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Bob Woodward: World Doesn't See America As 'The Grown-up Nation' Anymore
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Posted on 07/10/2011 7:36:55 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Bob Woodward: World Doesn't See America As 'The Grown-up Nation' Anymore By Noel Sheppard Created 07/10/2011 - 12:48am

Bob Woodward thinks the world doesn't hold the United States in very high regard anymore.

Appearing on the syndicated "Chris Matthews Show" this weekend, the Washington Post's most recognizable journalist said, "I’m not sure the United States has been looked at as the grown-up nation for a long time...You travel around the world a little bit, and, and there’s, there’s not even tough love for the United States" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

BOB WOODWARD, WASHINGTON POST: But on your question about grown-up, I’m not sure the United States has been looked at as the grown-up nation for a long time. I think, I think there’s a lot of negativity out there.

You travel around the world a little bit, and, and there’s, there’s not even tough love for the United States.

In the circles someone like Woodward travels in, is there ever a high regard for America?

Was there respect for this country amongst his peers when he was reporting on Watergate almost 40 years ago?

It really is nothing new that America's journalists hold her in such disregard. They've been doing it for decades.

But not all of them. The Chicago Tribune's Clarence Page wasn't necessarily willing to sell America short alongside Woodward:

CLARENCE PAGE, CHICAGO TRIBUNE: And yet look how calm Wall Street has been. I mean, there, it’s, there’s a sense on Wall Street that there are a lot of theatrics going on here, but that the United States is not going to default.

Indeed.

Maybe one of the greatest measures of the respect the world has for a nation is their willingness to invest in its debt.

With all the financial distress and calamities that have befallen the globe in recent years, America's Treasury paper continues to be the universal safe haven of choice:

Above is a five year chart of our 10-year Treasury note. The vertical axis is interest rate, the horizontal one years.

For those unfamiliar, bonds and notes trade in an inverse relationship to interest rates. This means the lower the rate, the higher the price.

As is plainly evident, since the financial world turned on its ear in 2007, international investors have continually poured more and more money into our debt.

Contrary to Woodward's world view, this means that people with real money - maybe not the folks he hangs out with - do indeed see America as the grown-up.

If they didn't, they'd be piling out of our debt with both hands.

On the other hand, assuming the great-unwashed around the world aren't pleased with America, wasn't the election of Barack Obama going to change all that?

Didn't folks like Matthews and Woodward claim the junior senator from Illinois was going to radically improve our nation's level of respect across the globe?

Not at all surprisingly, this didn't come up during this discussion of the world not seeing America as the grown-up nation anymore.

Must be because that's George W. Bush's fault despite him being out of office for two and a half years.

Forgive me for even mentioning it.


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Such nonsense..........
1 posted on 07/10/2011 7:36:58 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

well there is the man child in the white house.


2 posted on 07/10/2011 7:40:05 AM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why would they, when we elected a child to the Presidency?


3 posted on 07/10/2011 7:40:05 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Sub-Driver

Part of the problem is in caring how we are viewed in the first place.


4 posted on 07/10/2011 7:43:42 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (if there were a little more of me around we'd all be better off.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Bob Woodward: World Doesn't See America As 'The Grown-up Nation' Anymore

Well Bob, that must mean Barry's apology and bowing tour was a dismal failure!

5 posted on 07/10/2011 7:44:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun (When all else fails, Read the Instructions.)
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To: digger48

Ditto: plus Woodward is a senile putz head.


6 posted on 07/10/2011 7:44:27 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Sub-Driver
Can't imagine why. [/sarcasm]


7 posted on 07/10/2011 7:46:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Sub-Driver

We AREN’T!! Most of the people know more about American Idol than anything about government....Plus 48% don’t pay any taxes and have no skin in the game.....America is just an address for them.


8 posted on 07/10/2011 7:46:13 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wait... I thought the world hating us was all Bush’s fault, and the Blue-Lipped Kenyan was going to *change* the worldview towards us...

You mean he *failed* at that *also*?


9 posted on 07/10/2011 7:46:26 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Sub-Driver

its the end result of putting adolesant marxists in charge.....


10 posted on 07/10/2011 7:48:59 AM PDT by sbark
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To: ken21
...well there is the man child in the white house.

Don't forget all the narcissistic liberals looking for their 'inner child'...

