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Chicago-To-Germany Flight Diverted Because Of Unruly Passenger
CBS Chicaago ^ | Jul 8, 2011

Posted on 07/09/2011 7:39:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Chicago-To-Germany Flight Diverted Because Of Unruly Passenger

July 8, 2011 6:05 PM

Federal agents investigate after a disruption on an international flight from Chicago to Germany that was diverted to Cleveland. (Photo provide by a passenger)

Federal agents investigate after a disruption on an international flight from Chicago to Germany that was diverted to Cleveland.

CHICAGO (WBBM) – Some Chicagoans have quite a story to tell about a flight from O’Hare to Frankfort, Germany that was diverted Friday to Cleveland when a passenger was found hiding in the bathroom and went ballistic when he was confronted.

Joe Shulfer of Woodstock had his noise-cancelling headphones on and was sitting by himself on United Airlines Flight 944.

“The flight attendant just ran up to me and literally grabbed me by the shirt and said, ‘You need to come with me now,’” the passenger told Newsradio 780.

They came upon three men wrestling with another passenger who, Shulfer learned, had been in the restroom for 20 or 30 minutes and wouldn’t come out.

They handcuffed the suspicious passenger and tied up his feet, but he started spitting and swearing, Shulfer says.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 20110708; airliner; airlinesecurity; akron; bathroom; buckeyejihad; chicago; flight; flight944; flt944; frankfort; frankfurt; germany; mustbeamish; noname; ohare; ohio; passenger; restroom; riyadh; saudiarabian; studentvisa; uaflt944; unruly; unrulypassenger
Gee let's see:

Flight from U.S. to Frankfurt, Germany......

Could the unidentified "unruly passenger" be an Islamist?

Just saying.

Oh, never mind. Just thinking politically incorrectly again. Sarc.....

Germany says Islamic terrorism still a threat

By DAVID RISING, Associated Press – Jul 1, 2011

BERLIN (AP) — Germany's top security official said Friday that the terrorist threat to the country hasn't decreased and the number of radicals continues to grow, even with the death of Osama bin Laden.


1 posted on 07/09/2011 7:39:43 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

chicago sux.

the way my wife and i were treated by united’s in competent unions

means we will never route through that dump again.


2 posted on 07/09/2011 7:47:12 AM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: KeyLargo

So they had him bound and there were at least 3 of them. It should have been fairly easy at that point to educate the perp that spitting at them was a really bad idea.


3 posted on 07/09/2011 7:47:29 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: KeyLargo
Shulfer says he heard from United that the man had a boarding pass but wasn’t on the passenger list.

Gee, this is the second time that has happen in less than a month. Oh well, its just an oversight. People do make mistake.

4 posted on 07/09/2011 7:48:39 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: KeyLargo

A CBS reporter was informed by a passenger on board the United flight that the “unruly passenger” “spoke in a heavy foreign accent.”


5 posted on 07/09/2011 7:48:47 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

He had a boarding pass but was not on the passenger list? How did he get on the plane???
Oh and he swallowed the duct tape? Was he on drugs? No demographics provided, unexpectedly.


6 posted on 07/09/2011 7:49:54 AM PDT by Pat4ever (NO MORE!)
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To: KeyLargo
I like the opening line of this story:

Some Chicagoans have quite a story to tell about a flight from O’Hare to Frankfort, Germany that was diverted Friday to Cleveland when a passenger was found hiding in the bathroom and went ballistic when he was confronted.

It's like one of those human-interest stories they'd put at the end of the evening news sometimes back when Walter Cronkite was on.

"A Witchita family got quite a surprise earlier today when they came home from vacation to find that a pair of kangaroos had made themselves at home in their carport."

Ha ha, oh boy, those whacky kangaroos. Just another slice of life in America today.

7 posted on 07/09/2011 7:51:59 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: KeyLargo
The flight was on the way to Germany, therefore, the man was a German. That explains the accent.
8 posted on 07/09/2011 7:51:59 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: KeyLargo
Lovely, now we know that the Amish have insiders inside United or German airport staff who are handing out boarding passes to fellow Amish.

Please note how the Big Dyke Janet got this story killed !
State controlled media does not like stories about unruly Amish !

9 posted on 07/09/2011 7:52:13 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Steely Tom

LOL!


10 posted on 07/09/2011 7:54:33 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: KeyLargo

Will United leave his luggage with the TSA?


11 posted on 07/09/2011 7:55:27 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: KeyLargo

Man, they got the Obama’s Rap and Hip Hop Nation chat down to its essence...substitute any name United States is the Cancer, etc
Jesus is the Cancer....
If the glove don’t fit....


12 posted on 07/09/2011 7:55:56 AM PDT by BilLies (Whose your daddy: Frank Marshall Davis?)
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To: Pat4ever

So, click on CBS link, get no relevant information, let CBS load their c*** on your computer, waste more time trying to figure out what actually happened.... read posts until someone chimes in that knows what happened.... forget it, I think I’ll go to the coffee shop.


