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Fast and Furious: The Issue That Could Sink Obama GOPUSA.com
GOPUSA.com ^ | July 8, 2011 | Bobby Eberle

Posted on 07/08/2011 5:01:37 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

There is a laundry list of issues that may lead to Barack Obama being a one-term president. There's his massive, debt-financed spending plans designed to boost the economy that, of course, failed. There's his seemingly incoherent foreign policy. There's his complete grasp of how jobs are created. But there is another issue that is waiting to explode. Obama's administration has been involved in the idiotic plan of allowing American guns to be sold to Mexican drug dealers. These guns were used to kill an American Border Patrol Agent. So... what did Obama know, and when did he know it?

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) is chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. This committee is tasked with investigating the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms (ATF) and their so-called sting known as Operation Fast and Furious. Issa is trying to figure out which Obama official authorized the program in which "purchasers were allowed to buy guns in the U.S. -- in some cases, with taxpayer money, Issa said -- and then send those guns to Mexican drug cartels."

As CNSNews.com reports, the operation was established "to track the guns to see where they'd end up, but Issa says tracking devices were not put on most of the guns:"

"With only two exceptions where they put tracking devices on (the guns) was there any physical tracking beyond basically a few hours of following the first car, at most. In one case, they did watch (the guns) go on a GPS device quite a ways into Mexico, but of course they didn't inform the Mexican officials, and they didn't have a team on the other side of the border to follow it, so at some point the signal simply disappeared."

In December 2010, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered. At the scene were two rifles that were sold to a smuggler through the ATF's Fast and Furious program.

CNSNews.com has an outstanding timeline of the program.

In this operation, which began in the fall of 2009 and continued into early 2011, the federal government purposefully allowed known or suspected gun smugglers to purchase guns at federally licensed firearms dealers in Arizona. The government did not seek to abort these gun purchases, intercept the smugglers after the purchases, or recover the guns they had purchased. In some cases, as the government expected they would, the smugglers delivered the guns to Mexico drug traffickers.

Can you say INSANITY? The Obama administration puts together a program to track guns all the way to the bad guys, but doesn't actually track the guns and certainly doesn't get the bad guys. They basically made it easier for Mexican drug smugglers to get guns... guns that were used to kill an American!

Sean Hannity, on his Fox News program, interviewed Issa on his investigation into Operation Fast and Furious:

PART 1

Here's Part 2 of the interview:

PART 2

CNSNews.com's White House correspondent asked a simple question during a recent press briefing: What was the exact date that Obama learned about the ATF operation. Here's the response:

And so we have a program that was designed to fail... a program that purposely allowed guns to get into the hands of Mexican drug dealers. Aren't liberals supposed to be in favor of stronger gun control? Does that only apply to Americans and not to guns being used against Americans?

As Issa commented in the CNSNews.com story, "Because the operation involved wiretaps and other agencies -- including the FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration, and the U.S. Attorney's office in Arizona -- Issa said it's clear to him that the guns-to-Mexico operation goes to the 'highest levels' of the Justice Department."

This program is so plain stupid that it smacks of Obama thinking it up himself. What did he know, and when did he know it? Those are the questions.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; corruption; dea; democrats; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; govtabuse; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; impeachable; incompetence; melson; obama; obamatruthfile; traitorous; treason
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1 posted on 07/08/2011 5:01:41 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

During the Clinton years I learned not to get my hopes up.

0bama is a wicked bastard and has the devil himself on his side. Evil vs good.

Thank God we win in the end.


2 posted on 07/08/2011 5:11:17 PM PDT by unkus (Silence = Consent)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

With an apparently reported strong relationship of the drug cartels with Hezbollah, and Hezbollah well established in Mexico, expect Hezbollah to have some of the US weapons. And, with the newly opened Mexican truck entrances to the US, expect heavy infiltration of the Mexican trucking industry by the cartels, and...Hezbollah.


