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Salon Fakes Palin, Bachmann Quotes Blaming Obama for Casey Anthony Verdict
Big Journalism ^ | 7/10/11 | Kristinn Taylor and Andrea Shea King

Posted on 07/10/2011 10:58:02 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: trumandogz
It's not a question of satire being "permitted."

We have to be alert to prevent "satire" from being presented to the public as "fact." It is indeed an Alinsky spoiled-brat tactic to use satire for that purpose. IMO.

The example of Esquire -- I think it was -- claims that it was just satire.. No, no. They weren't trying to damage Dr. Corsi at all.

In that manner it is no better than flat-out lies -- for example google "potatoe spelling" and quayle shows up. In this case it is not satire -- it's became the basis for satire -- but it was plain lying by MSM employees, et al.

I actually do recall the day that happened and I recall the initial MSM reports. By my recollection is was the next day that using phonetic spelling became proof that one is stupid -- it is if one is a conservative and one is the VP and a long popular joke is: If President G.W. Bush is assassinated the Secret Service is instructed to immediately shoot the Vice President.

We are defending against an enemy (one of them) who are a bunch of aging psycho spoiled brats and their ideological offspring. Arguable now "the Establishment." As they used to say, "Bring it all down, man."

41 posted on 07/10/2011 2:42:56 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Nachum; kristinn
It's what we expect, from the Enemedia, these days.

They simply make stuff up.

42 posted on 07/10/2011 2:48:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Until Obama, has there ever been, in history, a Traitorous Ruler?)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The Salon piece is clearly marked as being satire.


43 posted on 07/10/2011 2:53:54 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

But who would know ~ have you take a look at their stuff in recent years?


44 posted on 07/10/2011 3:09:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: trumandogz
Yes I know.

I strained mightily above to explain how I feeeeeeeeeeeeeel about how satire is used by 1960s aging psycho spoiled brats and their ideological issue.

Thanks for responding. It's given me a chance to say 1960s aging psycho spoiled brats and their ideological issue again.

Had there been no response I would have not been able to name the enemy once again. I have met the enemy and he is 1960s aging psycho spoiled brats and their ideological issue.

45 posted on 07/10/2011 3:33:01 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: trumandogz

No, the Salon article is not clearly labeled as satire. If it were, there would have been no need for this article to have been written. Alex Pareene implied that some quotes were real when in fact none of them were.


46 posted on 07/10/2011 3:37:11 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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I mentioned 1960s aging psycho spoiled brats and their ideological issue above.

But I forgot that there are biological as well as ideological offspring of 1960s aging psycho spoiled brats .

One is present in the White House.

47 posted on 07/10/2011 4:21:38 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: kristinn
"Because the Casey Anthony story was the only thing that happened in the news today, and because this is ostensibly "a blog about politics," I have rounded up (or possibly invented) the reactions of all the 2012 Republican contenders to the news of Casey Anthony's "not guilty" verdict."

The writer stated that his blog was not necessarily a political blog and goes further and stated that his quotes may have been invented.

It is not the fault of the writer that a reader may not be able to distinguish satire from reality even after being warned.

48 posted on 07/10/2011 4:45:44 PM PDT by trumandogz
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google News Satire when citing Salon

. . . Palin had to cancel on Sudan because of "scheduling issues." She is incredibly busy hanging out at home not conducting a bus tour. Alex Pareene writes about politics for Salon. Email him at apareene@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @pareene More

. . . Alex Pareene writes about politics for Salon. Email him at apareene@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @pareene More: Alex Pareene Gingrich is toast. Pawlenty's sinking. Still no Palin. Could it really come down to Romney v. Bachmann? ...

I found the problem. My error. My browser missed the name change. :)

49 posted on 07/10/2011 4:47:43 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Nachum
The Salon article was Tuesday, Jul 5, 2011 18:50 ET

"Why the strange silence, Mr. President" Sarah Palin

gets about 175 google hits as of this afternoon. How many of those sites make it clear that it is satire? I'm assuming Ms Palin said no such thing. BTW.

How long will it be before what is in that satire article will be "woven into the B.S. fabric" of talking heads and other MSM employees? I think SNL satire was in the fabric the next morning. If not.. then that was satire. :)

50 posted on 07/10/2011 5:13:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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51 posted on 07/10/2011 5:15:42 PM PDT by frankenMonkey (Because he was the son you bore, And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Which ones particularly ‘made their way around the Internet’?


