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Atlanta announces anti-cheating plan (beyond "culture of fear, intimidation and retaliation")
Times Free Press ^ | 7/08/11

Posted on 07/08/2011 6:05:38 AM PDT by Libloather

Atlanta announces anti-cheating plan
published Friday, July 8th, 2011
by Associated Press

ATLANTA — As the Atlanta school district grapples with a cheating scandal that has drawn national attention, the interim school superintendent said Thursday that the district will automatically investigate suspicious test scores and require ethics training for all employees.

The changes announced by interim Superintendent Erroll Davis Jr. come two days after state investigators said 178 educators had cheated on standardized tests used to meet federal benchmarks dating back to 2001. Davis reiterated Thursday that none of those educators will work in an Atlanta classroom again.

The educators face possible criminal charges and could lose their teaching licenses for changing answers on students’ tests and helping students answer questions. Some may face charges of lying to investigators or tampering with state documents.

“This is just a start,” said Davis, who has been on the job less than a week.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesfreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atlanta; cheating; fear; school
Need a few more details other than this softsoap?

MUCH more info here ---> Probe of Atlanta schools finds (38) principals, teachers directed cheating

In another school, a teacher tells investigators that her principal warned them, "if anyone slanders me I will sue them out the ass."

And ---> Atlanta public school exams fudged

"APS is run like the Mob," the teacher said, according to the investigation report.

1 posted on 07/08/2011 6:05:53 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

No one will get fired, these are Holders people.


2 posted on 07/08/2011 6:09:03 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Libloather

Expel the cheaters? From their jobs!


3 posted on 07/08/2011 6:13:21 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Libloather
Davis reiterated Thursday that none of those educators will work in an Atlanta classroom again.

Unless and until I start seeming them go to jail, I'm just going to assume this means they'll get transferred to cushy "admin" jobs instead, at the same union-guaranteed salary and benefits scale.

4 posted on 07/08/2011 6:14:33 AM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: org.whodat

Yawwwwwnnnnn.... Anybody thinks anything will change in Atlanta, please have some more Cool Aid. EVERYTHING that hits the news as ‘an item’ or ‘a quote’ in Atlanta politics is purely for the purpose of perpetuating the status quo. It’s stained and shamed the entire state. All of this to attempt to satisfy the whiners and their NAACP.


5 posted on 07/08/2011 6:14:58 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: org.whodat
Hotlanta...

I have been pulling for Black America to get its act together, there is way too much wasted energy and talent there. For a while it looked like Atlanta might point the way but it is a dismal failure on almost every level. And, that is bad for all of us as Americans.

6 posted on 07/08/2011 6:17:00 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Libloather

I’ll believe it (punishment for these people) when I see it. However, at least they’re talking about it and some light is being shined on the situation, since it sounds as if it was not only cheating, but a whole system of coercion and organized fraud.

Sadly, I suspect that if you looked at other majority black school districts, you’d find the same thing going on.

There’s no reason blacks can’t learn and can’t compete, but the fact that they have been clients of the Democratic Party for generations has made them think of cheating as their first resort. It’s all about gaming the system.


7 posted on 07/08/2011 6:17:45 AM PDT by livius
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To: Libloather

If they actually taught the kids, they wouldn’t have to cheat for them. No wonder they hated No Child Left Behind. The teachers union knew they couldn’t make the grade when all they do is fill their own pockets.


8 posted on 07/08/2011 6:20:06 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: org.whodat

No one will lose so much as a reserved parking space.


9 posted on 07/08/2011 6:23:49 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Libloather

And the people imagined they would not be found out?

If you do this once, you have to do it every year or it looks like the student performace has gone down. Then they investigate why it has gone down and you are caught.

If you have to do it every year you are bound to get caught.

I don’t think these people are any smarter than the kids they are teaching.


10 posted on 07/08/2011 6:24:04 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Libloather
and require ethics training for all employees.

Dat be's wacist!!


11 posted on 07/08/2011 6:24:53 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: Crucial
If they actually taught the kids, they wouldn’t have to cheat for them.

The Atlanta "teachers" are union and their main qualification for the job is that they are "Holder's people", so they don't have to teach.

12 posted on 07/08/2011 6:26:23 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Libloather

The Government School Collective is a failed social experiment. 150 years is enough.

The quality of Education in this country has fallen in direct proportion to the amount of its collectivisation, perhaps exponentially so.

There is actually a cliff in Academic performance occuring shortly after the establishment of the Federal Department of Education by James Earl Carter. This is not a coincidence.