3 posted on 07/08/2011 5:12:02 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Melson sings and Holder dances


4 posted on 07/08/2011 5:12:21 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Iam1ru1-2; DaveLoneRanger; neverdem
The Obama administration puts together a program to track guns all the way to the bad guys, but doesn't actually track the guns and certainly doesn't get the bad guys

I think they were going to arrange for their friends in the establishment news media "discover" that guns from American dealers wind up in the hands of Mexican gangsters and drug smugglers by the hundreds, if not thousands. Then, again with the cooperation of the network news and big city papers, they were going to engineer a perception that existing gun laws CANNOT work in order to deliberately ignite a nationwide gun-banning hysteria. But, of course, this administration is clumsier than the Keystone Kops or the Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight.

5 posted on 07/08/2011 5:13:14 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("The evidence that Obama's true agenda is to weaken the country he 'rules' is stacking up."-N.Boortz)
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To: FreeKeys
But, of course, this administration is clumsier than the Keystone Kops or the Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight.

And people say that God is no longer looking over and protecting the United States!

6 posted on 07/08/2011 5:15:20 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: pointsal

I saw Kristen Powers lie about Issa at this fake meeting. See his remarks the night before. http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/index.html#/v/1042624898001/rep-darrell-issa-talks-operation-fast-and-furious/?playlist_id=86927


7 posted on 07/08/2011 5:16:07 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Iam1ru1-2

First nothing will happen until the stupid party grows theyselves a few sets of balls, and even then the dhims are in total CYA mode and until some scumbag dhim stands up and demands that comrade zero and security minister holder come clean they’ll just skate, kinda like after clinton sprang marc rich.


8 posted on 07/08/2011 5:19:06 PM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: unkus

I am afraid you are right.

Clinton was caught red handed (or maybe blue dress stained) and got away with it.

The only person the media went after was Ken Starr.


9 posted on 07/08/2011 5:22:13 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Fast and Furious: The Issue That Could Sink Obama

Only if GOPUSA, RINOs and the Republican party find their stones and spine.

10 posted on 07/08/2011 5:28:04 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Lord, Bless and Protect Darrell Issa!


11 posted on 07/08/2011 5:33:29 PM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: givemELL

We ARE going to have a shooting war against terrorists here in America’s borders. People better wise up to that fact sooner rather than later.

No, no one wants to think about it, but we better. And we better publicly discuss it while we still can.


12 posted on 07/08/2011 5:33:38 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Iam1ru1-2

For this issue to make a difference you need the media to publicize it, snd I doubt that that is going to happen. I just cannot imagine the networks and Washington Post and the such making this well-known. Not if it hurts their Bambi.


13 posted on 07/08/2011 5:35:47 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Fast and Furious was the only true “shovel ready” Stimulus Project.

Cemetery shovels, that is....


14 posted on 07/08/2011 5:39:02 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate......)
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To: Balding_Eagle
people say that God is no longer looking over and protecting the United States!

Well, we're still not dead yet so I suspect he's still blessing us with life. But I don't want to be here when all His buttons are pushed...and we're not far from that.

I do think he is withdrawing His Spirit among us...just as He did from Israel's temple...it wasn't all at once then either. So as we see Him withdraw...we also see what man and all we think we are be revealed without Him...pretty ugly picture.

15 posted on 07/08/2011 5:42:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Nobody died at Watergate. Impeach 0bama now!


16 posted on 07/08/2011 5:42:31 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Issa is trying to figure out which Obama official authorized the program

Holder talked about the program in Mexico months ago so he knew from the beginning. There is little doubt that Obama was in on it, too.

17 posted on 07/08/2011 5:43:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: givemELL

It is only a matter of time before the guns that Obama smuggled into Mexico is found in the hands of Hezbollah terrorists.


18 posted on 07/08/2011 5:45:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: caww

Look around, look at history, then name for me another country that has been a generous and loyal to the Christain faith as the United States is today.


19 posted on 07/08/2011 5:47:04 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: reg45

This is worse than Watergate by many, many multiples yet it is getting not one 1/000th of the attention in the mainstream media.

A couple of very limited reports just so they can say they reported on it.