52 posted on 07/10/2011 5:17:37 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: trumandogz

‘Rounded up or possibly invented.’ Pareene wanted to have it both ways. He succeeded. A bunch of people took it for real, running with the bogus quotes to run down Palin and Bachmann. Some, like you, took it as satire. Face it, not everyone is as intelligent and observant as you.


53 posted on 07/10/2011 5:59:45 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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“A bunch of people took it for real...”

“Because the Casey Anthony story was the only thing that happened in the news today, and because this is ostensibly “a blog about politics...”

I am disappointed that a bunch of people failed to pay attention in 8th grade English class and still do not know the definition of the word “ostensibly.”

BTW-Satire is a vital aspect of political commentary in this country and even in nations where there is not freedom of the press.

And yes, good satire is not designed for the intellectually lazy and even worse, some that have the skill set to identify satire, elect to cloak themselves or their political allies as victims of the harsh reality of politics.


54 posted on 07/10/2011 9:43:53 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
RE: "a bunch of people failed to pay attention in 8th grade English class . . . [not] for the intellectually lazy . . . [or worse those who do understand satire but claim to be victims]

Since that little bit of contumely I thought I'd try one more time to 'splain where I stand.

It ain't the satire it's simply how some "cloak" their intent as satire -- the intent is to spread lies and destroy. No one says to end satire or free speech. Why do the Salon employees, Esquire employees, et al. "elect to cloak themselves" with claims of satire?

They should have simply expressed their feeeeeeeeelings of hatred. But that would not have gone "viral." Phony news items do go viral.

Yes, 300 hits ain't viral. But it's only been a few days.

"Why the strange silence, Mr. President?" Palin

The number of google hits have increased to just under 300 (from 175 the day before).

Generally IT APPEARS (emphasis because I did not look at many) that right wingers know it was fake but others either don't know or simply don't care if it's true or not -- it's the tarnishing of the target that counts.

Here is an example

"Once again we see, with our nation in crisis, President Obama stands by and does idly nothing while an injustice is committed here in this glorious nation of ours. It’s almost strange that the president has not yet made one statement on the issue of the death of young Caylee Anthony. Why the strange silence, Mr. President?

"-Sarah Palin

"While reading a blog it was noted that Palin had that that comment on her facebook page. Now keeping your hand in pop, in the moment, current affairs is cool but to throw jabs at the president for not addressing this silly [sh*t] is dumb. Yes the Casey Anthony aftermath shock and outcry is dumb. Like I said yesterday locally you can find people doing the worst [sh*t] that aren’t making it national headlines, get over it .. I’m concern more about those who liked the comment by Palin really. 12,429 people liked it? What could be in their minds? Are people so against the man (Obama) that no one even gave a [beep] about how silly her comment was and the fact that she flipped it on Obama like he should say something? Palin is going to have her loyal followers like Bush did and Obama does, yes some people are truly behind Obama hoping for the best. I’m not upset about that, the fact Palin comment became a story in itself is what throws me off. . . . " [end of excerpt]

Now soon it will be stated over and over by talking heads that she said this while gazing at Russia from her front porch. :)

The way I understand the bigjournalism.com story is that Ms Palin did not say those things. I did not track down her comments of the past few days. I have no idea if she even commented on the trial.

55 posted on 07/11/2011 9:43:32 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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RE: my prior posts about how the Left uses the fine tradition of satire to cloak their perfidies.

The (yet more!) lies about Palin published in Salon as "satire" and the Esquire "satire" both disguised as "news" items, the latter with no efforts to indicate otherwise in the original publication and the former with a silly "yeah some of this may not be true, so what?" type of disclaimer.

The perps knew that "news" would go viral.. while simply expressing their hatred of Gov. Palin and Dr. Corsi would not.

Day one of my googling 175 hits for

"Why the strange silence, Mr. President?" Palin

Day two: 275

Today: 553 hits

As noted above and based upon a small number of sites which I read.. the right wingers know it was "satire" the left could not care less they repeat it as fact.

Again I am going by the bigjournalism.com story's claim that Ms Palin did not say any such thing. The reference to Esquire is their attempts to sabotage Dr. Corsi's book about Obama's birth claims.

56 posted on 07/12/2011 11:58:35 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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