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Frank Lindh: America's barbaric treatment of my son John Walker Lindh
The Guardian ^ | Sunday 10 July 2011 | Frank Lindh

Posted on 07/09/2011 9:29:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

John Walker Lindh following his capture by US troops in December 2001.

John Phillip Walker Lindh, my son, was raised a Roman Catholic, but converted to Islam when he was 16 years old. He has an older brother and a younger sister. John is scholarly and devout, devoted to his family, and blessed with a powerful intellect, a curious mind, and a wry sense of humour.

Labelled by the American government as "Detainee 001" in the "war on terror", John occupies a prison cell in Terre Haute, Indiana. He has been a prisoner of the American government since 1 December 2001, less than three months after the terror attacks of 9/11.

John is entirely innocent of any involvement in the terror attacks, or any allegiance to terrorism. That is not disputed by the American government. Indeed, all accusations of terrorism against John were dropped by the government in a plea bargain, which in turn was approved by the US district court in which the case was brought.

Despite its proud history as a stable constitutional democracy, the US has, for 10 years, been affected by post-traumatic shock, following the horrific events of 11 September 2001. I can find no other explanation for the barbaric mistreatment and continued detention of a gentle young man like John Lindh.

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1 posted on 07/09/2011 9:29:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Didn't his son bite a CIA employee to death?
2 posted on 07/09/2011 9:33:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Murdered CIA Agent Spann

I have always thought Lindh was complicit.


3 posted on 07/09/2011 9:35:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Dear Daddy of the Terrorist -

Your offspring was detained on an active battlefield. He was not in uniform. He was clearly there with the enemy.

What should have happened is that they should have shot him right there. Now, because you are an awful Father and failure as a human my tax dollars have to support this mope until someone can beat him to death in a prison shower.

In closing, quit crying. Your son is a worthless POS and it is all your fault.

Volunteer

4 posted on 07/09/2011 9:35:09 PM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I can find no other explanation for the barbaric mistreatment and continued detention of a gentle young man like John Lindh.

While I can't find any explanation for the gentle treatment of a barbaric young man like John Lindh.
5 posted on 07/09/2011 9:35:37 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: Steely Tom

Isn’t the guy a traitor, AND a moslem?

What bigger offense could there be?

He’s gonna be in prison a long time folks.... get over it.


6 posted on 07/09/2011 9:36:01 PM PDT by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: MinorityRepublican

>I can find no other explanation for the barbaric mistreatment and continued detention of a gentle young man like John Lindh.<

How about the death of a former CIA agent out to protect Americans from your POS son? Eff your traitor family.


7 posted on 07/09/2011 9:36:18 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FAK BARAK)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"...gentle young man like John Lindh"

It's as if this guy as never heard of his son's conduct at Qala-i-Jangi. He was among the most hard-core fighters who held out for days in the cellar under the armory.

8 posted on 07/09/2011 9:36:50 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: LyinLibs

Dear Traitor’s Dad,

Next time, raise an American.

Sincerely,

-Me-


9 posted on 07/09/2011 9:37:43 PM PDT by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: MinorityRepublican

He is now serving a 20-year prison sentence in connection with his participation in Afghanistan’s Taliban army. He was captured during the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi, a violent Taliban prison uprising where American CIA officer Johnny “Mike” Spann was killed.

Lindh received training at Al-Farouq, a training camp associated with Al-Qaeda and located in Afghanistan. There, he attended a lecture by Osama bin Laden before the September 11, 2001 attacks. Lindh had previously received training with Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, an internationally designated terrorist organization based in Pakistan.

Sounds like a real sweetheart.


10 posted on 07/09/2011 9:38:16 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: MinorityRepublican

And your son is a traitor and is lucky he hasn’t been executed for his crimes.


11 posted on 07/09/2011 9:40:19 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: MinorityRepublican

He was captured on the battlefield, an American fighting Americans, without a uniform, therefore a traitor. Any treatment of him short of a firing squad is a display of mercy. He isn’t dead. He wakes up each morning, gets to drink coffee and eat breakfast. Be thankful, Dad.


12 posted on 07/09/2011 9:42:04 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Frank,

No doubt, you have good reason to believe as you do. Just wait 100 or so years and you can take your son home, no problemo!


13 posted on 07/09/2011 9:42:04 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
To the western world, and to me as John's father after I learned where he had been, this was misplaced idealism.

I suppose the same could be said for Osama bin Laden.....

I don't buy the bullsh*t that little John Lindh was on some peaceful new-age voyage of self-discovery.

14 posted on 07/09/2011 9:46:16 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Should have smacked the hell out of him before he turned 16 to pally around with terrorists. Might have done some good.

Now its too late.