11 posted on 07/10/2011 7:49:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if I’m paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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To: Nervous Tick

ALSO, ALSO, ALSO, ALSO, and so on!


12 posted on 07/10/2011 7:50:29 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Ann Archy

Do you really believe the only tax in America is the PERSONAL INCOME TAX?


13 posted on 07/10/2011 7:50:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver

That’s ok Bob, nobody sees you as a grown up journalist.

Liberal stooge.


14 posted on 07/10/2011 7:51:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (SOAK THE GLOBALISTS. Globalists destroy US jobs.)
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To: Sub-Driver

No nation that is run by liberals can be considered “mature.” Ultimately, it ends in catechism, and that is when it when it reaches maturity.


15 posted on 07/10/2011 7:53:33 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sub-Driver

Bob Woodward is reduced to picking scabs. That’s how irrelevant he has become.


16 posted on 07/10/2011 7:55:19 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ken21

I read recently how the US State Dept was in a spat with El Salvador because the US Govt is promoting Gay Marriage there.

We haits only one example, but we have lost our way and the world sees it.


17 posted on 07/10/2011 7:56:13 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s just so crazy. The left relentlessly slanders the United States for decades, then complains when the slander works.


18 posted on 07/10/2011 7:56:29 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Sub-Driver

With an admistration acting like little middle school 12 year olds, why should the world give us any respect? We obviously don’t respect America enough to elect responsible adults to care for her.


19 posted on 07/10/2011 7:58:35 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s childish to go on insane spending sprees and address how to pay for it after the fact. And on and on and on. What has our POTUS done that isn’t childish? His supporters have the same mentality.


20 posted on 07/10/2011 8:03:38 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: muawiyah; Ann Archy

Ann Archy might just not have stated that the 48% she refers to aren’t smart enough to recognize that fact.


21 posted on 07/10/2011 8:05:22 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: Sub-Driver
Such nonsense....

It's really not nonsense.

Remember, after WW2 the rest of the world (outside of the US) was essentially destroyed. All the US had to do was manufacture and produce products. In fact, in the early 1950's the US produced over 50% of the entire world's GDP....that's astounding!

So, after an additional 50 years the rest of the world is catching up....end of story.

22 posted on 07/10/2011 8:10:23 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Sub-Driver

Bob no one gives a flying flip what you think, bud


23 posted on 07/10/2011 8:20:26 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Diogenesis

I truly do not know a man who would allow themselves to look like that, never mind being photographed.


24 posted on 07/10/2011 8:22:39 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for my son in Aghanistan and all the troops!)
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To: Sub-Driver

If that were true, I’d say mission accomplished Bob.

F U Bob Woodward, and that sweaty mare you road in on too, Katherine Graham.


25 posted on 07/10/2011 8:43:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow! What an amazing coincidence! I woke up just this morning wondering what Bob Woodword’s opinion is of the state of our nation and its image overseas.
Then I flushed and the thought suddenly vanished.


26 posted on 07/10/2011 8:49:28 AM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: Sub-Driver

Present Day America like the wimpy teen boy who’s too busy trying to be ‘friends’ with the hot cheerleader, hoping that if he’s ‘friends with her’, kisses her arse and let’s her walk all over him, he’ll one day get into her ‘delicates’.

We have regressed from a man who takes charge to a metro sexual more concerned about their personal appearance.


27 posted on 07/10/2011 8:59:57 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Bob Woodward is reduced to picking scabs. That’s how irrelevant he has become.

Yes, that's true. And if the World doesn't see America as the "Grown-Up Nation" anymore people like Bob Woodward had a lot to do with it. So much of the childish aspects of America emanate from Washington D.C., New York, and Hollywood. That's why we are looked upon as childish.

A "Grown Up Nation" would never have put a buffoon like Obama into the presidency. I'd bet a years salary against the chance in your pocket that Woodward voted for Obama. I'd make the same wager that 90 something percent of Woodward friends, relatives, and colleagues voted for Obama. That's not being grown up.
28 posted on 07/10/2011 9:00:05 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Sub-Driver

wonder why?

29 posted on 07/10/2011 9:02:42 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Sub-Driver

really?

30 posted on 07/10/2011 9:04:11 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Sub-Driver

31 posted on 07/10/2011 9:05:25 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Sub-Driver

This asshole helped create what he now decries.


