:28:34 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

If it was mentioned before I and most of us missed it PLUS this information is more important than ever

Great Job. Freepers like you do a great service.

I am sending it to my rep and I bet most of us will.

This crap obama and dems are doing to kill America will be stopped

Thank you.


34 posted on 07/07/2011 10:29:01 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Domandred

Good stuff here, I just skimmed through but will pursuit it later.


35 posted on 07/07/2011 10:30:21 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Domandred

A salute for a nice piece of research!


36 posted on 07/07/2011 10:30:21 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: apillar

Beautiful...a campaign theme the MSM can’t totally ignore, “The Obama administration’s greatest job creation success is among Mexican gun runners!!”


37 posted on 07/07/2011 10:30:55 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Free America52

Regardless of if they read the bill before voting on it or not they had the opportunity to do so and should have! Voting for a bill specifically because you know it has funding for your pet project or pet cause is no way to perform your job duty as an elected representative. This is just like a CEO claiming plausible deniability for fraud or other illegal dealings of his company that occurred under his watch (he should have known about it because he is in charge - it is his bailiwick).

This is exactly what is wrong in washington!


38 posted on 07/07/2011 10:32:35 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: rod1

Beautiful...a campaign theme the MSM can’t totally ignore, “The Obama administration’s greatest job creation success is among Mexican gun runners!!”

I should have added that it is clearly the genius of Obama to have addressed niche job creation and population control all at the same time (sarcasm intended).


39 posted on 07/07/2011 10:33:21 AM PDT by rod1
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To: cripplecreek; Domandred

“We need a means of having this sort of investigation conducted by people outside of Washington and that doesn’t mean people chosen by politicians.”

Of course you are correct, and we have such investigation NOT chosen by politicians, and IS performed by people outside Washington.

It’s called FreeRepublic.com. This thread is a prime example. Good catch Domandred.


40 posted on 07/07/2011 10:33:53 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Domandred

Good find!


41 posted on 07/07/2011 10:33:56 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: jurroppi1

BANG!!!!


42 posted on 07/07/2011 10:34:12 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Domandred

If it had not had been for a blogger FFGate would have never been exposed. I think you found that our government stimulated a crime with money to ban guns for the democratic anti-gun cause.


43 posted on 07/07/2011 10:34:30 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Domandred

That has all the hallmarks of an Earmark.

Which Congresscritter Earmarked Gunrunner?


44 posted on 07/07/2011 10:36:02 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Gore Lauds Romney on Climate Position; 0bamaCare was based on RomneyCare.)
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To: Domandred

Another campaign commercial...Are you worried about whether guns will only be in the hands of criminals. Worry no more. Obama has a plan for that: Project Gunrunner.


45 posted on 07/07/2011 10:36:17 AM PDT by rod1
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To: scooby321

“I wonder if Sen. Grassley and Rep. Issa staff’s know this information.”

Darrel Issa is my congressman. I just emailed him this information with a link to the story. Excellent work!


46 posted on 07/07/2011 10:36:55 AM PDT by SDShack (0zer0care = "The Final Solution" - Socialized Euthanasia Healthcare)
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To: Domandred

Good find...confirms to me this entire scam was intended to blame gun running on Americans and thus a “nice little crisis not wasted” to destroy the 2nd amendment.


47 posted on 07/07/2011 10:37:09 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Domandred; Nachum; SunkenCiv

BTTT


48 posted on 07/07/2011 10:37:09 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Domandred

Operation Gunrunner is not the same as Operation Fast and Furious. Operation gunrunner actually arrested straw purchasers. Operation fast and furious let them go. “gunwalker” is a nick name given to operation fast and furious.


49 posted on 07/07/2011 10:37:46 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: RummyChick

Project Gunrunner was already in effect. It was started under bush. This waa to continue THAT program, but the chief executive and the doj changed the rules and ordered th ATF to back off arresting the perps. THAT is when things began to spiral out of control nd the guns that “walked” got away. This op goes straight to the oval office and obama is a murderer responsible for the deaths of at least two American law enforcement officers and who knows how many other innocent people. A murderer without conscience, flat out, pure simple.


50 posted on 07/07/2011 10:38:52 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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