15 posted on 07/09/2011 9:46:19 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Volunteer
In Basic Training we were taught that to behind enemy lines out of uniform would classify you as a “spy and saboteur” under the Geneva Conventions, the penalty being death.
16 posted on 07/09/2011 9:47:13 PM PDT by logic101.net (Support OUR troops, NOT their's!)
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To: Volunteer
In Basic Training we were taught that to behind enemy lines out of uniform would classify you as a “spy and saboteur” under the Geneva Conventions, the penalty being death.
17 posted on 07/09/2011 9:47:46 PM PDT by logic101.net (Support OUR troops, NOT their's!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Rat Boy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoQeXZ4zXw4


18 posted on 07/09/2011 9:48:19 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: MinorityRepublican

The son he’s defending is on record stating that this man’s homosexuality is what drove him to Mohammedanism. Of course he’s going to be looking around to blame someone else for... anything.


19 posted on 07/09/2011 9:48:47 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: MinorityRepublican
He's a Moozlim SOB who didn't bat an eye at murdering Americans and supporting the mass murder of Americans. Sorry, mom, but your chance to help little Johnny is long gone. You thought being a Muzzie was just fine and you reap what you sow.
20 posted on 07/09/2011 9:51:12 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: MinorityRepublican

More accurate statement:

Despite its proud history as a stable constitutional democracy, the US has, for almost 3 years, been affected by post-traumatic shock, following the horrific events of 6 November, 2008.


21 posted on 07/09/2011 9:52:19 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: MinorityRepublican
20 yrs is better then life which I would have given this terrorist. His father is a kook to write this rubbish, he should just shut up & deal with his muslim loving terrorist son & quit whining IMHO.
22 posted on 07/09/2011 9:52:36 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ((You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.))
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"misplaced idealism"

Uh, no. Dad, he lied to you and flipped for Islamic conquest. When he was caught, after a brutal stand-off, he said he understood. They ALL do. As for splitting hairs on whether John was Taliban or AQ, he's very fortunate not to have been tortured. Where's the thanks?

23 posted on 07/09/2011 9:53:42 PM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Prison is the only thing keeping that traitor alive.


24 posted on 07/09/2011 9:54:37 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Shortly after Frank Lindh left his family to pursue his sodomite lifestyle, little Johnny flipped out and discovered Islam.

You did this, Frank. Live with it, scumbag.


25 posted on 07/09/2011 9:56:58 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Kirkwood

He’s thriving in prison. He’s going to be a big problem for this country when he’s released.


26 posted on 07/09/2011 9:58:52 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The kid was an impressionable sixteen year old, and they let him do whatever the sam hell he wanted.

I rest my case.

The fastest way to ruin a kid, is to never say no.


27 posted on 07/09/2011 9:59:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: Soothesayer9
Should have smacked the hell out of him before he turned 16 to pally around with terrorists

Frank was already long gone, enjoying his newfound gay lifestyle. Johnny found himself a new father-figure at the nearest mosque.

Frank would be best served calling as little attention to himself as possible. Most Americans have no clue that his father leaving the family for another man drove JWL to terrorism.

28 posted on 07/09/2011 10:04:10 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I remember when this wretch was first captured. The father thought that the son would be sent home and treated gently, as if the kid was a victim.

I think he deserved far worse that what has happened to him.
29 posted on 07/09/2011 10:04:36 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: MinorityRepublican

If it was up to me, he would be hanging by a rope.


30 posted on 07/09/2011 10:05:03 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: DoughtyOne

Frank is a fruitcake and divorced from his wife. The traitor son was raised in a single parent household. No wonder he was so F*cked up. Now if Frank, because he’s fruity, didn’t marry and procreate, we wouldn’t have John the traitor, would we?


31 posted on 07/09/2011 10:05:58 PM PDT by sfwarrior (Never Forget The Fallen Heroes)
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To: MinorityRepublican

PLEA AGREEMENT

    Paul J. McNulty, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, and Randy I. Bellows, David N. Kelley, and John S. Davis, Assistant United States Attorneys, and the defendant, John Lindh, and the defendant’s counsel, James J. Brosnahan, George C. Harris, Tony West, Raj Chatterjee, and William B. Cummings, pursuant to Rule 11(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, have entered into an agreement, the terms and conditions of which are as follows:

GENERAL PROVISIONS

1.    The defendant, John Lindh, pursuant to Rule 11(e)(1)(A), agrees to plead guilty to Count Nine of the Indictment and to a Criminal Information filed herewith.  Count Nine charges the defendant with supplying services to the Taliban, in violation of Title 50, United States Code, Section 1705(b),  Title 18, United States Code, Section 2, and Title 31, Code of Federal Regulations, Sections 545.204 and 545.206(a).  The Criminal Information charges the defendant with carrying an explosive during the commission of a felony which may be prosecuted in a court of the United States, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 844(h)(2).   The maximum penalty for the violation of Count Nine is ten years’ imprisonment; a fine of $250,000; three years of supervised release; and a $100 special assessment.  The penalty for the offense charged in the Criminal Information is ten years’ imprisonment, consecutive to any term of imprisonment imposed on Count Nine; a fine of $250,000; three years of supervised release; and a $100 special assessment.  The defendant is aware that any term of supervised release is in addition to any prison term the defendant may receive, and that a violation of a term of supervised release could result in the defendant’s being returned to prison for the full term of supervised release.  The parties agree that if two terms of supervised release are imposed in this case, the terms are to be served concurrently.  See 18 U.S.C. section 3624(e).