13 posted on 07/09/2011 7:56:47 AM PDT by ngat
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To: KeyLargo

The only thing that spits like that is a camel......or his lover.


14 posted on 07/09/2011 7:57:14 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Steely Tom
Great insight.
The Obama state media is now spinning these scary stories as cute little stories and no need to worry .
The Obama state media do not want to wake up the sheep by stating the Terrorist cells are now buried inside United and O'Hara airport, sweet dreams viewers
15 posted on 07/09/2011 7:59:49 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Slump Tester

Ah, and where was the TSA? Manhandling another 90 year old lady??? Of maybe a little kid? Totally useless government agency.


16 posted on 07/09/2011 7:59:53 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: MsLady
Ah, and where was the TSA? Manhandling another 90 year old lady??? Of maybe a little kid? Totally useless government agency.

Not totally useless. They suck upwards of $10 million a day out of the taxpayers, and since they're unionized, a few percent of that goes straight into Democrat campaign coffers.

17 posted on 07/09/2011 8:03:54 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Slump Tester
My thoughts exactly - why did they just let him keep spitting?

Its harder to spit through a swollen face.

18 posted on 07/09/2011 8:03:54 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Realman30

The story doesn’t mention whether he is native German or Muzzie German. Since the Leftists have scrubbed that info I’m willing to be he is a Muzzie.

This Muzzie was spending an inordinate amount of time in the lav which is a common theme with other jihadis doing dry runs on other flights in the USA.

They shouldn’t have tied him up, but instead beat him black and blue until he hurt so bad he couldn’t fight any more.

Americans are showing their resolve to stop these idiots which might be an indication of the re-masculinization of American men.


19 posted on 07/09/2011 8:05:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ncalburt
The Obama state media do not want to wake up the sheep by stating the Terrorist cells are now buried inside United and O'Hara airport, sweet dreams viewers

And that's the way it is.

20 posted on 07/09/2011 8:06:09 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Steely Tom

Welp, I guess that’s one way to funnel money to the democrats. ALL federal and state unions should be ended period.


21 posted on 07/09/2011 8:06:53 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: KeyLargo

At least he didn’t take a dump on the beverage cart.


22 posted on 07/09/2011 8:09:23 AM PDT by soupbone1
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To: Steely Tom
It's like one of those human-interest stories they'd put at the end of the evening news sometimes back when Walter Cronkite was on.

In newsroom jargon that story was called 'the kicker'.

23 posted on 07/09/2011 8:10:04 AM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: KeyLargo; Charles Henrickson; martin_fierro

Ich bin ein Badloiterer


24 posted on 07/09/2011 8:10:43 AM PDT by mikrofon (Careful, they spit!)
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To: Steely Tom

Excellent observation!


25 posted on 07/09/2011 8:16:16 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: KeyLargo

A few notes on style.

1) In closed circumstances like that, it is generally much better to use hammer fists than knuckle punches. Heel palms to facial areas. Sharp elbow smashes to the rib cage are just peachy. Broken collar bones are a must, and only take 15 lbs of force. Broken collar bones = no arms.

2) Don’t stop until it is very, very obvious that your efforts are no longer necessary. A violent and threatening individual should have a minimum of six months hospital recuperation before imprisonment is even an option.

3) Don’t ever assume they are working alone. Keep an eye out for confederates. Since you are not a LEO, racial profiling is a must, and often works. If “plan ‘b’” does anything suspicious at all, be on him “like a duck on a June bug”. This doesn’t mean attack him, but real sure that if he pulls something he will quickly be examining the carpet. FYI, these mugs often travel in groups of 4-6, so it could turn into a real brawl.

And “More than 1 means ‘life or death’.”


26 posted on 07/09/2011 8:19:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: IncPen
In newsroom jargon that story was called 'the kicker'.

Yeah. I have Dan Rather's copy of The CBSNews Manual of Practice and Style right here. It defines "kicker" or "kick piece" as follows:

Kicker: a light piece, usually with a humor angle, used to fill out the final seconds of a program if we've covered everything that's come off the DNC fax line and the big advocacy groups have taken the day off.

27 posted on 07/09/2011 8:24:00 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: KeyLargo
The flight attendant just ran up to me and literally grabbed me by the shirt and said, ‘You need to come with me now,’” the passenger told Newsradio 780.

===========================

Why didn't the flight attendant grab a couple of female passengers to help secure the unruly subject? After all, a woman can do anything a man can do! . . Right?

28 posted on 07/09/2011 8:26:02 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Some observations about this deal...the guy was in the toilet for 30 minutes? I’m guessing he was enjoying some of his drugs or the drugs he had digested were messing him up. He wasn’t on the passenger list? The only way to make that happen would be to have a airline representative arrange your entry without really taking the “pass” (which I’ve stood over the past five years and seen this done twice).


