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Farm-State Senators Agree to End Ethanol Tax Breaks in July
SFGate ^ | 7-7-11 | Alan Bjerga, Jodi Schneider, Ann Hughey

Posted on 07/09/2011 7:47:47 AM PDT by bigbob

Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, said she has reached an agreement with two farm-state lawmakers to end ethanol subsidies July 31.

Feinstein's agreement with Senators Amy Klobuchar, a Minnesota Democrat, and John Thune, a South Dakota Republican, would end a 45-cent-a-gallon ethanol blender tax credit and a 54-cent-a-gallon tariff on ethanol imports that are scheduled to expire Dec. 31. The lawmakers said the proposal, announced today, would reduce the federal budget deficit by $1.33 billion.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: biofuelcredit; ethanol; ethanolsubsidy; subsidy
Will they actually do it? And will the House agree?
1 posted on 07/09/2011 7:47:53 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Are they going to remove the requirement that all gasoline sold contain ethanol?


2 posted on 07/09/2011 7:50:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

>> Are they going to remove the requirement that all gasoline sold contain ethanol?

Of course the malevolent house of jokers won’t do that! It would make *sense*.


3 posted on 07/09/2011 7:52:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: driftdiver

NO! So expect the price at the pump to jump.


4 posted on 07/09/2011 7:53:24 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: bigbob

What about Iowa? They get Ethanol Tax Breaks big-time.


5 posted on 07/09/2011 7:55:52 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: bigbob

While they’re at it, they should end the practice of pricing gasoline at X point 9 cents. For example, make it $3.50 rather than $3.499 per gallon.


6 posted on 07/09/2011 7:57:19 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: driftdiver
Are they going to remove the requirement that all gasoline sold contain ethanol?
It's my understanding that all gas stations in Louisiana do not have to sell gasoline cotaining ethanol. At this time, ethanol in gasoline is NOT mandatory in The Pelican State.
7 posted on 07/09/2011 8:02:18 AM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: Roccus
NO! So expect the price at the pump to jump.

YEP! And, the crying will begin!! It hurts the poor the most, etc., etc.!

When one stops feeding a stray dog, expect problems!

8 posted on 07/09/2011 8:04:07 AM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: no dems

Agree - I’d like to hear what Chuck Grassley has to say. Right now 24% of US corn is used to make ethanol and we are in pretty much full production mode. If the demand drops because ethanol is no longer competitive, what will the impact on farmers and corn prices be? Today the farmer gets paid about 4 cents for the corn that goes into a box of corn flakes, so anyone who tries to tay that corn ethanol has driven up food prices is practicing Obamanomics...

Another thing - there’s interest in using corn oil to make biodeisel - an industry that is floundering because cheap money allowed too many plants to be constructed without a viable feedstock. Last year Congress finally did extend the $1 per gallon biodiesel blending credit, so is this just a shell game, where they’re giving up a 45 cent credit for making ethanol in favor of a $1 credit for using the same feedstock to make biodiesel?


9 posted on 07/09/2011 8:09:01 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

If they’re willing to do it, they know it will give them an avenue to spend the taxes used for the subsidies elsewhere for vote buying and also manage to further kick the taxpayers in the wallet.


10 posted on 07/09/2011 8:19:23 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: bigbob

They will! This has been in the works for some time, and didn’t pass in Jan, to give the companies time to prepare. They were previously promised the subsidy would not die until Jul. So the house felt bound to keep their promise.


11 posted on 07/09/2011 8:25:34 AM PDT by wita
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To: no dems

“It’s my understanding that all gas stations in Louisiana do not have to sell gasoline containing ethanol. At this time, ethanol in gasoline is NOT mandatory in The Pelican State.”

I can’t tell you whether this is federal or state law, but a station owner in Florida told me that she was only allowed to sell alcohol free fuel to people driving cars built before 1988. If she sold to anybody else she’d be liable for a huge fine. She can sell alcohol free fuel if you put it in gas cans rather than your car. She keeps locks on the pumps with alcohol free gas. She also said that she must buy it from either Jacksonville or Mobile. A truck starts out from either place and fills tanks in roughly one station per county with alcohol free. You can’t mix alcohol free tanks/trucks with non-alcohol gas as the alcohol cleans the tanks and floats too much dirt and grime free and that clogs gas filters and causes cars to stall or run poorly. Alcohol also destroys natural rubber, which is why you can buy it for pre-’88 cars.
To get alcohol free gas will require probably both federal and state laws to change. Once they’ve changed the alcohol free marketplace will vanish as nobody who knows anything about what alcohol does to mileage or the car, tanks, filters and storage life gas wants to run alcohol containing gas.


12 posted on 07/09/2011 8:47:19 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: bigbob

All subsidies should be immediately canceled from ethanol, to soy oils, to limiting wheat production. People that have never farmed have gotten rich for generations off of the backs of the taxpayers of this country. If a product cannot be brought to market and produce a profit for its maker or grower, then let them find another product that will.


13 posted on 07/09/2011 8:52:03 AM PDT by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: bigbob

That thud you heard was Thune’s career auguring in.


14 posted on 07/09/2011 9:02:58 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
That thud you heard was Thune’s career auguring in.

The word is "augering." Grade-school mistake ...

15 posted on 07/09/2011 9:06:12 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: bigbob

The EPA has approved or is about to approve a 15% ethanol blend. Expect your late model mileage to vary.

Downward.

Sheer madness.


16 posted on 07/09/2011 9:10:54 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Gen.Blather; no dems
Here is the link to the Pure Gas website where you can find alcohol free gas. It is legal in all states for cars, boats, airplanes and engines that were designed for it.

State law covers this and the blends with the EPA rubber stamping. California is the worst and most inefficient in all areas.

Pure Gas .org

17 posted on 07/09/2011 9:11:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: bigbob

The corn market just crashed.


18 posted on 07/09/2011 9:31:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Roccus
NO! So expect the price at the pump to jump.

Yes, gas may go up temporarily, but wheat, corn, maisie, and many other crops currently screwed up by ethanol price fixing err, I mean subsidy will level out and fall

Did you ever think you would pay $3.00 for a loaf of decent bread ?

19 posted on 07/09/2011 9:42:29 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Navy Patriot

I was told that recreation gas, the gas at marinas, is also alcohol free.


20 posted on 07/09/2011 9:50:52 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf
I was told that recreation gas, the gas at marinas, is also alcohol free.

Yes, usually it is, as the largest preponderance of boat and marine gasoline engines are designed for alcohol free gasoline, but always ask at the marina.

21 posted on 07/09/2011 10:00:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: driftdiver

You can buy non ethanol gas in Texas. We LOOK for the Shell station that says NO ETHANOL because we get more for our money. Ethanol is very inefficient. Makes me mad when we have to buy blended but I only get enough to go down the road for non blended if I can find it.


22 posted on 07/09/2011 10:15:52 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

Florida passed a law saying all gasoline to be used in cars is required to have ethanol. A very small number of stations sell non-ethanol for off road vehicles and boats. They are hard to find and the marine gas stations are generally on the water and hard to reach when driving a car.


23 posted on 07/09/2011 11:22:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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