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Not Guilty!
Townhall.com ^ | July 10, 2011 | Ken Connor

Posted on 07/10/2011 8:46:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/10/2011 8:46:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Very good article and I suspect that you will be getting attacked by those who became emotionally invested in this young womans’ guilt. Knowing that someone is guilty and proving it are two vastly different things.


2 posted on 07/10/2011 8:51:58 AM PDT by Grunthor (Support a POTUS candidate but don't get emotionally invested like a liberal.)
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To: Kaslin
Casey Anthony's acquittal of the killing of her precious child, Caylee, has shocked the nation. Many who watched the trial on TV – and who were not constrained from taking into account inadmissible evidence, the punditry of various talking heads, or the overwhelming public sentiment against Ms. Anthony – have been critical of the jury's verdict.

There seems to be a misconception that many in the media are operating under. The premise is, you have had to listen to the talking heads and consider evident not presented to the jury to come to a conclusion the jury was wrong.

That really angers me. The implication is that outside the jury, everyone is a simpleton, unable to think or reason for themselves.

Okay media players, just where do the members of the jury come from? Oh yes from that pool of simpletons you keep denigrating.

What a bunch of collective dumb f--ks we have in our media these days.

3 posted on 07/10/2011 8:53:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: Kaslin

it is a standard that recognizes and upholds the notion that life and liberty should not be deprived without due process of law.

Oh, if only, this standard applied to preborn, helpless babies in their mother’s womb. If only they could have their day in court!


4 posted on 07/10/2011 8:58:47 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: Grunthor

Yes, and proving it to the jury was a tall order.

Because she was such a neglectful mother, we know that she had something to do with her daughter’s death. The whole family dynamic in her family is bizarre. But proving anything to a jury was something the prosecution wasn’t able to do.


5 posted on 07/10/2011 9:04:42 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Kaslin
Gotta say I agree with Ken Connor and Alan Dershowitz. If it were the kind of charge that could be decided by "preponderance of evidence," I'd say "Yes, my guess is that Casey A. is probably a killer; pretty clearly a depraved and worthless sociopath (I deleted a more repellant noun); and quite arguably a demon from hell." But First Degree Murder requires not "preponderance of evidence" or "my best guess." It requires proof. The proof that rotted away with Caylee's body. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

The Biblical standard for the Death Penalty was "two eyewitnesses." They didn't have videotapes and DNA, but they knew about "beyond a reasonable doubt."

Prosecutor's error, going for Murder One. I hate it, but there it is.

The jury system is really the only thing that stands between us and the utmost, crushing tyranny. Surely in these darkening days of the early 21st Century we can see that.

6 posted on 07/10/2011 9:04:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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I have no problem with “trial by jury”, and with accepting the Anthony verdict, for that matter. But one would be kinda brain-numb to look at situations like this and wonder what might be done to make the system better. (Better in the sense of having fewer cases where the guilty go free at the cost of the higher goal of not convicting the innocent).

One thing that occurs to me is how crimes are charged. I don’t know how, but it seems that in the interest of justice for ALL (including the victim) that if evidence does not support a conviction on the highest count (i.e. 1st deg. murder) but does support conviction on a lesser charge, that should be what happens. I don’t disagree with the ban on “double jeopardy”, but my understanding is, Casey cannot now be charge with much of anything stemming from the “same facts”, and that does not seem right.


7 posted on 07/10/2011 9:07:16 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Grunthor
Very good article and I suspect that you will be getting attacked by those who became emotionally invested in this young womans’ guilt. Knowing that someone is guilty and proving it are two vastly different things.

My attitude is to get over it. Yes, I thought she was guilty, but the post acquittal fallout is getting ridiculous. Jurors not wanting their names published due to the risk of becoming a target. Death threats. Vigilante justice.

Get over it people. Really.

TV notables Bill O'Reilly and Nancy Grace.

I find them both insufferable. She asks for a report, then shoots the messenger.

Another shining moment was when she complained about people cashing in on "blood money". What do you think you have been doing for the last three years Nancy?

8 posted on 07/10/2011 9:10:27 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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No one will ever be charged with the child’s death. Regardless of how she died, you and everyone else know her mother and grandparents know what happened.
Yes, the system works and that’s a good thing. But the fact that no one will be help accountable in this life for her death rankles.


9 posted on 07/10/2011 9:14:15 AM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Kaslin

Not guilty and innocent are two very different things.


10 posted on 07/10/2011 9:14:30 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ("We hold it in our power, to begin the world anew")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Gotta say I agree with Ken Connor and Alan Dershowitz.

Just kidding. Agreeing with Dershowitz had to involve some pain. Ouch! (g)

11 posted on 07/10/2011 9:16:04 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Never mind that the poor child put duct tape over her mouth, climbed into three bags and dumped herself into a swamp.
Justice was served, right?


12 posted on 07/10/2011 9:17:17 AM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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Justice was served, right?

I stated that I believed she was guilty. If you feel so strongly, go exact some vigilante justice yourself. I'm not going to prison for this person. You want to? Have at it.

13 posted on 07/10/2011 9:20:04 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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I just hope this smirking, in your face sociopath becomes a pariah like OJ. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see her walk out of jail and flip the nation the bird.


14 posted on 07/10/2011 9:22:25 AM PDT by surrey
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To: Grunthor; Kaslin

i agree. good article, making valid points.
however, a corrupted jury system, serves no one,
but lawyers.

just as our Founder Father’s certainly wanted INFORMED voters.
not people living for generations on government handouts, who need the “D” next to the name, to know who to vote for.

...the Jury system, deliberately gets rid of the most intelligent and knowledgeable jurors. ...if you follow news, you’re gone. if you even know what “jury nullification” means, you’re gone. etc.


15 posted on 07/10/2011 9:23:31 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
I can't resist quoting this from "A Man For All Seasons":

William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

16 posted on 07/10/2011 9:24:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: Kaslin

Weather you agree or disagree, the jury said not guilty.

I would rather see a guilty person go free then convict an innocent person.

That said, she had better not, speed, run a red light, or J-walk.


17 posted on 07/10/2011 9:28:28 AM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very, very interesting.


18 posted on 07/10/2011 9:28:31 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: Mmogamer

When your dog is missing you look for it for a month, when your child is missing you call 9-11 immediately.

To this day I remember my son wandering off in the Grocery store, he hid under a vegetable cart. Those minutes seemed like hours, not being able to breath, the sheer panic I felt. My knees literally buckled when we found him. And that Biotch is in a bar! The jury could not even muster up the stomach to find her negligent???? Something is wrong there!


19 posted on 07/10/2011 9:34:49 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for my son in Aghanistan and all the troops!)
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To: Elendur
just as our Founder Father’s certainly wanted INFORMED voters.

This problem goes beyond juries; it is prevalent in every aspect of life. Our Constitutional Republic depends on a well-informed, educated populace. It is the lifeblood.

Communism depends on dumbed-down subjects; which is what we have now. Point well taken.

20 posted on 07/10/2011 9:36:45 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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