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Posted on 07/09/2011 7:39:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
Chicago-To-Germany Flight Diverted Because Of Unruly Passenger
July 8, 2011 6:05 PM
Federal agents investigate after a disruption on an international flight from Chicago to Germany that was diverted to Cleveland. (Photo provide by a passenger)
Federal agents investigate after a disruption on an international flight from Chicago to Germany that was diverted to Cleveland.
CHICAGO (WBBM) Some Chicagoans have quite a story to tell about a flight from OHare to Frankfort, Germany that was diverted Friday to Cleveland when a passenger was found hiding in the bathroom and went ballistic when he was confronted.
Joe Shulfer of Woodstock had his noise-cancelling headphones on and was sitting by himself on United Airlines Flight 944.
The flight attendant just ran up to me and literally grabbed me by the shirt and said, You need to come with me now, the passenger told Newsradio 780.
They came upon three men wrestling with another passenger who, Shulfer learned, had been in the restroom for 20 or 30 minutes and wouldnt come out.
They handcuffed the suspicious passenger and tied up his feet, but he started spitting and swearing, Shulfer says.
(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.cbslocal.com ...
Flight from U.S. to Frankfurt, Germany......
Could the unidentified "unruly passenger" be an Islamist?
Oh, never mind. Just thinking politically incorrectly again. Sarc.....
Germany says Islamic terrorism still a threat
By DAVID RISING, Associated Press Jul 1, 2011
BERLIN (AP) Germany's top security official said Friday that the terrorist threat to the country hasn't decreased and the number of radicals continues to grow, even with the death of Osama bin Laden.
the way my wife and i were treated by united’s in competent unions
means we will never route through that dump again.
So they had him bound and there were at least 3 of them. It should have been fairly easy at that point to educate the perp that spitting at them was a really bad idea.
Gee, this is the second time that has happen in less than a month. Oh well, its just an oversight. People do make mistake.
A CBS reporter was informed by a passenger on board the United flight that the “unruly passenger” “spoke in a heavy foreign accent.”
He had a boarding pass but was not on the passenger list? How did he get on the plane???
Oh and he swallowed the duct tape? Was he on drugs? No demographics provided, unexpectedly.
Some Chicagoans have quite a story to tell about a flight from OHare to Frankfort, Germany that was diverted Friday to Cleveland when a passenger was found hiding in the bathroom and went ballistic when he was confronted.
It's like one of those human-interest stories they'd put at the end of the evening news sometimes back when Walter Cronkite was on.
"A Witchita family got quite a surprise earlier today when they came home from vacation to find that a pair of kangaroos had made themselves at home in their carport."
Ha ha, oh boy, those whacky kangaroos. Just another slice of life in America today.
Please note how the Big Dyke Janet got this story killed !
State controlled media does not like stories about unruly Amish !
Will United leave his luggage with the TSA?
Man, they got the Obama’s Rap and Hip Hop Nation chat down to its essence...substitute any name United States is the Cancer, etc
Jesus is the Cancer....
If the glove don’t fit....
So, click on CBS link, get no relevant information, let CBS load their c*** on your computer, waste more time trying to figure out what actually happened.... read posts until someone chimes in that knows what happened.... forget it, I think I’ll go to the coffee shop.
The only thing that spits like that is a camel......or his lover.
Ah, and where was the TSA? Manhandling another 90 year old lady??? Of maybe a little kid? Totally useless government agency.
Not totally useless. They suck upwards of $10 million a day out of the taxpayers, and since they're unionized, a few percent of that goes straight into Democrat campaign coffers.
Its harder to spit through a swollen face.
The story doesn’t mention whether he is native German or Muzzie German. Since the Leftists have scrubbed that info I’m willing to be he is a Muzzie.
This Muzzie was spending an inordinate amount of time in the lav which is a common theme with other jihadis doing dry runs on other flights in the USA.
They shouldn’t have tied him up, but instead beat him black and blue until he hurt so bad he couldn’t fight any more.
Americans are showing their resolve to stop these idiots which might be an indication of the re-masculinization of American men.
And that's the way it is.
Welp, I guess that’s one way to funnel money to the democrats. ALL federal and state unions should be ended period.
At least he didn’t take a dump on the beverage cart.
In newsroom jargon that story was called 'the kicker'.
Ich bin ein Badloiterer
A few notes on style.
1) In closed circumstances like that, it is generally much better to use hammer fists than knuckle punches. Heel palms to facial areas. Sharp elbow smashes to the rib cage are just peachy. Broken collar bones are a must, and only take 15 lbs of force. Broken collar bones = no arms.