Stupid people will always vote Demon-commie-cRAT.

Students brainwashed in collectivisim and steeped in Marxism will always vote Demon-commie-cRAT.

The government School Collective helps promote stupid people and brainwashed Marxists.


13 posted on 07/08/2011 6:27:53 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: super7man

**I don’t think these people are any smarter than the kids they are teaching.**

See exhibit “A” in the post just below your reply.


14 posted on 07/08/2011 6:28:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: Crucial
Cheating? You know what struck me about this article? They've got one employee for every eight kids in the district. No wonder the school system is bankrupt.
15 posted on 07/08/2011 6:30:03 AM PDT by Old North State (Don't blame me, I voted for Pedro)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“The Atlanta “teachers” are union and their main qualification for the job is that they are “Holder’s people”, so they don’t have to teach.”

Actually they HAVE continued to teach the urban population that cheating, lying and stealing is perfectly accepatable.


16 posted on 07/08/2011 6:35:09 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Arrowhead1952
What about Beverly Hall..who just retired? She has to face criminal charges..

Re the teachers who will lose their jobs.has the local union or the NEA jumped in yet? any comments from them?

17 posted on 07/08/2011 6:35:38 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the earth..it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: Libloather

“...and require ethics training for all employees.”

Oh yea! Now their serious!!!


18 posted on 07/08/2011 6:38:02 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: wtc911

“For a while it looked like Atlanta might point the way but it is a dismal failure on almost every level.”

I’ve never seen any hope there.


19 posted on 07/08/2011 6:42:43 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Libloather

Yes, that’s what they need ... ethics training and an anti-cheating plan. The whole problem was that nobody had explained to the teachers that redoing the tests was wrong, and they didn’t have a Plan!

Good gravy, have we not reached the bottom of the stupidity barrel yet?


20 posted on 07/08/2011 6:44:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: Libloather

Somewhere, somehow this has to be tied to the HOPE scholarship.


21 posted on 07/08/2011 6:45:46 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Yeah, ethics training is a joke. CHEATING AND LYING ARE WRONG. How much more training does a body need.


22 posted on 07/08/2011 6:46:28 AM PDT by all the best
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To: org.whodat

That’s not cheating - it’s Social Justice.

/s


23 posted on 07/08/2011 6:53:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: wtc911

The sad thing is these parents will be putting their kids back into a failed system in the fall instead of letting the powers that be know that they will take care of their childrens’ education from now on. That’s what these so-called educators are banking on. The parents don’t have the initiative to ask their pastors to make classroom space available in their churches to educate these children. The school relies on truancy laws and a “free” babysitting service to coerce parents into sending their kids to the public schools. It doesn’t matter to school personnel if the kids learn or not. They’re a captive audience whose sole purpose is to provide a salary to these creeps.

It won’t change until the parents threaten to pull their kids out.


24 posted on 07/08/2011 6:54:22 AM PDT by goldi (')
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To: Libloather
The Atlanta plantation still has owners, stewards, overseers, bossmen and folks. Once 'pawn-a-time the owners were intelligent ruthless men who know how to "pull da line". They're all dead & gone. The inmates have run Atlanta for the past thirty years.

Atlanta BoE is symptomatic.

25 posted on 07/08/2011 6:57:59 AM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: ken5050
any comments from them?

I want to hear the SRM report this and include pictures of the perps on every newscast for the weeks until school starts again. I know, not going to happen since they are holder's people.

26 posted on 07/08/2011 7:00:37 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: Libloather

Wait, I think I have the perfect anti-cheating plan: TEACH!!!


27 posted on 07/08/2011 7:01:07 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Libloather
Mark my words, folks -- this Atlanta case is just the tip of the iceberg.

I am willing to bet that you can find widespread cheating of this kind in many large school districts in this country. And we can all thank Mr. George W. Bush and his silly "No Child Left Behind" nonsense for all this sh!t. Every Federal dollar that is tied to student performance is a major incentive for school districts to make fraudulent representations about the performance of their students.

The one thing that might vary is the manner in which this cheating is carried out.

28 posted on 07/08/2011 7:01:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: goldi
It won’t change until the parents threaten to pull their kids out.
29 posted on 07/08/2011 7:01:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: Broker

I’m shocked that the interim superintendent is one of Holder’s people. I believe that is the number one qualification of any public school superintendent nowadays. I remember a situation in Greensboro, NC a few years back where one of Holder’s dudes with no experience running a school system (he was a lawyer, I believe, who worked in administration in the Charlotte school system) was picked over a highly qualified, current school system superintendent in a smaller area of the state. She wasn’t qualified because she wasn’t one of Holder’s people, I suppose.