29 posted on 07/09/2011 8:40:29 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Steely Tom

in the news biz, that’s called a “bright.”


30 posted on 07/09/2011 8:47:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Last Dakotan

or a plastic bag


31 posted on 07/09/2011 8:56:07 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: Realman30

Napolitano: “The system [security] is working as it should.”


32 posted on 07/09/2011 9:25:56 AM PDT by dools0007world (uestion)
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To: KeyLargo; mikrofon; Charles Henrickson

Ich bin ein No-Namer.

33 posted on 07/09/2011 9:34:27 AM PDT by martin_fierro (I'm be a Rhine nonce)
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To: mikrofon

LOL!


34 posted on 07/09/2011 9:42:21 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: KeyLargo

He almost has to be an Arab. Spitting is a big insult there. I guess it is here too but almost no one resorts to spitting on others in a confrontation.

I think the solution is to just install air locks on all passenger planes to allow for ejection of Islamists without losing cabin pressure.


35 posted on 07/09/2011 9:52:31 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: KeyLargo
“spoke in a heavy foreign accent.”

German?

36 posted on 07/09/2011 9:58:27 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I would add: don't use your fists if you have something better.

A heavy object to the back of the head can stop a struggle.

Certain ballpoint pens have nice strong metal tips -- sticking one up against his eyeball will stop his desire to struggle real fast. Alternately, a sharp ballpoint pen jammed forcefully into the throat or into a kidney will end things permanently (only if there's a general melee and there's more than one bad guy, indicating a life-or-death situation).

A belt with a good buckle makes a decent weapon for flailing or as a garotte.

Etc.

Think ahead of time what you could and would use as a weapon against a terrorist attempt.

37 posted on 07/09/2011 10:17:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In the land of the pig, the butcher is king.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Fatima Zahra Mosque, Frankfurt:

Islam in Germany

Written by David Motadel

Demographics

Germany has the largest Muslim population in Western Europe after France. Approximately 3.0 to 3.5 million Muslims live in Germany, and 80% of them do not have German citizenship; 608,000 are German citizens.1 100,000 of them are German converts to Islam.2 Recent statistics show a continuing increase in their numbers.3

38 posted on 07/09/2011 10:59:02 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: PapaBear3625

The trouble is that the TSA is very weapon oriented (despite the truism that most anything can be used as a weapon), and want passengers to be as helpless as possible in a confrontation with a terrorist, insane person, or drunk/drugged up person.

Plus, there are some strong social stigmas. For example, I knew an individual who had a positive gift for popping out eyeballs. He said that absolutely nothing stops a fight faster, and most of the time, the eyeballs can just be popped back in and still work. Unfortunately, he admitted that seeing it happen is too much for many people, who then overreact.

Finally, as a technical point, it is often better to *not* use a weapon, in that it tends make the user too focused on it, when they could do better without. I’ve seen this before, with skilled karate people reduced to boxers, solely because they were wearing boxing gloves, something they were not used to. “Don’t punch them, you fool, kick them!”

One of the best weapons in short range conflict is just a cup of liquid: water, coffee, soda, whatever. Splashed in their face it is as long as seconds of free time in which to aggress—a huge interval of advantage.


39 posted on 07/09/2011 12:14:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good info posted. Thanks

Are you a self-defense instructor or similar?


40 posted on 07/09/2011 1:29:42 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Lots of instruction from a very tough street dojo, back when it mattered. Fortunately lots of learning and theory and practice, and a lot less real “hands on”, which others engaged in. Very pragmatic place.


41 posted on 07/09/2011 1:46:26 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Hot Tabasco

Nein.


42 posted on 07/09/2011 1:52:50 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Slump Tester

These men, mere amatures, managed to cuff him and tie up his legs without a glock, taser or baton. Imagine that.

Maybe they could give some classes for some of our meat head police officers who don’t know how to make an arrest without a heavy dose of brutality.


43 posted on 07/09/2011 3:11:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

44 posted on 07/10/2011 12:33:19 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ken21
Well, well. Three days and still no identification of who the 'unruly passenger' is. The Obama media group is doing their job of suppressing any information on this perp.
45 posted on 07/11/2011 6:39:22 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Realman30

Realman30 wrote”The flight was on the way to Germany, therefore, the man was a German. That explains the accent.”

Really? How did you KNOW that he was a German?

“CLEVELAND — A Cleveland Municipal Court judge set a $1 million bond this morning for the Saudi Arabian man who caused a United flight from Chicago to Frankfurt to land unscheduled July 8 at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.

The FBI and Cleveland Police Chief Michael McGrath had arrested Saleh Ali S. Alramakh, aka Saleh Ali S. Alramaleh, 21, of Riyadh Saudi Arabia, on Monday.”

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/197374/3/Passenger-on-flight-diverted-to-Cleveland-held-on-1M


46 posted on 07/12/2011 2:37:12 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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