2) Don’t stop until it is very, very obvious that your efforts are no longer necessary. A violent and threatening individual should have a minimum of six months hospital recuperation before imprisonment is even an option.
3) Don’t ever assume they are working alone. Keep an eye out for confederates. Since you are not a LEO, racial profiling is a must, and often works. If “plan ‘b’” does anything suspicious at all, be on him “like a duck on a June bug”. This doesn’t mean attack him, but real sure that if he pulls something he will quickly be examining the carpet. FYI, these mugs often travel in groups of 4-6, so it could turn into a real brawl.
And “More than 1 means ‘life or death’.”
Yeah. I have Dan Rather's copy of The CBSNews Manual of Practice and Style right here. It defines "kicker" or "kick piece" as follows:
Kicker: a light piece, usually with a humor angle, used to fill out the final seconds of a program if we've covered everything that's come off the DNC fax line and the big advocacy groups have taken the day off.
Why didn't the flight attendant grab a couple of female passengers to help secure the unruly subject? After all, a woman can do anything a man can do! . . Right?
Some observations about this deal...the guy was in the toilet for 30 minutes? I’m guessing he was enjoying some of his drugs or the drugs he had digested were messing him up. He wasn’t on the passenger list? The only way to make that happen would be to have a airline representative arrange your entry without really taking the “pass” (which I’ve stood over the past five years and seen this done twice).
in the news biz, that’s called a “bright.”
or a plastic bag
Napolitano: “The system [security] is working as it should.”
Ich bin ein No-Namer.
He almost has to be an Arab. Spitting is a big insult there. I guess it is here too but almost no one resorts to spitting on others in a confrontation.
I think the solution is to just install air locks on all passenger planes to allow for ejection of Islamists without losing cabin pressure.
A heavy object to the back of the head can stop a struggle.
Certain ballpoint pens have nice strong metal tips -- sticking one up against his eyeball will stop his desire to struggle real fast. Alternately, a sharp ballpoint pen jammed forcefully into the throat or into a kidney will end things permanently (only if there's a general melee and there's more than one bad guy, indicating a life-or-death situation).
A belt with a good buckle makes a decent weapon for flailing or as a garotte.
Think ahead of time what you could and would use as a weapon against a terrorist attempt.
Fatima Zahra Mosque, Frankfurt:
Islam in Germany
Written by David Motadel
Germany has the largest Muslim population in Western Europe after France. Approximately 3.0 to 3.5 million Muslims live in Germany, and 80% of them do not have German citizenship; 608,000 are German citizens.1 100,000 of them are German converts to Islam.2 Recent statistics show a continuing increase in their numbers.3
The trouble is that the TSA is very weapon oriented (despite the truism that most anything can be used as a weapon), and want passengers to be as helpless as possible in a confrontation with a terrorist, insane person, or drunk/drugged up person.
Plus, there are some strong social stigmas. For example, I knew an individual who had a positive gift for popping out eyeballs. He said that absolutely nothing stops a fight faster, and most of the time, the eyeballs can just be popped back in and still work. Unfortunately, he admitted that seeing it happen is too much for many people, who then overreact.
Finally, as a technical point, it is often better to *not* use a weapon, in that it tends make the user too focused on it, when they could do better without. I’ve seen this before, with skilled karate people reduced to boxers, solely because they were wearing boxing gloves, something they were not used to. “Don’t punch them, you fool, kick them!”
One of the best weapons in short range conflict is just a cup of liquid: water, coffee, soda, whatever. Splashed in their face it is as long as seconds of free time in which to aggress—a huge interval of advantage.
Good info posted. Thanks
Are you a self-defense instructor or similar?
Lots of instruction from a very tough street dojo, back when it mattered. Fortunately lots of learning and theory and practice, and a lot less real “hands on”, which others engaged in. Very pragmatic place.
These men, mere amatures, managed to cuff him and tie up his legs without a glock, taser or baton. Imagine that.
Maybe they could give some classes for some of our meat head police officers who don’t know how to make an arrest without a heavy dose of brutality.
Realman30 wrote”The flight was on the way to Germany, therefore, the man was a German. That explains the accent.”
Really? How did you KNOW that he was a German?
“CLEVELAND — A Cleveland Municipal Court judge set a $1 million bond this morning for the Saudi Arabian man who caused a United flight from Chicago to Frankfurt to land unscheduled July 8 at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.
The FBI and Cleveland Police Chief Michael McGrath had arrested Saleh Ali S. Alramakh, aka Saleh Ali S. Alramaleh, 21, of Riyadh Saudi Arabia, on Monday.”
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