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America's biggest teacher and principal cheating scandal unfolds in Atlanta
Christian Science Monitor/Yahoo ^ | July 5, 2011 | Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 07/08/2011 10:13:38 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes

.Award-winning gains by Atlanta students were based on widespread cheating by 178 named teachers and principals, said Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal on Tuesday. His office released a report from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation that names 178 teachers and principals – 82 of whom confessed – in what's likely the biggest cheating scandal in US history.

This appears to be the largest of dozens of major cheating scandals, unearthed across the country. The allegations point an ongoing problem for US education, which has developed an ever-increasing dependence on standardized tests.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: cheat; teachers; union
The tip of the iceberg.
1 posted on 07/08/2011 10:13:43 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes
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To: Past Your Eyes

Yeah; sorta makes you wonder how many other states are doing the same thing but haven’t been caught yet...


2 posted on 07/08/2011 10:15:46 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Past Your Eyes

“It “confirms our worst fears,” says Mayor Kasim Reed. “There is no doubt that systemic cheating occurred on a widespread basis in the school system.” The news is “absolutely devastating,” said Brenda Muhammad, chairwoman of the Atlanta school board. “It’s our children. You just don’t cheat children.” “

Kasim

Muhammed

Once again important information is being left out, but is still apparant


3 posted on 07/08/2011 10:16:32 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Who would expect anything less from a government-run educational system? Just follow the money.


4 posted on 07/08/2011 10:20:22 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: paulcissa

No child left behind.


5 posted on 07/08/2011 10:26:20 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: yldstrk

They probably have a large Black Muslim contingent in Atlanta...or at least, it seems that way every time I go through the Atlanta airport.

That said, I bet you’d find this same thing going on in most of the majority black districts in this country. This is not because blacks can’t learn, and certainly not because blacks can’t teach (my kids...not in majority black districts...had some great black teachers), but because blacks are owned by the Democratic Party, which never does something legitimate that it believes could be obtained by fraud. Lying and cheating are essential to the Dem way of life, and it should be no surprise that the most loyal Dem group of all is infected with this.


6 posted on 07/08/2011 10:27:37 AM PDT by livius
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To: Past Your Eyes
The allegations point an ongoing problem for US education, which has developed an ever-increasing dependence on standardized tests.

Yes, moron, you zeroed in right on the problem. It's the goddamm tests.

You're not a graduate of Atlanta schools, are you Patrik??

7 posted on 07/08/2011 10:29:26 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
In other news, homeschoolers in a 2009 progress report shows that they out-perform public schools by scoring 37 percentage points on standardized achievement tests.

37 percent! And that was 2009. The public school system should be dismantled in favor of charter schools.

8 posted on 07/08/2011 10:29:40 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: dagogo redux

No Child Left Behind is precisely what exposed this. Unless these “teachers” had been subjected to standardized tests, they wouldn’t even have pretended to be teaching.

Actually, I shouldn’t blame all the teachers: the really culpable ones are the administrators, who mistrusted and undervalued their teachers and kids so much they thought they’d never be able to reach the (very modest) standards without cheating.


9 posted on 07/08/2011 10:30:17 AM PDT by livius
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To: yldstrk
Once again important information is being left out, but is still apparant

If dihonesty and duplicity, and the appearance of competence is the modus operandi of the first black presidency and its entire administration, what can be expected from the people who made it possible?

10 posted on 07/08/2011 10:35:30 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Look for the Obama administration to cite the Atlanta cheating scandal in his continuing efforts to eliminate standardized testing and teacher accountability at the bequest of the teacher’s union.
Hidden in this following quotation from the news story is the administration/union philosophy that teachers should be rewarded for improving test scores but not penalized for failing test scores.
“Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in June that NCLB “is creating a slow-motion train wreck for children, parents, and teachers.” On the other hand, an Obama administration proposal – to pay bonuses to teachers who improve test scores in their classes – may shift the stakes without lowering them.”


11 posted on 07/08/2011 10:36:57 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: Salvavida
In other news, homeschoolers in a 2009 progress report shows that they out-perform public schools by scoring 37 percentage points on standardized achievement tests.

I really really hope that you meant 37 percentage points HIGHER, or the problem is worse than it appears.

12 posted on 07/08/2011 10:40:37 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: yldstrk

His full name is Mohammed Kasim Reed. He or his family must have converted. He received his undergraduate degree and law degree from Howard University. He’s a bachelor and claims to have had a girlfriend for two years but her identity is a big secret.


