Posted on 07/07/2011 2:04:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
NEVER cede any power, no matter how small, to any “world” agency! Tent-Camel-Nose...
Ok, so it is the "United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea". That sounds just as awful to me. The idea of forking over royalties for US hard work extracting resources to an organization where we have only a single vote compared to the myriad of US-hating countries makes zero sense to me. Freedom of navigation is a red herring: that's why we have the world's best navy, and if the Red Chinese are not going to respect the US Navy, they surely are going to ignore any provisions of this convention that they do not like. Just as they and other countries routinely ignore their treaty obligations in a host of other areas, while suckers like the US and UK try to comply with them. This treaty is a dog and should be voted down. (Further evidence: which Republicans are really pushing this thing today? Dick Lugar, John McCain, no doubt Lyndsey Graham..... gets a man to thinking)
I do I have and the author is wrong in their reference.
The USA can adopt with multiple exceptions and rejections.
As I have said, the USA already acts under the terms of the revised treaty.
The Federal goverment is trying to write itself out of the job giving its job to the “U.N.” among other Foreign despots.
Meanwhile to keep itself from becoming completely redundant it pushes itself into the domestic domain of our States.
We have the same exclusive ecconomic resource area that we now exercise.
We can also reject their dispute system AND military ships are not subject to this.
it is all in the revised treaty.
I don’t have time to find the list of who has signed the treaty already.
There is no handover of resource income. (see the continental shelf reference)
Yep. Not doing what it ought, while doing what it ought not.
unless the exception provision regarding disputes is exercised.
Then what do we need it for, if it doesn’t do anything?
Why should any government be able to demand royalties for activies that occur beyond their legal boundaries? If the drilling in occurring outside the 200-mile limit, how does the US or any other country have the right to control activities in international waters?
to have other natiions that have recognized it to keep off our grass and to force disputes into the usa.
this is subject to nations like russia and china having signed it, otherwise we need more warships.
Why should any government be able to demand royalties for activies that occur beyond their legal boundaries? If the drilling in occurring outside the 200-mile limit, how does the US or any other country have the right to control activities in international waters?
Why should any government be able to demand royalties for activies that occur beyond their legal boundaries? If the drilling in occurring outside the 200-mile limit, how does the US or any other country have the right to control activities in international waters?
“If the drilling in occurring outside the 200-mile limit, how does the US or any other country have the right to control activities in international waters?”
Just a guess, but perhaps the same way the feds induce states to accept nationwide speed limit standards and do a billion other things they have no authority to do: money. Probably they tie subsidies, tax status, licenses, etc. to compliance with taxes on activities in international waters.
So, if we sign, we don't need warships any more, right?
“One of LOST’s “bathwater” provisions, Article 82, would cause the United States to lose a significant amount of revenue. If the U.S. ratifies LOST, it would be required under Article 82 to forfeit royalties generated from oil and gas exploration on the continental shelf beyond 200 nautical miles, an area the U.S. calls the “extended continental shelf” (ECS).”
At what distance from US shores are the Communist Chinese and Brazilians drilling?
I don’t know.
They need it to be brought up to a vote so they can resoundingly reject it. We should also get out of the treaty it was based on which governs outer space. The only way space will be truly opened up for exploration is if it is profitable to do so.
It is probably only a matter of seconds before the Indiana quisling Richard Lugar (Nixon's favorite Senator) decides that this treaty is some sort of "emergency" and needs instant ratification like START III. Sensible nations execute the SOBs that devise these schemes for stripping themselves of sovereign nation status.
We need to abrogate a lot of treaties and not enter into or even negotiate any more under any foreseeable circumstances.
“The US ALREADY abides by the treaty...The US could/can elect to have all disputes involving the US heard in the us arbitration panels...Since the US is not part of the treaty the russians are claiming the new arctic sea lanes and resources...this is not the rejected first treaty, this is the treaty rewritten AFTER ronald regan rejected the first one.”
And it’s great to know that you and Dick Lugar will be pulling for it. In the meantime, the rest of the free republic can support the current U.S. regimen, if only to keep money out of the hands of the latest U.N. run bureaucracy. And to stop future deep sea exploration from being overseen and taxed by them, just as we’ve ceded exploration authority in Anarctica and space.
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