20 posted on 07/08/2011 5:47:28 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


21 posted on 07/08/2011 5:51:33 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Ireland


22 posted on 07/08/2011 6:18:08 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

bfl


23 posted on 07/08/2011 6:19:55 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: Iam1ru1-2

OK, what does a tracking device look like?

I think everyone on the internet
should know what to look for.


24 posted on 07/08/2011 6:32:10 PM PDT by 50gunsalute
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To: scooby321

Send this to Kirsten ‘I used to love Wiener’ Powers:

http://patdollard.com/2011/07/obama-orders-launched-fast-and-furious/


25 posted on 07/08/2011 6:34:09 PM PDT by cranked
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To: FreeKeys
I was wondering what the purpose of this slimy operation was, thanks for cluing me in. I will check out PART 1 and PART 2 later.
26 posted on 07/08/2011 6:38:41 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Rumplemeyer

Isn’t that the country that includes Northern Ireland?


27 posted on 07/08/2011 6:38:56 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: Balding_Eagle
No, Northern Ireland is part of Great Brittan
28 posted on 07/08/2011 6:53:35 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Ba da bing, ba da bump.

Orange would look good on Holder and 0bama.

5.56mm

29 posted on 07/08/2011 7:01:21 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: FreeKeys

You nailed it.


30 posted on 07/08/2011 7:06:00 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Iam1ru1-2

0bama knew of it on or before March 24, 2009.

http://patdollard.com/2011/07/obama-orders-launched-fast-and-furious/


31 posted on 07/08/2011 7:21:24 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: unkus

Any compromise between good and evil favors evil. Somebody said something like this prior to me but I don’t remember who.


32 posted on 07/08/2011 8:20:56 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I think you misunderstood me. ...but it’s not difficult for most to see this once thriving “Christian” nation is not the ‘Christian ‘nation it once was..though for now it still bares the name..it’s peoples behavior and those who have tolerated that behavior hardly reflect that now.

IMO...this nation has been THE Christian nation overall...but as with everything else great about our nation, which is being torn down,....so too is that of the Christian faith....it’s replacement is something else altogether and counterfeit in every way.


33 posted on 07/08/2011 9:16:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: mapmaker77

Right you are, and worse still is the continuing fact that the Republicans operate on the “it’s my turn” philosophy of party leadership. This proclivity has brought us Bob “I never saw a tax I didn’t support” Dole, John, “I was tortured too severely and am stupid” McLamebrain, and last, but by no means least, John “cry me a river” Boner. And you can certainly make the case that “W” fits this mold as well. Here we hand them the means to start corrective action, and what do the “old line @$$holes do, they elect Boner and that mealy-mouthed Cantor, both of whom are abetted by the womanizer McCarthy. I guess it just means that the housecleaning still needs attention starting with the Senate’s over age Bobsy twins, Hatch and Lugar. And we need to see who supported Boner and start them toward the door. The worst of it is that we really don’t have the time to RIF these quisling bastards.


34 posted on 07/08/2011 9:16:55 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: yarddog
it is getting not one 1/000th of the attention in the mainstream media.

Neither did Watergate when it first began unraveling....give it time...and someone in the press who dares to leave the pack.

35 posted on 07/08/2011 9:19:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: Iam1ru1-2

they say it was about tracking guns, but the other theory is that at some point later in time, the administration would point to some “study” that proved most weapons used by drug kingpins came from bad american gunowners right?

At that point in time - what was going to stop these gunshop owners from telling everyone this was part of a government operation?

I don’t get how they thought they’d pull it off in the end?


36 posted on 07/08/2011 9:32:54 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Two Kids' Dad

what does the video show? for those of us with dialup


37 posted on 07/08/2011 9:41:44 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

It’s a C-SPAN video of an administration guy basically laying it out there that 0bama ordered Project Gunrunner and it was something new and outside-the-box and yadda yadda.

Of course, this was before things went sideways so he was sounding all proud of their new efforts to go after the bad guys. Now we find out that they royally screwed the pooch and people died as a result and 0bama and Holder are all “I had no idea. It wasn’t my idea. Never heard of anything of that nature.”

Lying criminal jackasses!