13 posted on 07/08/2011 10:41:55 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Past Your Eyes

NOTHING will happen to these people.

WE will hear about “healing” and “moving on” and “mistakes were made”

... and no one will go to jail, or lose their job.

... reassigned and resigned will be the worst outcome.

These folks ARE elite members of Atlanta’s protected class.


14 posted on 07/08/2011 10:42:28 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Past Your Eyes

If I were to defraud my customer; a couple of things would happen almost immediately.

First - before the court case was even typed - I would be fired. No retirement, no health insurance - FIRED on the spot.

Secondly - I would face charges of fraud, and likely would go to jail.


15 posted on 07/08/2011 10:42:50 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I really wish I could say I was surprised about all this, but, my high school English teacher could seldom use the proper form of there/they’re/their. Even if the teachers were just teaching to the test, at least they’d be teaching to something.


16 posted on 07/08/2011 10:44:28 AM PDT by Ellendra (Remember the Battle of Athens, Tennessee: Aug. 2, 1946)
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To: Past Your Eyes

We need something like a federal department to oversee the education system. Yep, that is what we need.


17 posted on 07/08/2011 10:48:04 AM PDT by GSWarrior (An economy where everybody makes a living selling each other houses or insurance policies won't work)
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To: paulcissa

Yeah, I grabbed this from Wiki:

“NCLB was originally proposed by the administration of George W. Bush immediately after he took office.[3] The bill, shepherded through the Senate by co-author Senator Ted Kennedy, received overwhelming bipartisan support in Congress”

Point is, the left points the finger at Bush solely with respect to this NCLB.

It is another example of why bigger government creating more legislation will not work. “Politically correct” and otherwise beauracracies lacking in integrity and noble missions will always figure out how to “game” the system.

Can’t wait to hear how George Bush and the Republicans will be blamed for the Pelosi-Obama heathcare Bill down the road, by the way.

Now, if we get to that “post-racial” America era, it will be interesting to do a study of how the race-card plays in the game of corruption. And I ask that knowing the race-card is not the only ace in the deck, to be sure.

To be sure, tight group identity, exclusion of others, and the shared group feeling that all is justified, leads to some interesting results. Are Holder and Obama playing with the same card of 1930’s Germans? Extreme question. Similar onion.


18 posted on 07/08/2011 10:48:59 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Blueflag

Worst thing (or best) likely to happen, IMO, is that Holder resigns.


19 posted on 07/08/2011 10:50:58 AM PDT by GSWarrior (An economy where everybody makes a living selling each other houses or insurance policies won't work)
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To: Blueflag

Sorry wrong thread.....


20 posted on 07/08/2011 10:52:02 AM PDT by GSWarrior (An economy where everybody makes a living selling each other houses or insurance policies won't work)
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To: GSWarrior

And let’s give them lots of money to make sure they have the tools to get the job done. Yep, great idea.


21 posted on 07/08/2011 10:52:44 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (NO MORE SECOND TERMS!!)
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To: Past Your Eyes

When I took the SATs back around 1966, you were not allowed to have any of your own teachers as monitors. Likewise, the NYS regents exams (standardized final examinations in subjects like History, Algebra I, Chemistry, ...) were administered by teachers other than those who taught you and graded by teachers from other schools. The teachers administering the test did not answer questions or offer any help whatsoever.

If the same people teach and are in anyway involved in the evaluation, there is an obvious conflict of interest.


22 posted on 07/08/2011 10:54:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Peel the feds out, return the schools to local and state hands. Federal meddling - just like with other jobs - is what ties the hands of serious educators in doing their jobs.

Teachers seem to be obsessed with their paycheck and their unions and that is all they focus on...at least the ones not sleeping with their students.

Get the feds out of our lives...the more they intervene, the worse life is and the further down our country goes.
23 posted on 07/08/2011 10:57:48 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: Blueflag

“NOTHING will happen to these people.

WE will hear about “healing” and “moving on” and “mistakes were made”

... and no one will go to jail, or lose their job.

... reassigned and resigned will be the worst outcome.

These folks ARE elite members of Atlanta’s protected class.”

Oh, how wrong you are!

You see, they will be suspended! Suspended with pay, and benefits, and pension! Can you imagine how that must hurt? Do you even understand the humility you must have, to have to sit home and collect your paycheck bi-weekly, and NOT TEACH!