32 posted on 07/10/2011 9:07:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Ann Archy

America is in psychosis and may never recover. Why should anyone aspire to this?


33 posted on 07/10/2011 9:08:14 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Ann Archy

America is in psychosis and may never recover. Why should anyone aspire to this?


34 posted on 07/10/2011 9:08:34 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

After 50 plus years the world has caught up. The student surpassed the teacher.


35 posted on 07/10/2011 9:11:48 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: muawiyah
FICA doesn't count....they get that back in SPADES for what they pay!!!

I happen to know some of these people that pay NO INCOME TAXES and GET MONEY BACK....THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS of OUR MONEY!!

I Pray you aren't one of these BLOODSUCKERS.

36 posted on 07/10/2011 9:18:12 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: PGR88

I read recently how the US State Dept was in a spat with El Salvador because the US Govt is promoting Gay Marriage there
Promoting gay marriage is part of the USA's foreign policy now. They're even threatening to cut off any nation that doesn't make moves to start supporting it. Think that'll create more enemies than ruining the EU's gravy train with Iraq . . . ?
37 posted on 07/10/2011 9:21:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Sub-Driver
If I thought Bob Woodward was anything other than a parasitic opportunist, I might be interested in what he thinks. If I had any thought of buying any of his books, that would require me being interested in what he has to say. Sorry, Bobby. Doesn't look like you fit into my library around Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Limbaugh, and other great Americans. Let me be clear here Bobby, you are so 1970s and a has been and now are seen by all conservatives as totally irrelevant for this century.
38 posted on 07/10/2011 9:26:46 AM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER thaln a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: Sub-Driver
World Doesn't See America As 'The Grown-up Nation' Anymore

...how could they with this illegal alien infesting the WH who conducts himself like a teenager of the age of a 14 year old...advocates violence by his brothers...the Enosh.

39 posted on 07/10/2011 9:29:47 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: digger48

I spoke to an old friend, this morning, who really follows politics and despises Obama. He’s convinced that once he’s out of office we’ll learn he’s gay.


40 posted on 07/10/2011 9:33:37 AM PDT by surrey
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To: Sub-Driver

The world sees a celebrity, a “pop star”, not a world leader in the WH.


41 posted on 07/10/2011 9:35:40 AM PDT by citizencon
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To: Ann Archy
Turns out that MANY PAY and FEWER GET PAID.

FICA is charged against all wage earners ~ it is paid to those who live long enough who otherwise qualify.

If you never paid FICA you will probably not qualify. If you die you will not qualify.

There are, alas, those who confound Social Security with Supplemental Social Security. SSS is paid out of general revenues. Social Security is paid out of funds received currently ~ although there's a massive multi-trillion dollar overhang where people have paid FAR MORE INTO Social Security than is being taken out.

You aren't one of those people who thinks SSS is paid out of FICA are you?

42 posted on 07/10/2011 9:39:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver
I didn't bother reading the article but the headline is certainly true.

We've got sophomoric adolescent children in government and our culture is epic in its perversion.

43 posted on 07/10/2011 9:44:51 AM PDT by newzjunkey ("cave" it's not just a hole in the hillside)
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To: Sub-Driver; All

its tough to look at the US as a grown up nation when the POTUS is a child...


44 posted on 07/10/2011 9:46:05 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Sub-Driver

Of course we’re “not grown up” We won’t do, vote, or believe anything he wants us to?!!!


45 posted on 07/10/2011 9:49:54 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: Sub-Driver
Mr Woodward had beaten the role he played to death regarding the resignation of President Nixon. Anytime a scandal broke out of major proportions, there was Woodward and throw in Bernstein. As if these men were the ultimate judges on "cover ups".

The world is still a huge place. He should define what section of that world is. This being as half of 'em that criticize the United States have their greedy,itchy, larcenous little paws out, for the good old green back.

Oh, make that last sentence read not half of 'em, but most of 'em.

46 posted on 07/10/2011 10:09:45 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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47 posted on 07/10/2011 10:48:03 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: surrey

We already know that


48 posted on 07/10/2011 11:08:00 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Sub-Driver
Hey Bob, how about investigating Obama/Holder/Geithner?

You might find shit that is magnitudes worse than what Nixon did.

What have you done lately, Bob?

49 posted on 07/10/2011 11:50:15 AM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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