38 posted on 07/08/2011 10:42:20 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: Iam1ru1-2

A special prosecutor with subpoena power is essential at this point or NOTHING will come of all this.
The BIG cover up is well under way.


39 posted on 07/09/2011 4:38:59 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: unkus

Obama may get his 2nd term, but if he hangs around too long, he may very well get himself impeached, just like Clinton. I think that’s a real risk if gets reelected. My guess is there’s probably lots of dirt on him


40 posted on 07/09/2011 8:33:07 AM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

My guess is there’s probably lots of dirt on him


I blame George Bush for not exposing this evil man for what he truly is, back in 2007-2008. In that sense, Bush betrayed his Oath. 0bama is an enemy of the United States and nothing was done to prevent him from from attaining office as it should have been.


41 posted on 07/09/2011 8:48:14 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Bumperoonie


42 posted on 07/09/2011 8:52:24 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Two Kids' Dad
0bama ordered Project Gunrunner

I caught that, too..."Gunrunner.

Not "Gunwalker", Not "Fast and Furious", but GunRUNNER.

Freudian slip?

43 posted on 07/09/2011 9:28:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
"Gunwalker" & "Fast and Furious" were two different projects.

There is word coming out now that the AFT & FBI walked guns to Guatemala out of the Tampa office.

Frankly, who know how many of these criminal operations they were running.

The entire ATF is a criminal organization and it looks like most of the FBI is suspect.
44 posted on 07/09/2011 9:33:28 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Frankly, who know how many of these criminal operations they were running.

True, but I found it interesting that At the link in this post, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2745997/posts?page=21#21 David Ogden referred to the operation as "Gunrunner". You'd think he'd get the name right, so either there is another one, or he slipped, knowing full well the purpose of it. He also stated the 10 million was going to the ATF for the op and that Obama ordered it.

The clip is from C-SPAN2, check it out.

45 posted on 07/09/2011 9:54:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Unfortunately, Sen. Grassley said yesterday he would not call for a special prosecutor.

So... there is nothing that can be done.
46 posted on 07/09/2011 10:31:55 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear
It isn't over yet, by a longshot--unless, of course, people simply resign themselves to living under the despotic heel of this corruption in the DOJ. This was planned, from the top, funded by stimulus money, and designed to pump up the numbers of firearms traced back to US gun shops from crime scenes in Mexico, either to impose more domestic gun control, or push the UN Small Arms Treaty on the US.

There is a pile of high crimes there, to which others will be added.

For them to 'get away with it' all that need happen is for America to get tied up feeling righteous outrage at the death of one toddler, and ignore the murders of hundreds with weapons our government allowed to end up in the hands of the murderers, paid for by our money, for the purpose of taking our rights.

47 posted on 07/09/2011 6:07:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear; Smokin' Joe

If you listen to DAG David Ogden’s description of the new elements they are introducing to Gunrunner they exactly match the things that have been established to be elements of Fast and Furious. The $10 million in Recovery Funds, the additional DEA agents, the additional ATF agents and so on. They hadn’t come up with a new name yet but those things are all exact figures of money and agents known to be the facets of Fast and Furious.


48 posted on 07/10/2011 12:18:34 AM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: TigersEye

GunRUNNER was started under bush. Those weapons were tracked witth GPS devices. obama and company changed the rules and Fast and Furious became an op where agents were specifically ordered to back off and NOT track the weapons. GunWALKER is the name Codrea and Vanderboegh gave to the project.


49 posted on 07/10/2011 2:26:14 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Iam1ru1-2; All

Simply stated several Federal Law enforcement agencies have been engaged in aiding & abetting the arming of organized criminal entrprises/cartels/mafias.

These assorted govt. agencies had multiple meetings, e-mails , briefings discussing & coordinating the efforts to get guns across the border and to stifle dissent from govt. LEO’s.

Only a village idiot can believe that all these govt. agencies all decided to all violate laws regarding aiding organized crime all at the same time & to coordinate their efforts all without orders & approval from their superiors.


50 posted on 07/10/2011 4:01:37 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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