30 posted on 07/08/2011 7:14:04 AM PDT by amishman
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To: Libloather

I’m sure that Jesse and Al are in the concourse at Hartsfield just waiting for the limo ride to the hastily assembled educational forum on “Honesty and Ethics in Todays Urban School Systems”


31 posted on 07/08/2011 7:15:51 AM PDT by Artie
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To: Libloather
Maybe the city could hire honest qualified people instead of affirmative action rubber stamps for the placation of the, "Look at us, we're hiring black women so we must be good," mantra.

I guess this little episode could lead one to conclude that anybody can be corrupt, not just the straight, white, men.
32 posted on 07/08/2011 7:17:52 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Alberta's Child
And we can all thank Mr. George W. Bush and his silly "No Child Left Behind" nonsense for all this sh!t.

We also need to especially thank those who did the cheating, unless NCLB had a section requiring cheating. I don't know that it did.
33 posted on 07/08/2011 7:22:42 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Disability insurance plans don't have provisions that require people to file fraudulent claims, either. But the mere existence of this kind of thing provides enormous incentives for people to game the system.

Anyone who knows how programs like NCLB work could have seen this coming from a mile away. That's why I have all the confidence in the world that this sort of scandal is widespread.

I'll even predict the next step in the game, too. In order to address potential problems with cheating among teachers and administrators, additional Federal oversight of the NCLB funding process will be needed. So there will be thousands of additional bureacrats added to the U.S. Department of Education in the coming years -- specifically to oversee school districts and monitor testing. Eventually, every classroom will have a minimum of two staffers: a teacher and a Federal monitor.

If you think that sounds ridiculous, I'll just point out one similar item in the book/movie, "The Hunt for Red October." If you're familiar with either of them, just ask yourself why a "political officer" would be needed on a combat vessel.

34 posted on 07/08/2011 7:32:36 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Libloather
ethics training for all employees

We have in our midst an entire culture steeped in dishonesty and immorality. An ethics workshop ain't gonna fix it. Atlanta should purge its schools.

35 posted on 07/08/2011 7:41:25 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people. -- L. Von Mises)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Mark my words, folks — this Atlanta case is just the tip of the iceberg.”

You bet! But it’s not limited to large or even urban school districts. My children attended Fairfax County (VA) public schools, purportedly the No. 1 public school system in the country, and one of their class valedictorians (4.2 gpa) required remedial reading in her first semester at UVA! (And UVA is no academic bulward.) The assessments of high schools in northern Virginia, in particular, were based on preposterous criteria—family income, residence lot-size and whether owned or rented, number of children in family, parents’ education and employment data, student grade-point averages, SAT scores, Advanced Placement offerings (in approximately that sequence, along with at least ten other stats). And don’t let the student grade-point or SAT average statistics fool you: one of my daughters learned after she began teaching middle school that an F-grade in any subject for any student was simply beyond the pale. “Can’t you give the child a make-up test or an opportunity for extra credit?” SATs, on the other hand, during my older children’s HS years were either dumbed down or (as they were later described) “recentered” FOUR TIMES! Sure, some students will shine regardless of the inferiority of the education they’re getting, but most won’t graduate with even rudimentary skills. Worse still, not even an elected school board hell-bent on correcting the situation has the time to influence any part of the system, a system wholly owned by teachers’ unions.

No Child was/is far from perfect, but the defense used by Atlanta’s and so many other teachers—too much pressure—is utterly criminal. County, state, and even national testing seems to be the only answer; but the composition, administration, and evaluation of such testing ought to be handled exclusively by private or nonschool-related entities.

Which will never happen. Better simply to home-school.


36 posted on 07/08/2011 8:14:34 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I saw hope. In the eighties and nineties a lot of well-educated and motivated black NYers (and others from the NE) saw Atlanta as a way to get back to southern roots and create a successful ‘black capital’. For a while it looked like it might work. I didn’t follow it though so I don’t know exactly what went wrong.


37 posted on 07/08/2011 1:23:40 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

“I didn’t follow it though so I don’t know exactly what went wrong.”

Systemic corruption.

The attitude from the top down to the bottom seemes to be, “This is our turn and we’re going to milk it for all it’s worth!”


38 posted on 07/08/2011 2:16:06 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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