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To: PzLdr

I must have been missinformed.But it still begs to question why the Church leadership did nothing to help the Jews.And how is it that the Pope thinks he can forgive sins,when scripture is plain that only God can forgive sins.


40 posted on 07/11/2011 12:45:00 PM PDT by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: hwkbeer
But it still begs to question why the Church leadership did nothing to help the Jews.

You are misinformed. The Church did help the Jews -- and probably more than the rest of the world combined. She sheltered them, fed them, helped them obtain documents so they could escape. She lodged protests, both public and private, in the defense of Jews. The Catholic Church is the only reason that hundreds of thousands of European Jews survived.

You have been deceived by a stupid, evil myth. Educate yourself.

57 posted on 07/11/2011 1:16:01 PM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: hwkbeer
But it still begs to question why the Church leadership did nothing to help the Jews.

The Pope himself was credited -- by an Israeli diplomat! -- with saving 860,000 Jews. Does that sound like "nothing" to you?

62 posted on 07/11/2011 1:32:39 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: hwkbeer
I must have been missinformed.But it still begs to question why the Church leadership did nothing to help the Jews.

You have bought a vengeful lie. Please become more informed: Pius XII and the Holocaust.

And how is it that the Pope thinks he can forgive sins,when scripture is plain that only God can forgive sins.

Yes, Scripture is very plain regarding the authority given the Church:

From the Old Testament:

Lev 5:5 When a man is guilty in any of these, he shall confess the sin he has committed, and he shall bring his guilt offering to the Lord for the sin which he has committed, a female from the flock, a lamb or a goat, for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for him for his sin.

Note that the offering is made through the priest for the atonement of the sin. God trained His people to later understand their commission. Though the priest did not forgive the sin on behalf of the penitent, he is providing the form for the forgiveness. Authority to forgive came through Christ.

From the New Testament:

Matt 9:6 "But that you may know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins"--he then said to the paralytic --"Rise, take up your bed and go home." And he rose and went home. When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God, who had given such authority to men."

Notice how scripture says that such authority had been given to men. This is significant and is not merely a coincidence. It is acknowledging that this authority from God may reside in man. Later, God fulfills this commission...

John 20:21 Jesus said to them, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."

2 Cor 5:17 Therefore, if any one is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, behold, the new has come. All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. So we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We beseech you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.

James 5:16 Therefore confess you sins to one another…

Matt 18:18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

May God bless you.

65 posted on 07/11/2011 1:44:36 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: hwkbeer
You are correct. The pope cannot forgive sins....that is blasphemy. The pope, and all of those preceding him are in fact anti-Christs. Keep reading and keep the doctrine once delivered to the saints........as you can see there are many adversaries to the true gospel!
77 posted on 07/11/2011 4:24:30 PM PDT by Robulus (Be wary, be vigilant, for your enemy walketh about as a roaring lion.)
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To: hwkbeer

“But it still begs to question why the Church leadership did nothing to help the Jews.”

IN DEFENCE OF PIUS XII & HIS AID TO THE JEWS

By Rabbi David Dalin

Pius XII Saved More Jews than Schindler, says Historian Rabbi David Dalin

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/judaism/dalin.htm


102 posted on 07/12/2011 2:41:02 AM PDT by Mila
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