2.    The defendant agrees that pending sentencing in this matter he will not seek release from detention.

3.    Before sentencing in this case, the defendant agrees to pay a mandatory special assessment of one hundred dollars ($100.00) per count of conviction.  Restitution is not applicable in this case.

4.    At sentencing in this case, the Government will move to dismiss Counts 1 through 8, and Count 10.

http://tinyurl.com/3zpxmsh


32 posted on 07/09/2011 10:10:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MinorityRepublican

Your son should have been shot, you fruitcake.


33 posted on 07/09/2011 10:11:22 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Simple solution. Let Little Johhniecakes out.

Put Frank in.

For Life.

For being a bad father.


34 posted on 07/09/2011 10:13:06 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: sfwarrior

Yep, that’s one of my laugh lines about homosexual who state they were just born that way.

Okay, then if you were born that way and the equipment doesn’t work like that, why do you have three kids, two grand-kids, a spouse, seven ex-girlfriends, and Lamar in the closet?


35 posted on 07/09/2011 10:13:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: alecqss

John Lindh plead guilty to supplying services to the Taliban, he was sentenced to ten years’ imprisonment; a fine of $250,000; three years of supervised release

SHUT UP, your son signed the plea agreement!


36 posted on 07/09/2011 10:14:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: sfwarrior
Frank is a fruitcake and divorced from his wife. The traitor son was raised in a single parent household. No wonder he was so F*cked up.

Same with O.J. Simpson. I can only imagine how devastating it is to find out your father's a fag. As a 16 year old boy, my heart bleeds for the kid.

37 posted on 07/09/2011 10:19:30 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’ve never understood why we ever aknowledged that we had this POS. He should have been shot. (Right after all intel was waterboarded out of him.)


38 posted on 07/09/2011 10:22:38 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If I were him, I’d be ashamed that I raised something like that and actually refer to it as a ‘son’.


39 posted on 07/09/2011 10:25:11 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: sfwarrior

Dear Frank,
Your son is so dedicated to his faith you do realize it is his duty to stone you to death for your sexual orientation... you may want to keep that in mind. Irony you can choke on...


40 posted on 07/09/2011 10:31:42 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Truth about John Walker Lindh

By: Robert Young Pelton (b. July 25, 1955, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada), is an author, journalist and documentary filmmaker

John Walker Lindh aka John Walker aka Suleiman Ferris aka Abdul Hamid aka The American Taliban is a person that I will mostly likely to be associated for some time to come. I am sure on my obituary there will be a bombastic note that I was “the journalist who “discovered” Lindh after the battle at Qali Jangi” (the afghans have that dubious honor) Many have told me that Lindh’s story was a big deal back in the States. I will never know. I was in Afghanistan covering combat operations with in the ongoing war against the Taliban for CNN so I will never have the chance to the get the full impact of finding an American professing his love for the Taliban.

To me Lindh was just an unpleasant arrogant kid who preferred to stay with his murdering friends. He was, in fact, the second Irish-American Jihadi I have met and interviewed. The first one was a one-legged psychopath who had been trained in the same camps and had fought in Kashmir, Kosovo, Bosnia, Chechnya and Liberia gave me his opinion. When I called him to discuss Lindh’s hejira, Aqil Collins simply called Lindh “a pussy.”  When I returned from Afghanistan I was quite aware of the outrage he had caused. In a deliberate effort not to influence his pending case, I did only interviews in which I spoke positively about Lindh.

Privately I warned his lawyers to keep me off the witness stand because I would send their little Johnny to prison. Wisely, Lindh copped a plea and I was spared months of inconvenience. Some people wanted a trial to get to the bottom of Lindh’s nefarious activities, among them the grieving family of Mike Spann. Lindh’s plea bargain denied them and the country of that truth finding.

So it was left to me to set the record straight. My decades of travels with jihadis and terrorists, my time with both the Taliban leadership, the Northern Alliance (aka the United Front), Dostum’s forces — as well as my own time spent during and after talking to the players involved with Qali Jangi — lead me to believe that I am uniquely qualified to pass judgment on Lindh and to accurately describe who he was and what he was doing there.