I think you make light of the severe disciplinary action that these folks will incur.

There is probably no greater punishment for a NEA member, than being forced to stay away from their love of teaching and their calling in life to educate our youth.

I can’t imagine the anguish these folks are going to feel when they are forced to spend their time at the riverboats and casinos with their small pittance of compensation while they are indefinitely suspended.

Some will probably even be forced to move on to other democrat strongholds, and seek administrative jobs for metropolitan school districts outside of where they are now. They would be forced to relocate, and the forced to be administrators at the silly pay rate of say $250k a year (while still collecting the pay from their previous position of which they are suspended from), and then doubling up on their pensions. Oh, the humanity. If this is not all punishment enough, then I am not sure what is. I mean, this would be considered cruel and unusual by the UN council of human rights, but no.... here in Amerikkka, we humiliate these poor teachers by forcing them into suspensions with pay. Sometimes until retirement!!! This cannot stand!

/sarcasm of course


24 posted on 07/08/2011 11:00:08 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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25 posted on 07/08/2011 11:01:00 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: chuckee
Rush Limbaugh was quoting from the Atlanta "Urinal Constipation" on the Teacher Cheating Scandal. The "Urinal Constipation" is exactly what we call it here.

The teachers had parties where they altered the students test papers before submittal. Some tests were altered such that completely failing the reading section was altered to high scores in reading.

It was admitted that teachers were threatened if they reported this and those who did were lauded (one specifically by Obama).

The scandal is huge here in Hotlanta (as Rush called it rightly).

26 posted on 07/08/2011 11:01:54 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Past Your Eyes
Statement: "America's biggest teacher and principal cheating scandal unfolds in Atlanta"

Response: I heard on Fox this A.M. that the same scandal is being uncovered in Philadelphia, Baltimore, etc. etc.

Comment: I love to watch the "explanations:" i.e. lack of funding, the parents, truancy, the test itself fails to reflect the culture, the Bush administartion, the position of the stars and planets. Anything is blamed as the cause except a reality which must remain unexpressed.

27 posted on 07/08/2011 11:31:04 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Past Your Eyes

It’s happening all over. Who’s watching the watchers?

If they want to pursue standards they will apparently have to have an independent company do the testing. The teachers have a big vested interest in cheating. They are trying to save their own jobs.

An independent company has no interest in hashing up the results. I suppose they may be vulnerable to bribes, but, bribery is a big crime and I think they’d fear getting “caught on tape.”


28 posted on 07/08/2011 11:38:42 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: livius

“This is not because blacks can’t learn, and certainly not because blacks can’t teach”

No, it’s because the dominant black culture ridicules education.

It is a crying shame, because post-slavery many great black Americans really undertook to educate themselves and their black compatriots, to empower them and lift them out of poverty, etc.

Their legacy has been just about destroyed and that is a big loss.


29 posted on 07/08/2011 11:40:38 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Salvavida

“In other news, homeschoolers in a 2009 progress report shows that they out-perform public schools by scoring 37 percentage points on standardized achievement tests.”

Presumably without cheating.


30 posted on 07/08/2011 11:41:37 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Past Your Eyes

If only they had mo money, none of this would have happened.


31 posted on 07/08/2011 11:41:58 AM PDT by winodog
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To: dagogo redux

I heard some liberal blame this on Bush and the No Child Left Behind law. They said that because the standardized test scores are the most important factor in measuring school quality and student achievement,that schools teach to the test and everything revolves around that.

That may be somewhat true, however, does anything justify cheating on the tests,even though we hear complaints about teaching to the test????


32 posted on 07/08/2011 12:16:49 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well, if they teach the test, they wouldn’t have time to teach global warming and homersexuality.


33 posted on 07/08/2011 12:19:10 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: PeterPrinciple

...and condoms and self esteem and endangered species and sports.


34 posted on 07/08/2011 1:47:21 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (NO MORE SECOND TERMS!!)
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To: Publius6961

Yes, higher. Thanks for catching that.


35 posted on 07/08/2011 2:12:37 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

America’s biggest teacher and Principal cheating scandal..?
But the other thread said Mississippi was the fattest state. ?


36 posted on 07/08/2011 2:16:51 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“I heard some liberal blame this on Bush and the No Child Left Behind law.”

It is Bush’s fault for letting Ted Kennedy write the law.


37 posted on 07/08/2011 2:21:37 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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