Now that Lindh’s father has decided to wrongly blame me for his son’s misery and seek clemency under false pretenses, I feel its time to reveal the truth.

Quite simply, in my opinion, Lindh was a terrorist, a member of what we call al Qaeda, and a man who chose to stay with killers even though he was afforded numerous opportunities to separate himself from his murderous associates. Twenty years in jail may be a blessing compared to how many of his friends have been dealt with since.

http://www.honormikespann.org/pdfs/pelton_feb2006.pdf


41 posted on 07/09/2011 10:32:44 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MinorityRepublican

Excuse me while I wipe the tears away, for this poor,poor victim of circumstance.


42 posted on 07/09/2011 10:37:19 PM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Unless he has 24 security, he won’t be around for long once he’s released.


43 posted on 07/09/2011 10:37:28 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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According to other captives interviewed by Robert Young Pelton for CNN, Lindh was fully aware of the planned uprising, yet remained silent and did not cooperate with the Americans.. Lindh did not report his American citizenship to his captors, despite the fact that it might have provided him better treatment.

Lindh was noticed and interviewed by Pelton, who was working as an embedded journalist and stringer for CNN. Lindh initially gave his name as “Abd-al-Hamid” but later gave his birth name. Pelton brought a medic and food for Lindh and interviewed him about how he got there. Lindh stated that he was a member of al-Ansar, a group of Arabic-speaking fighters financed by Osama bin Laden. Lindh said that the prison uprising was sparked by some of the prisoner guards smuggling grenades into the basement, “This is against what we had agreed upon with the Northern Alliance, and this is against Islam. It is a major sin to break a contract, especially in military situations”.

A US Army Special Forces operative, fresh from 3 weeks of combat, then gave up his bed so that the wounded Lindh could sleep there.

Repeatedly Pelton asked Lindh if he wanted to call his parents or have Pelton do so, but Lindh declined. Pelton knew Lindh was receiving his first medical treatment since being shot in the leg and had been given morphine by a medic prior to Pelton’s interview; however, medically speaking, morphine in the doses given as analgesia for a gunshot wound would not be strong enough to produce the mental effects necessary to prevent him from understanding Pelton’s repeated questions as to whether or not he wanted to make contact with them.

http://tinyurl.com/3nzqmh4


44 posted on 07/09/2011 10:38:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MinorityRepublican

These folks, with their scrambled brains, are just hard to take seriously!


45 posted on 07/09/2011 10:47:44 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir

I’ll bet his son was a big hit on “man love” Thursday...


46 posted on 07/09/2011 10:53:56 PM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

My only regret is that Lindh did not survive Afghanistan to wind up sharing a bed with bin Laden when American special forces decided to drop in and pay a visit.


47 posted on 07/09/2011 11:01:35 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: MinorityRepublican
Guardian explained
48 posted on 07/09/2011 11:09:55 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: MinorityRepublican

Oh my gosh, I cant’ even read this, but I will go back and read it and then I will know how truly demented this man, Lindh Pere, is.

These people raised this kid with NO VALUES and thought it was hunky dory when he became a jihadi.

Insofar as I’m concerned they should throw the father right in the cell with him, to YES, do the TIME.

Isn’t the father a homosexual who left his family? And he thinks there’s no rift with his son?

Or is that some other convert jihadi I’m thinking of?

I love how he tell his son I think you’ve always been a Muslim. Really? Really?!?! I doubt this man knew one darn thing about Islam.

If my kid ever tells me she’s becoming a Muslim, well that’s not gonna be a good day, let’s put it that way.


49 posted on 07/09/2011 11:16:06 PM PDT by jocon307
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I really wish that Frank Lindh would take a hint: America hates him and his son. He obviously has zero people left in the world who care about him enough to tell him to knock it off and STFU.

Any decent person in his position would have drunk poison by now and left a note of apology to just about everyone on the planet for being world's worst father. I'm sure that all those in Japan who are aware of who Frank Lindh is can't even believe that he's still alive by choice.

I bet the Lindh daughter just can't wait to get married and change her name. Her future in-laws whoever they will be will just be thrilled over the thought of having nationally-loathed Jihad Dad and his gay lover at the wedding with a hundred guests shooting dirty looks at them the whole day. Oh, and just wait until the alcohol starts loosening tongues at the reception.

I'd actually PAY to go to her wedding if her dad shows up and when they get to the part where "Who so objects to this man and woman bonding in holy matrimony, speak now or forever hold his peace", I'd shout from the back of the room 'LooLooLooLooLooLooLoo!' like an Arab with a reception dinner tablecloth wrapped around my head like a turban.

Poor girl is probably going to get left at the altar a few times, I expect. Oh thanks Jihad Dad for ruining everyone's lives in this family.

50 posted on 07/09/2011 11:17:29 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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